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Topic: [ANN][POWR][UPDATE] *** POWER LEDGER TOKEN SALE STARTS FRIDAY 8TH SEPTEMBER *** - page 70. (Read 138900 times)

newbie
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But i don't understand how the electrical current get in my home after i bought it with Power Ledger

As I understand it the home with the solar panels has hardware to sell off unused power to neighbors in the same strata (mobile complex, apartment block etc) and those who wish to buy cheap power have connecting hardware/software solution connected to the blockchain.

Its for those who can't afford their own panels, the blockchain handles all the sales / purchases and usage of power.



Example, i'm in the bathroom and would use the hair dryer using the energy i bought using power ledger from a person that live in India, how can i do ?
I think must be an Energy Local Company that bought the energy from the home producers and resell them to the persons.

No.. not that range, the panel owner has to be on the same strata - you can't transmit power across a body of water - jakarta to perth for example.

member
Activity: 392
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But i don't understand how the electrical current get in my home after i bought it with Power Ledger

As I understand it the home with the solar panels has hardware to sell off unused power to neighbors in the same strata (mobile complex, apartment block etc) and those who wish to buy cheap power have connecting hardware/software solution connected to the blockchain.

Its for those who can't afford their own panels, the blockchain handles all the sales / purchases and usage of power.



Example, i'm in the bathroom and would use the hair dryer using the energy i bought using power ledger from a person that live in India, how can i do ?
I think must be an Energy Local Company that bought the energy from the home producers and resell them to the persons.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
Buy Low, Sell at Alpha Centauri
But i don't understand how the electrical current get in my home after i bought it with Power Ledger

Try a little research, and you'll find you first sell 'SparkZ' for POWR.
full member
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But i don't understand how the electrical current get in my home after i bought it with Power Ledger

Everything you need to know can be found in the whitepaper: https://tge.powerledger.io/media/Power-Ledger-Whitepaper-v3.pdf

Takes a little digging, but it's all in there. Happy reading!
newbie
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What is the Economic structure for POWR-tokens?



Q. What is the incentive for investors to keep our tokens after the Token Generation Event?
A. Token holders will have access to the Power Ledger platform. They can potentially use POWR tokens to purchase electricity when the Power Ledger platform becomes available in their area. Token holders can also participate in Asset Germination events by submitting POWR tokens. By keeping hold of POWR tokens you won’t have to buy them on an exchange later if you decide to use the platform. As we on-board more participants there will be a requirement for more POWR tokens either in circulation throughout the eco-system or escrowed in a SmartBond.


AND

Asset Germination Events are defined in our White Paper as:

    ‘the sale or crowdfunding of an autonomous renewable energy asset which allocates ownership and distribution of income’.

In simple language, they are events whereby POWR token holders can purchase a fraction of ownership of a renewable energy asset, be allocated its revenue accordingly to its share of the asset, and even trade their ownership with other POWR holders.

Further information about Asset Germination Events:

    Crowd-fund renewable energy assets on the blockchain
    Contributors will be allocated revenue of the asset based on their proportion of ownership.
    Power Ledger is the first platform to offer the ability to trade ownership of these assets. If a contributor needs immediate liquidity they can sell it through our platform to other buyers.
    An asset may be a solar, wind or battery farm
    Ownership does not have to be inclusive of everyone, a community could have a community-owned asset where only those who live there are eligible to contribute.
    By owning POWR, the Power Ledger Ecosystem token, holders can also access a range of Power Ledger Applications, such as peer-to-peer energy trading in markets Power Ledger is operating in.
    The future energy system will be low-cost, resilient and owned by the people of the world.
    Initial projects will be announced here first when they are open for contributions



POWR is a very good idea, but why to buy POWR-tokens? I cant see any reason why value of the POWR-tokens should grow in the future? Why not just wait if they can build platform and then buy them if needed?


newbie
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But i don't understand how the electrical current get in my home after i bought it with Power Ledger

As I understand it the home with the solar panels has hardware to sell off unused power to neighbors in the same strata (mobile complex, apartment block etc) and those who wish to buy cheap power have connecting hardware/software solution connected to the blockchain.

Its for those who can't afford their own panels, the blockchain handles all the sales / purchases and usage of power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QoWhxjDUvs
member
Activity: 392
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But i don't understand how the electrical current get in my home after i bought it with Power Ledger
full member
Activity: 490
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If POWR was all hype, it would have dropped a lot more than 8%. Alts tanked yesterday because of the Tether hack, but while it's had a small drop, it's still near 10x the ICO price. The PBC folly yesterday is systematic of the PBC BS, not POWR itself. If you have any doubts about its legitimacy just do some digging on Google. POWR is here to stay, and will likely be a top 20 player early next year, if not sooner.
sr. member
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Merit: 251
There are 2 people in the last 10 posts alone who I deem to be fake accounts set up to shill this token..


Also, you joined on November 19th and posted only positive things about POWR on the 19th, 20th and 21st.

Seems a bit suspicious....something is up with this token and all these sock accounts are proving it. It's rotten to the core and will drop off quicker than it rose.

I can't be the only person seeing this? There is no proof regarding the 8 million investment, just some random blogs posting things obviously using PPC.

Why have no Australian news companies picked this up?  It just doesn't feel right at all and shame on people falling for it

Well you're right about one thing: NEVER trust newbies.  That includes you.  You just joined and are 'new to the whole scene' but you point out others that are new and accuse them of creating accounts to shill.  That's some pretty experienced talk for a new guy, don't you think?  Of course you're gonna say you were a reader of this forum for years and just now joined to talk about POWR.  It works the other way around too you know.  YOU are just new here and know exactly what to say to create FUD. 

My guess?  (but you're going to deny it in any way possible): you had a huge bag of POWR, bought at ICO, sold at 8400-8700 and you're hoping to create that much FUD to buy back in with a double bag for the same money.  And it's probably gonna work too (the buying part, the FUD part is too weak).  It will go down (a bit).

NEVER trust newbies. Nice try though.  Wink

newbie
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POWR signed a deal with a Thailand power company, and will announce the news soon!!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPLDvHqUMAAfrET.jpg
full member
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WHEN Power Ledger and Tesla partner-up, we'll be rich overnight:

"Power Ledger has had massive success in both Australian and international markets. Even Elon Musk has approached Power Ledger for information about what they are doing in the energy space. Their success is fast proving that digital energy and the vast applications of blockchain technology is something we should be interested in". -
http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/10/05/power-ledger-the-aussie-company-thats-using-blockchain-to-digitise-energy_a_23233202/
full member
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Landis+Gyr is based in Zug, Switzerland -
They provide the hardware and 'Advanced Grid Analytics' for Power Ledger -
https://www.landisgyr.com
https://twitter.com/PowerLedger_io/status/887188196941074432

sr. member
Activity: 845
Merit: 267
curious to see how hings go in India tomorrow with all their energy problems. One of their biggest problems is energy distribution
newbie
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anyone else notice the price manipulation on power last night.

power was rising steady. the price then dropped from 0.70 to 0.55 in a second, followed by a wave of sell orders around the same price. then a steady climb. and again price got slammed down, steady rise, slammed againa, steady rise, then a steady sell off - due to paniced investors - job done. this all
 happened with volume over 178 million - it does not make sense.

someone or group has been surppressing the price in my opinion, question is who and why.

the other thing i have noticed is that the circulating supply of coins has gone up. about 8 hrs ago it was 349,635,026. now its at 349,949,266, which means powerledger have deffinately been releasing coins into the market, so why around 0.60. could they not wait until the coin had found its top ffs. if anyone can find the circulating supply history it would be interesting to see.

is it in their best interest to keep the price around 0.55 for the powerledger business model to work, get started. would a too higher price hinder thier growth ? ( thats if it was powerledger manipulation ).

if powerledger needs the price to stay in the 50-60 price range then they can easily stop it rising above it. they got another 650,000,000 tokens to go at in reserve.

i know there were rumour's of a pump and dump group going around, maybe they were trying to stop this.

can someone from powerledger give us some answers please
newbie
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I think this company is right on the cusp of a revolution. I hate to put all eggs into one basket - but I already have 5 masternodes (ion, bdtx, 2x xmcc, hc) and a nice bag of OHM, when I stumbled onto POWR I threw a bunch at it at the .39c mark.. glad I did, even on the dip I've come out ahead.... definately a hold from me.
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6H4_59W1oY

https://web.powerledger.io/mediarelease/
full member
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legendary
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I would like to keep hold my token everybody has his own goal but I think this project has potential to grow more bigger in future that is why I will keep support this. I don't think in short time anybody can achieve something from this project. Don't sell this at low price just hodl and enjoy later.
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
There are 2 people in the last 10 posts alone who I deem to be fake accounts set up to shill this token..


Also, you joined on November 19th and posted only positive things about POWR on the 19th, 20th and 21st.

Seems a bit suspicious....something is up with this token and all these sock accounts are proving it. It's rotten to the core and will drop off quicker than it rose.

I can't be the only person seeing this? There is no proof regarding the 8 million investment, just some random blogs posting things obviously using PPC.

Why have no Australian news companies picked this up?  It just doesn't feel right at all and shame on people falling for it
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0

300K each BTC might be in the year 2025. The value of POWR in 2025 might be under 5 Cents. It is just a Token. I am here also since the beginning and I can tell you one Thing. You are comparing Coins with Tokens, LTC is a coin with his own Technology, POWR and the most other PnD are just Tokens which every one can create. You need just 5 minutes, zero skills and you can create a Token. Than put it in a good real life scenario and you can make a nice pump. Just my opinion. I think that over 90% off all Token project will fail and people will losse much money.

It has nothing to do with the fact that I like BTC. I am also investing in other Alts, but only on good TECH not in Tokens.


Economic structure of crypto tokens

When we view crypto tokens akin to stock in a corporation for valuation purposes, we can begin to apply some of the economic characteristics of the latter to the former. For a crypto token holder, the value of the token comes from three primary sources, just like a regular stock:

    Dividends
    Buybacks
    Price appreciation.

Let’s discuss the price appreciation component first. This is present in many crypto tokens, and is driven by adoption (note that this is different from speculative price appreciation). In this case, the entire economic value of the ecosystem is modeled based on economic assumptions, and then divided among the token holders. Many application-specific crypto tokens belong to this category.

Take the example of decentralized storage startup Storj Labs. Its tokens don’t pay any dividends, and there isn’t a concept of buyback. However, if the protocol is widely adopted, the value of Storj tokens is expected to increase.

A simple valuation in this case would be to model the size of the market that Storj can represent and divide it by the total number of tokens in existence.

Some of the more recent projects have a cash-flow component (earned income) in addition to the adoption-based price appreciation. This is similar to corporations making a profit, and using that profit to grow the business via retained earnings. The ‘excess’ profit is then distributed to shareholders in the form of stock buybacks (increase the percentage ownership of each share of the company) and dividends (provide a cash distribution to beneficial owners of each share).

https://www.coindesk.com/framework-valuing-crypto-tokens/


What is the Economic structure for POWR-tokens?



(Offtopic: Can you mention few good TECHs besides BTC?)
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