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Hardly scandalous. In fact, we should be praising them for cutting costs.

And we can start by praising the guy who lives in a trailer in Fly Creek, NY (not Fly Creek, London).

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Tell Patrick that Goober says HEY.
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Some photoshop stupidity from the OP:



That's a big-ass truck (called Belaz if you're wondering).

There is another one:



Can you spot the difference? It's either a rare right-hand-drive model with weird symbols painted on it, or - more likely - they mirror-flipped the image. Now why would they do that?

It's a common technique used by lazy-ass scammers to attempt to obfuscate the origin of a stolen image. If you google the flipped image you're unlikely to get a hit, but the unflipped image yields this:

https://www.xtragate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/gold-mining-finance-xtragate-1.jpg

Am I saying that the coal-coiners are lazy-ass scammers? Not sure. Maybe they're honest-to-God coal-mining blockchain-loving Russians who for some inexplicable reason couldn't post actual photos of their coal mine and instead decided to borrow AND obfuscate some random pictures from the intertubes.

The closest hit on their contact address is this:



Prospekt Stroiteley, 88, Novokuznetsk, Kemerovskaya oblast', Russia

Looks like someone is running a coal mine from their apartment.  

BTW there was another Coal Coin a few years ago:

https://coalcoin.tech/en/



Good afternoon! I do not understand your claims. About the photos. You can see before you draw conclusions not to study the project and did not study the project site, there are all official photos, products, video of the project, on all videocones personally of the Coal Coin team. This is done specifically to remove doubts. Unless, as you say scammers, would be doing that to shoot a video blog and show their faces, I think it's stupid. Again, we say that if you want or you have additional piles for the project you come to us, we will show everything, tell you how and where we work, what production projects will be.

About the office, yes our office is located in a residential building, well, your statements about the apartments are not entirely correct. Since in Russia, namely in the regions of the country. Often companies are located in residential buildings. Again, we have an office on the first floor, and to be precise the entire first floor of this house, and this is 600 square meters. And if again you would have studied the video of the project, you would have looked,

In occasion of extraction! We do not say that we mine coal. We say that we resell coal, buying it from other coal enterprises and subsequently sell it to the countries of Europe in the company with whom we have a contract for the supply of coal. Once again, we did not say that we are mining coal, we are planning to mine, as we are ready to do this and we have experience in the coal industry, for this we are collecting investments to start the development of coal on our own site. In accordance with the contract, contract work.

Why do we collect investment in the coal mine? Because we have contracts for the supply of coal, and we do not have where to buy that volume of coal. which we need under the contract. Due to the large deficit and the high demand for coal at this time. The opening of the cut was a weighted decision, but at the moment the investment in this project. And we limit this together.

We work transparently and openly. Yes, we are somewhere not strong in terms of marketing, in terms of social networks. But we are strong in the real world, in terms of conducting and developing business and opening new projects. We think this is much more important than making good marketing for a product that either does not or does not go, due to the fact that it does not assess the market and the weak in terms of real business and competition. You understand, this is not so simple and there are many nuances, more than at first glance.
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Karkov Andrey is the owner of many companies related to fuel and coal. He is the director of the Coal Coin in his experience of doing business. Andrei Karkov has experience in the transport industry and at the moment he organizes coal supplies to different countries on the basis of our contracts. You must understand that the person involved in the organization of transport, not such a famous and media person as the CEO. Here, fame and relationship are more connected with the transport industry. Just the circle of communication is different and the tasks are different. Of course, the CEO should be better known than the other employees of the company, because he is the face of the company

Tell you what - ask Mr. Karkov to go out to one of those big-ass trucks and take a selfie holding a piece of paper with this message "We are really sorry for using stolen pictures on our website and for using an apartment building as our address". It's Friday morning in Siberia so do it before the end of the day today. I hope your weekend drinking binge hasn't started yet - I wouldn't want to interrupt that. Bonus points if you get us more GPS-tagged timestamped photos of your current mine.
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https://coal-coin.io/static/WP_en.pdf


Reads like you're starting 100% from scratch, eh?

In that vein, I'm starting from scratch the Dyson sphere project to be funded by our ICO selling DysonSphereCoin (DSC).

I understand you did not carefully study the project? we are opening a new cut, all these costs will be, since this is a new piece of land for development. Or do you think that why $ 25 million is not in your pocket. And to purchase assets and special equipment and equip infrastructure for development. Once again, in our work, we invest a lot of resources and forces in security

I bet it's pretty expensive to maintain a security team in the middle of Siberia to protect your land where the coal is located so that rogue forces don't come in the middle of the night and steal all your coal, eh?

It's not as expensive as you think. here it's not about quantity, but about quality

Are you related to Trump? First you alluded to security being expensive, whereupon I echoed your sentiment via satire, then you come with it's not too expensive. Mix signals much?


No, we are not not related to Trump? And why do we need it?
 Tell me, do you think that $ 25 million is expensive for a full-fledged production?
This amount includes not only the same safety and labor protection, and special equipment, fuel, staff salaries, electricity. preparatory work, construction of facilities, extraction costs.
It's all not free, everything is worth its money. And this is called the cost of production, which includes constant and variable costs.
So I assure you that $ 25 million is not much. I repeat, if you have any doubts or questions, you come all in a living and see how and what works and how much it costs.
This is not some kind of bakery is a large manufacturing enterprise.

Dude, we're on the same page. I was alluding to you needing at the very least U$100M to successfully start up a coal strip mining operation.

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Karkov Andrey is the owner of many companies related to fuel and coal. He is the director of the Coal Coin in his experience of doing business. Andrei Karkov has experience in the transport industry and at the moment he organizes coal supplies to different countries on the basis of our contracts. You must understand that the person involved in the organization of transport, not such a famous and media person as the CEO. Here, fame and relationship are more connected with the transport industry. Just the circle of communication is different and the tasks are different. Of course, the CEO should be better known than the other employees of the company, because he is the face of the company

Great, so where are the links that I couldn't find for "Karkov Andrey"?

I guess you're working your way to the replies depicting Photoshopping, eh? We'll wait.
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The only Karkov Andrey I've found on the Net is the CEO of Coal Coin.

Also, no Karkov Artem on the Net except for on Team Coal Coin as head of transportation. Dude's gonna be sittin' for a spell before you ramp up production, eh? Meanwhile, Karkov could practice his transportation skills with this ...


Karkov Andrey is the owner of many companies related to fuel and coal. He is the director of the Coal Coin in his experience of doing business. Andrei Karkov has experience in the transport industry and at the moment he organizes coal supplies to different countries on the basis of our contracts. You must understand that the person involved in the organization of transport, not such a famous and media person as the CEO. Here, fame and relationship are more connected with the transport industry. Just the circle of communication is different and the tasks are different. Of course, the CEO should be better known than the other employees of the company, because he is the face of the company
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Dayum, this token profitability part from the OP is spicy.

"After the transfer of COAL COIN to the exchange, the price will begin to grow rapidly from the $40 mark, as the cost of 1 ton of coal on the market is 50.11 US dollars. This is a guaranteed income for each investor due to the rising cost of COAL COIN."

The SEC would have mad fun with that part.
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https://coal-coin.io/static/WP_en.pdf


Reads like you're starting 100% from scratch, eh?

In that vein, I'm starting from scratch the Dyson sphere project to be funded by our ICO selling DysonSphereCoin (DSC).

I understand you did not carefully study the project? we are opening a new cut, all these costs will be, since this is a new piece of land for development. Or do you think that why $ 25 million is not in your pocket. And to purchase assets and special equipment and equip infrastructure for development. Once again, in our work, we invest a lot of resources and forces in security

I bet it's pretty expensive to maintain a security team in the middle of Siberia to protect your land where the coal is located so that rogue forces don't come in the middle of the night and steal all your coal, eh?

It's not as expensive as you think. here it's not about quantity, but about quality

Are you related to Trump? First you alluded to security being expensive, whereupon I echoed your sentiment via satire, then you come with it's not too expensive. Mix signals much?


No, we are not not related to Trump? And why do we need it?
 Tell me, do you think that $ 25 million is expensive for a full-fledged production?
This amount includes not only the same safety and labor protection, and special equipment, fuel, staff salaries, electricity. preparatory work, construction of facilities, extraction costs.
It's all not free, everything is worth its money. And this is called the cost of production, which includes constant and variable costs.
So I assure you that $ 25 million is not much. I repeat, if you have any doubts or questions, you come all in a living and see how and what works and how much it costs.
This is not some kind of bakery is a large manufacturing enterprise.
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Good job! Good luck team, hope go to the moon soon

I bet you say that in most your posts ... oh wait, you do.

Time for a new Meta thread. Hope you enjoyed your stay, TC, for it's about to come to a fuckin end. HAHAHA

EDIT: As promised: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-this-fucker-before-he-hurts-somebody-urgent-4608601
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my impression is that they are just using the coal project to get something from gullible users here.

No shit! This'll slow them down: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coalcoinio-cic-is-100-a-scam-4608383
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my impression is that they are just using the coal project to get something from gullible users here.
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Goodbye, Z.
Some photoshop stupidity from the OP:
That's a big-ass truck (called Belaz if you're wondering).
Can you spot the difference? It's either a rare right-hand-drive model with weird symbols painted on it, or - more likely - they mirror-flipped the image. Now why would they do that?
Blame the TV station that ran the original images.
The Coalcoin team didn't flip that one, mnb.mn ran those images like that, they just cut out the part showing the image source.

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Dude, fuck the trucks, I'm huntin' for Blue's Clues in the mother lode ...


https://www.coalcoin.io/



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/11176929/Italian-miner-avoids-work-for-35-years-before-retiring-aged-52.html



Nothing gives a crypto-base entity more cred than having their Serbian coal mine Photoshopped from an Italian coal mine, gleaned from an article showcasing a retired Italian miner.

Penning the Scam section thread in 5 ..... 4 .... 3 ...
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этo чтo? дaжe нe гyглитcя . Этo фeйк --- Peшeниeм coвeтa инициaтopoв пpoeктa пpинятo peшeниe o пoлнoй пepeдaчи aктивoв пpoeктa Donba$$ Coin пpoeктy Coal Coin. Bce зaкyплeнныe тoкeны DC бyдyт oбмeнeны нa тoкeны CC пo кypcy 1:1. (http://www.donbasscoin.info ) мaй 2016.
Этo чтo вooбщe зa мyть! ((https://coalcoin.tech/ru/))

He имeeт к нaм никaкoгo oтнoшeния

a чтo к вaм имeeт oтнoшeниe ?) cкaм?)

нa чтo вы пpoпaгaндиpyeтe yчacтникoв фopyмa, чтo бы пиcaли вaм нa пoчтy пpocтo?))


Ceйчac paбoтaeм нaд caйтoм. Cкopo бyдeт вcя инфopмaция в пoлнoм oбъeмe.

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Quote from: Realvishnya on April 16, 2018, 12:40:29 PM
Quote from: DonbassCoin on April 16, 2018, 12:38:07 PM
Quote from: Lunahod7 on April 16, 2018, 10:58:00 AM
what's this? not even google. This is a fake --- The decision of the project initiators council made a decision on the full transfer of Donba $$ Coin project assets to the Coal Coin project. All purchased DC tokens will be exchanged for CC tokens at a rate of 1: 1. ( http://www.donbasscoin.info ) May 2016.
This is what the hell! (( https://coalcoin.tech/ru/ ))

Has nothing to do with us

but what about you has to do?) scam?)

What do you advocate forum participants, what would you write to the mail just?))


Now we are working on the site. Soon all the information will be in full.

Here's the same dude with coalcoin.tech ...

https://intellcoin.tech/


Coal Coin, Wood Coin, Soil Coin ... I have first dibs on Islands in the Stream Coin (think: kidney stones) and Muskrat Love Coin (think: anal sick with critters).
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Some photoshop stupidity from the OP:



That's a big-ass truck (called Belaz if you're wondering).

There is another one:



Can you spot the difference? It's either a rare right-hand-drive model with weird symbols painted on it, or - more likely - they mirror-flipped the image. Now why would they do that?

It's a common technique used by lazy-ass scammers to attempt to obfuscate the origin of a stolen image. If you google the flipped image you're unlikely to get a hit, but the unflipped image yields this:

https://www.xtragate.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/gold-mining-finance-xtragate-1.jpg

Am I saying that the coal-coiners are lazy-ass scammers? Not sure. Maybe they're honest-to-God coal-mining blockchain-loving Russians who for some inexplicable reason couldn't post actual photos of their coal mine and instead decided to borrow AND obfuscate some random pictures from the intertubes.

The closest hit on their contact address is this:



Prospekt Stroiteley, 88, Novokuznetsk, Kemerovskaya oblast', Russia

Looks like someone is running a coal mine from their apartment.  

BTW there was another Coal Coin a few years ago:

https://coalcoin.tech/en/
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The only Karkov Andrey I've found on the Net is the CEO of Coal Coin.

Also, no Karkov Artem on the Net except for on Team Coal Coin as head of transportation. Dude's gonna be sittin' for a spell before you ramp up production, eh? Meanwhile, Karkov could practice his transportation skills with this ...

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https://coal-coin.io/static/WP_en.pdf


Reads like you're starting 100% from scratch, eh?

In that vein, I'm starting from scratch the Dyson sphere project to be funded by our ICO selling DysonSphereCoin (DSC).

I understand you did not carefully study the project? we are opening a new cut, all these costs will be, since this is a new piece of land for development. Or do you think that why $ 25 million is not in your pocket. And to purchase assets and special equipment and equip infrastructure for development. Once again, in our work, we invest a lot of resources and forces in security

I bet it's pretty expensive to maintain a security team in the middle of Siberia to protect your land where the coal is located so that rogue forces don't come in the middle of the night and steal all your coal, eh?

It's not as expensive as you think. here it's not about quantity, but about quality

Are you related to Trump? First you alluded to security being expensive, whereupon I echoed your sentiment via satire, then you come with it's not too expensive. Mix signals much?
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https://coal-coin.io/static/WP_en.pdf


Reads like you're starting 100% from scratch, eh?

In that vein, I'm starting from scratch the Dyson sphere project to be funded by our ICO selling DysonSphereCoin (DSC).

I understand you did not carefully study the project? we are opening a new cut, all these costs will be, since this is a new piece of land for development. Or do you think that why $ 25 million is not in your pocket. And to purchase assets and special equipment and equip infrastructure for development. Once again, in our work, we invest a lot of resources and forces in security

I bet it's pretty expensive to maintain a security team in the middle of Siberia to protect your land where the coal is located so that rogue forces don't come in the middle of the night and steal all your coal, eh?

It's not as expensive as you think. here it's not about quantity, but about quality
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https://coal-coin.io/static/WP_en.pdf


Reads like you're starting 100% from scratch, eh?

In that vein, I'm starting from scratch the Dyson sphere project to be funded by our ICO selling DysonSphereCoin (DSC).

I understand you did not carefully study the project? we are opening a new cut, all these costs will be, since this is a new piece of land for development. Or do you think that why $ 25 million is not in your pocket. And to purchase assets and special equipment and equip infrastructure for development. Once again, in our work, we invest a lot of resources and forces in security

I bet it's pretty expensive to maintain a security team in the middle of Siberia to protect your land where the coal is located so that rogue forces don't come in the middle of the night and steal all your coal, eh?
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https://coal-coin.io/static/WP_en.pdf


Reads like you're starting 100% from scratch, eh?

In that vein, I'm starting from scratch the Dyson sphere project to be funded by our ICO selling DysonSphereCoin (DSC).

I understand you did not carefully study the project? we are opening a new cut, all these costs will be, since this is a new piece of land for development. Or do you think that why $ 25 million is not in your pocket. And to purchase assets and special equipment and equip infrastructure for development. Once again, in our work, we invest a lot of resources and forces in security
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I'm curious as to why their Twitter page and Team Facebook pages were created on virtually the same day. I'm not sayin' that this is scam, but ... wait for it ... Yep, you guessed it.

Social networks like Twitter and Aacebook are not so popular in Russia. So for team members who didn't have one we created for communication. To do this, we have a video blog to look at us live

https://www.socialbakers.com/statistics/twitter/profiles/russia/


My bad! It didn't dawn on me that noble Russians who use Twitter amassed their followers from outside Russia.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Okay, you got me on the latter part of your post. Yes, a video blog 100% brings cred to a project just like it did for HashCard and Arbitao. Dudes, if you want the community to believe you're the real deal, I suggest your team have their picture taken in front of Big Ben sans scaffolding.

So, you're tying to raise U$2M during your ICO so to commence strip-mining coal on property you may or may not own, eh? U$2M isn't very much money for your intended operation considering said amount would be used maybe to purchase one of these bad boys ...


What about them giant dump trucks you'll need to haul the coal to ... wait for it ... YOUR on-site coal preparation plant?

To be uber-fair, I suggest you reply along  the lines of "we'll get back to you in 24 hours re your concerns" but forget to return, abandoning this forum. That's how you build cred here.


So if there is any doubt, then we suggest you come to us! And we do not need $ 2 million, but $ 25 million. This idea is not from an empty place, we are engaged in it and plan to expand, we have contracts already for the supply of coal to the countries of Europe and Asia. I repeat that anyone has any dreams, then we invite you to Russia, but to Siberia. Live look at this process
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