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Topic: [ANN][POW] 👾Torque👾 - decentralized node list via IPFS & ZeroNet - page 62. (Read 87278 times)

JoenNL

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Activity: 571

Merit: 18

Quote from: StonerStanley on April 04, 2018, 09:53:50 PM

Quote from: SIMPLEMINER1 on April 04, 2018, 07:00:04 PM

Quote from: ArkadiyDeliev on April 04, 2018, 04:29:45 PM

Quote from: Altcner on April 04, 2018, 04:03:24 PM

No offense to the Devs and the coin. It is a good young team and I believe in them.They will do good with this coin
But there are two things fake 1. Network hash-rate 2. Price of the coin ( whoever is pumping ) is a real amateur Undecided

Undecided

Please elaborate on your claims. How is the network hash rate fake?
Pumping isn't done by the team, but we cannot confirm or deny whether some outsider is doing it for their own benefit, but then again, any coin is susceptible to being pumped or dumped by traders.

Leave it arkady this guy is a fool chasing bumblebees thats all.. He is repeating me from month ago .An yeah still an amateur .

SIMPLEMINER1 you are a spammer, in march you posted the same message than Altcner.
By the way it's me who said that i was loving bumblebees. So what ?

Quote from: SIMPLEMINER1 on March 08, 2018, 05:39:15 PM

No offense to the Devs and the coin . Its is a good young team and i believe in them .They will do good with this coin
But there is two things fake 1. Network hash-rate 2. Price of coin ( whoever is pumping ) is a real amateur

Quote from: Altcner on April 04, 2018, 04:03:24 PM

No offense to the Devs and the coin. It is a good young team and I believe in them.They will do good with this coin
But there are two things fake 1. Network hash-rate 2. Price of the coin ( whoever is pumping ) is a real amateur Undecided

Undecided

And you should go back to school.
What comes first? Yes, march, after march we get April.

However this is totally offtopic, its clear that Altcner copy the post from simpleminer1.

JoenNL

member

Activity: 571

Merit: 18

hmm i get stucked at block 101624

What i did;
Updating the wallet to the newest version (placed in the op / github) by replacing it -> stuck at 101624
After i deleted all ( ;blockchain, all files, only not the wallet file) and paste the newest version -> stuck at 101624
Rebooted PC multiply times

However, i also get stucked at 101624 with the previous version i had.

Using the Wallet GUI version.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Hello,

I've sent some XTL (around 22000) to crex24.com via GUI wallet, but now i can't see these transfers via GUI and CLI wallet, but:

1) i can't see my money on crex24
2) i can't see my money in my wallet

What I have to do now? Sad

Sad

I've lost them or what?

No ofcourse you are NOT lost them.. U should see the transaction on your desktop wallet on the page; transactions. If your wallet nog synced it's possible that your wallet did not send the transaction to the blockchain, it will happen when ur wallet is fully synced.
So no worry about losing coins, this is not a banksystem.. We are in cryptoworld..

ArkadiyDeliev

copper member

Activity: 140

Merit: 9

Anarchy

Quote from: Livebetcoin on April 04, 2018, 05:56:05 PM

Can i send my coins from old cli wallet to new gui wallet with a transfer?

No, you can't. Please restore your wallet using the seed. You can find it by typing 'seed' in the CLI.

StonerStanley

sr. member

Activity: 535

Merit: 267

Quote from: SIMPLEMINER1 on April 04, 2018, 07:00:04 PM

Quote from: ArkadiyDeliev on April 04, 2018, 04:29:45 PM

Quote from: Altcner on April 04, 2018, 04:03:24 PM

No offense to the Devs and the coin. It is a good young team and I believe in them.They will do good with this coin
But there are two things fake 1. Network hash-rate 2. Price of the coin ( whoever is pumping ) is a real amateur Undecided

Undecided

Please elaborate on your claims. How is the network hash rate fake?
Pumping isn't done by the team, but we cannot confirm or deny whether some outsider is doing it for their own benefit, but then again, any coin is susceptible to being pumped or dumped by traders.

Leave it arkady this guy is a fool chasing bumblebees thats all.. He is repeating me from month ago .An yeah still an amateur .

SIMPLEMINER1 you are a spammer, in march you posted the same message than Altcner.
By the way it's me who said that i was loving bumblebees. So what ?

Quote from: SIMPLEMINER1 on March 08, 2018, 05:39:15 PM

No offense to the Devs and the coin . Its is a good young team and i believe in them .They will do good with this coin
But there is two things fake 1. Network hash-rate 2. Price of coin ( whoever is pumping ) is a real amateur

Quote from: Altcner on April 04, 2018, 04:03:24 PM

No offense to the Devs and the coin. It is a good young team and I believe in them.They will do good with this coin
But there are two things fake 1. Network hash-rate 2. Price of the coin ( whoever is pumping ) is a real amateur Undecided

Undecided

CCHIC

newbie

Activity: 42

Merit: 0

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 06:07:11 PM

Quote from: Jackand7 on April 04, 2018, 05:42:56 PM

Anyone know what this means?

2018-04-04 22:31:09.136 [P2P5] INFO global src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1426 [1;34m----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 101358
id: <05a2b4262d5c27467f2c47a87bd5f83ea52965e788c97b747f9d75ad118ae47b>
PoW:
difficulty: 361669261[0m
2018-04-04 22:31:09.152 [P2P5] INFO global src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1426 [1;34m----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 101359
id: <741a0045de4b2c27c04bd426319000a4196750e0d7bf9bc3ea272da496f96ccd>
PoW: <7335f6b18436e2a9d0a2ff6702c8024be9136e76a9099a01f3097d0200000000>
difficulty: 368625116[0m
2018-04-04 22:31:09.183 [P2P5] INFO global src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1426 [1;34m----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 101360
id: <39bd087b4dd19d31662c4cb4b82aa3c39aaff0553070f54c6d6be9151d28140b>
PoW: <6ec36051a710aa9b1f21c5d61192a239e0f19876dacbd63a3a106ab202000000>
difficulty: 368235134[0m
2018-04-04 22:31:38.795 [P2P9] INFO global src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl:302 [51.15.160.12:20188 OUT] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 101289 -> 101362 [Your node is 73 blocks (0 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started

now i am having the same problem as you..

any help guys would be appreciated

Will deleting the blockchain help in this case?
What file should I delete?

Andzhig

jr. member

Activity: 184

Merit: 3

In your new version xmr-stak old card 460gtx dont work((. -150h/s In the normal version, everything works itself.

fbastage2

newbie

Activity: 70

Merit: 0

I'm getting a bit lower hashrate on xmrig cpu (2.6.0 no AES-NI) than I am accustomed to getting, about 25% less.

xmrig-nvidia 2.5.2 I am getting roughly the same hashrate, slightly down (about 2% less).

for stellite, be sure to set --variant 1 flag on your miners for the new algo

Quote from: fbastage2 on April 04, 2018, 10:40:33 AM

Quote from: happyleper on April 04, 2018, 10:10:39 AM

I know that Nvidia cards aren't optimal for Cryptonight mining, but I'm finding now that the 1050ti cards I have in my rig now hash about a third slower than they did under the old xmr-stak (they used to be around 300H/s each, and now, neither of them can get much above 200H/s).

I'd be curious to see how xmrig-nvidia holds up. I haven't tried the new algo, so I don't have comparable numbers, but I get about 333 H/s on a 4Gb 1050ti with standard cryptonote on xmrig-nvidia.
(threads: 72, blocks: 24, bfactor: 1, bsleep: 1). with some small amount of overclocking (+300 MHz memory timing, +200 MHz processors), on ubuntu

maybe I can get the benchmark tonight to compare numbers.

https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig-nvidia/releases

SIMPLEMINER1

newbie

Activity: 49

Merit: 0

Quote from: ArkadiyDeliev on April 04, 2018, 04:29:45 PM

Quote from: Altcner on April 04, 2018, 04:03:24 PM

No offense to the Devs and the coin. It is a good young team and I believe in them.They will do good with this coin
But there are two things fake 1. Network hash-rate 2. Price of the coin ( whoever is pumping ) is a real amateur Undecided

Undecided

Please elaborate on your claims. How is the network hash rate fake?
Pumping isn't done by the team, but we cannot confirm or deny whether some outsider is doing it for their own benefit, but then again, any coin is susceptible to being pumped or dumped by traders.

Leave it arkady this guy is a fool chasing bumblebees thats all.. He is repeating me from month ago .An yeah still an amateur .

CCHIC

newbie

Activity: 42

Merit: 0

Quote from: Jackand7 on April 04, 2018, 05:42:56 PM

Anyone know what this means?

2018-04-04 22:31:09.136 [P2P5] INFO global src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1426 [1;34m----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 101358
id: <05a2b4262d5c27467f2c47a87bd5f83ea52965e788c97b747f9d75ad118ae47b>
PoW:
difficulty: 361669261[0m
2018-04-04 22:31:09.152 [P2P5] INFO global src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1426 [1;34m----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 101359
id: <741a0045de4b2c27c04bd426319000a4196750e0d7bf9bc3ea272da496f96ccd>
PoW: <7335f6b18436e2a9d0a2ff6702c8024be9136e76a9099a01f3097d0200000000>
difficulty: 368625116[0m
2018-04-04 22:31:09.183 [P2P5] INFO global src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1426 [1;34m----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 101360
id: <39bd087b4dd19d31662c4cb4b82aa3c39aaff0553070f54c6d6be9151d28140b>
PoW: <6ec36051a710aa9b1f21c5d61192a239e0f19876dacbd63a3a106ab202000000>
difficulty: 368235134[0m
2018-04-04 22:31:38.795 [P2P9] INFO global src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl:302 [51.15.160.12:20188 OUT] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 101289 -> 101362 [Your node is 73 blocks (0 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started

now i am having the same problem as you..

any help guys would be appreciated

Livebetcoin

newbie

Activity: 307

Merit: 0

Can i send my coins from old cli wallet to new gui wallet with a transfer?

Jackand7

newbie

Activity: 17

Merit: 0

Anyone know what this means?

2018-04-04 22:31:09.136 [P2P5] INFO global src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1426 [1;34m----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 101358
id: <05a2b4262d5c27467f2c47a87bd5f83ea52965e788c97b747f9d75ad118ae47b>
PoW:
difficulty: 361669261[0m
2018-04-04 22:31:09.152 [P2P5] INFO global src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1426 [1;34m----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 101359
id: <741a0045de4b2c27c04bd426319000a4196750e0d7bf9bc3ea272da496f96ccd>
PoW: <7335f6b18436e2a9d0a2ff6702c8024be9136e76a9099a01f3097d0200000000>
difficulty: 368625116[0m
2018-04-04 22:31:09.183 [P2P5] INFO global src/cryptonote_core/blockchain.cpp:1426 [1;34m----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 101360
id: <39bd087b4dd19d31662c4cb4b82aa3c39aaff0553070f54c6d6be9151d28140b>
PoW: <6ec36051a710aa9b1f21c5d61192a239e0f19876dacbd63a3a106ab202000000>
difficulty: 368235134[0m
2018-04-04 22:31:38.795 [P2P9] INFO global src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl:302 [51.15.160.12:20188 OUT] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 101289 -> 101362 [Your node is 73 blocks (0 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started

Jackand7

newbie

Activity: 17

Merit: 0

Quote from: ArkadiyDeliev on April 04, 2018, 05:22:45 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: GTR23 on April 04, 2018, 12:31:50 PM

How does it take for the GUI Wallet to sync? Mine says: Creating wallet...Processing blocks...Height#: 0
And not showing any CPU/Network activity whatsoever.

Same here. Version 0.0.5 doesn't open and with the last wallet version 0.0.4 i can't open my existing wallet... always showing Height#: 0 ...
Very frustrating.

Please, open Task Manager and check whether or not stellited.exe is running. It's the daemon. If it's not running, try launching it manually.

Lastest daemon won't get past block 101289.

ArkadiyDeliev

copper member

Activity: 140

Merit: 9

Anarchy

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: GTR23 on April 04, 2018, 12:31:50 PM

How does it take for the GUI Wallet to sync? Mine says: Creating wallet...Processing blocks...Height#: 0
And not showing any CPU/Network activity whatsoever.

Same here. Version 0.0.5 doesn't open and with the last wallet version 0.0.4 i can't open my existing wallet... always showing Height#: 0 ...
Very frustrating.

Please, open Task Manager and check whether or not stellited.exe is running. It's the daemon. If it's not running, try launching it manually.

CCHIC

newbie

Activity: 42

Merit: 0

Quote from: ArkadiyDeliev on April 04, 2018, 04:56:54 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 04:48:54 PM

Quote from: Jackand7 on April 04, 2018, 04:34:36 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 04:00:19 PM

Quote from: Faaa97 on April 04, 2018, 03:39:25 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 02:59:36 PM

Quote from: Faaa97 on April 04, 2018, 02:28:12 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Quote from: aundroid on April 04, 2018, 02:05:30 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 01:20:31 PM

I downloaded the new wallet and restored my old wallet through "seed" 25 words ..
blockchain went so fast but stuck at block 101110 untill now.

any help would be appreciated

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Same here.
Wallet stuck at 101090/101179 (99%)
Wallet is v0.0.5

Maybe someone can help us out ...

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Opened the v004 wallet but now my balance is locked.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: GTR23 on April 04, 2018, 12:31:50 PM

How does it take for the GUI Wallet to sync? Mine says: Creating wallet...Processing blocks...Height#: 0
And not showing any CPU/Network activity whatsoever.

Same here. Version 0.0.5 doesn't open and with the last wallet version 0.0.4 i can't open my existing wallet... always showing Height#: 0 ...
Very frustrating.

Use the cli version. I had this same issue (44 blocks in the future to finish sync) and using stellited.exe and stellite-wallet-cli.exe solved it.
It may be that the daemon packaged with the GUI version is off or somthing.

When trying to open CLI wallet it asks for wallet name... i used the gui one it didn't ask for a name when creating it.

you have it in the /data folder
rename it to something easy to type (include extensions)

i found a .bin file with like 30 characters name copy/paste still says not found
\StelliteGUIWallet\data\wallets

You need to include the entire path with the file name. Or open the .exe in the same directory the file is located.

thank you man it worked but not just yet *sweats*
i am getting this error now

Code:

Error: wallet failed to connect to daemon: http://localhost:20189. Daemon either is not started or wrong port was passed. Please make sure daemon is running or restart the wallet with the correct daemon address.

Open Task Manager and check whether or not stellited.exe is running. It's the daemon. If it's not running, try launching it manually.

I launching it manually. it keeps on getting new block heights but not syncing

SYNCHRONIZATION started
2018-04-04 22:06:13.093 [P2P7] INFO global src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl:302 [93.125.106.79:20188 OUT] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 101110 -> 101335 [Your node is 225 blocks (0 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started
2018-04-04 22:07:38.297 [P2P8] INFO global src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl:302 [82.30.59.140:20188 OUT] Sync data returned a new top block candidate: 101110 -> 101336 [Your node is 226 blocks (0 days) behind]
SYNCHRONIZATION started

ArkadiyDeliev

copper member

Activity: 140

Merit: 9

Anarchy

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 04:48:54 PM

Quote from: Jackand7 on April 04, 2018, 04:34:36 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 04:00:19 PM

Quote from: Faaa97 on April 04, 2018, 03:39:25 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 02:59:36 PM

Quote from: Faaa97 on April 04, 2018, 02:28:12 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Quote from: aundroid on April 04, 2018, 02:05:30 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 01:20:31 PM

I downloaded the new wallet and restored my old wallet through "seed" 25 words ..
blockchain went so fast but stuck at block 101110 untill now.

any help would be appreciated

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Same here.
Wallet stuck at 101090/101179 (99%)
Wallet is v0.0.5

Maybe someone can help us out ...

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Opened the v004 wallet but now my balance is locked.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: GTR23 on April 04, 2018, 12:31:50 PM

How does it take for the GUI Wallet to sync? Mine says: Creating wallet...Processing blocks...Height#: 0
And not showing any CPU/Network activity whatsoever.

Same here. Version 0.0.5 doesn't open and with the last wallet version 0.0.4 i can't open my existing wallet... always showing Height#: 0 ...
Very frustrating.

Use the cli version. I had this same issue (44 blocks in the future to finish sync) and using stellited.exe and stellite-wallet-cli.exe solved it.
It may be that the daemon packaged with the GUI version is off or somthing.

When trying to open CLI wallet it asks for wallet name... i used the gui one it didn't ask for a name when creating it.

you have it in the /data folder
rename it to something easy to type (include extensions)

i found a .bin file with like 30 characters name copy/paste still says not found
\StelliteGUIWallet\data\wallets

You need to include the entire path with the file name. Or open the .exe in the same directory the file is located.

thank you man it worked but not just yet *sweats*
i am getting this error now

Code:

Error: wallet failed to connect to daemon: http://localhost:20189. Daemon either is not started or wrong port was passed. Please make sure daemon is running or restart the wallet with the correct daemon address.

Open Task Manager and check whether or not stellited.exe is running. It's the daemon. If it's not running, try launching it manually.

CCHIC

newbie

Activity: 42

Merit: 0

Quote from: Jackand7 on April 04, 2018, 04:34:36 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 04:00:19 PM

Quote from: Faaa97 on April 04, 2018, 03:39:25 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 02:59:36 PM

Quote from: Faaa97 on April 04, 2018, 02:28:12 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Quote from: aundroid on April 04, 2018, 02:05:30 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 01:20:31 PM

I downloaded the new wallet and restored my old wallet through "seed" 25 words ..
blockchain went so fast but stuck at block 101110 untill now.

any help would be appreciated

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Same here.
Wallet stuck at 101090/101179 (99%)
Wallet is v0.0.5

Maybe someone can help us out ...

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Opened the v004 wallet but now my balance is locked.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: GTR23 on April 04, 2018, 12:31:50 PM

How does it take for the GUI Wallet to sync? Mine says: Creating wallet...Processing blocks...Height#: 0
And not showing any CPU/Network activity whatsoever.

Same here. Version 0.0.5 doesn't open and with the last wallet version 0.0.4 i can't open my existing wallet... always showing Height#: 0 ...
Very frustrating.

Use the cli version. I had this same issue (44 blocks in the future to finish sync) and using stellited.exe and stellite-wallet-cli.exe solved it.
It may be that the daemon packaged with the GUI version is off or somthing.

When trying to open CLI wallet it asks for wallet name... i used the gui one it didn't ask for a name when creating it.

you have it in the /data folder
rename it to something easy to type (include extensions)

i found a .bin file with like 30 characters name copy/paste still says not found
\StelliteGUIWallet\data\wallets

You need to include the entire path with the file name. Or open the .exe in the same directory the file is located.

thank you man it worked but not just yet *sweats*
i am getting this error now

Code:

Error: wallet failed to connect to daemon: http://localhost:20189. Daemon either is not started or wrong port was passed. Please make sure daemon is running or restart the wallet with the correct daemon address.

ArkadiyDeliev

copper member

Activity: 140

Merit: 9

Anarchy

Quote from: nox-spb on April 04, 2018, 03:05:36 PM

CLI wallet daemon NOT synk wot the fuck heppend with this coin? may be need delet wallet data ? were it is?

Which version are you using? We have just undergone a hard fork to regain ASIC and NH resistance. Please download the latest build if an old version is the reason.

amanda89

newbie

Activity: 35

Merit: 0

WTF with network? 5 + MHS? those botnet still haunted this alt. Haven could do much better than yer.......

Jackand7

newbie

Activity: 17

Merit: 0

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 04:00:19 PM

Quote from: Faaa97 on April 04, 2018, 03:39:25 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 02:59:36 PM

Quote from: Faaa97 on April 04, 2018, 02:28:12 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Quote from: aundroid on April 04, 2018, 02:05:30 PM

Quote from: CCHIC on April 04, 2018, 01:20:31 PM

I downloaded the new wallet and restored my old wallet through "seed" 25 words ..
blockchain went so fast but stuck at block 101110 untill now.

any help would be appreciated

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Same here.
Wallet stuck at 101090/101179 (99%)
Wallet is v0.0.5

Maybe someone can help us out ...

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: ?? on ??

Wallet keeps getting stuck at %99

Opened the v004 wallet but now my balance is locked.

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: GTR23 on April 04, 2018, 12:31:50 PM

How does it take for the GUI Wallet to sync? Mine says: Creating wallet...Processing blocks...Height#: 0
And not showing any CPU/Network activity whatsoever.

Same here. Version 0.0.5 doesn't open and with the last wallet version 0.0.4 i can't open my existing wallet... always showing Height#: 0 ...
Very frustrating.

Use the cli version. I had this same issue (44 blocks in the future to finish sync) and using stellited.exe and stellite-wallet-cli.exe solved it.
It may be that the daemon packaged with the GUI version is off or somthing.

When trying to open CLI wallet it asks for wallet name... i used the gui one it didn't ask for a name when creating it.

you have it in the /data folder
rename it to something easy to type (include extensions)

i found a .bin file with like 30 characters name copy/paste still says not found
\StelliteGUIWallet\data\wallets

You need to include the entire path with the file name. Or open the .exe in the same directory the file is located.

ArkadiyDeliev

copper member

Activity: 140

Merit: 9

Anarchy

Quote from: Altcner on April 04, 2018, 04:03:24 PM

No offense to the Devs and the coin. It is a good young team and I believe in them.They will do good with this coin
But there are two things fake 1. Network hash-rate 2. Price of the coin ( whoever is pumping ) is a real amateur Undecided

Undecided

Please elaborate on your claims. How is the network hash rate fake?
Pumping isn't done by the team, but we cannot confirm or deny whether some outsider is doing it for their own benefit, but then again, any coin is susceptible to being pumped or dumped by traders.

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