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@Tempus, thanks, man! @CoinMega It may be inaccurate, but at least it gives a rough idea.

ANS trading:
19800 http://19800.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 550
Daily Volume: 4,328,514

Yuanbao http://yuanbao.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 3,700
Daily Volume: 776,415

Yunbi http://yunbi.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 16,000
Daily Volume: 571,346

Western Exchanges:
Poloniex http://poloniex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 133,500

Bittrex http://bittrex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 64,500

Yobit http://yobit.net.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 32,800

C-CEX  http://c-cex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 28,150

Liqui http://liqui.io.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 520

BTC Exchanges:
Bitfinex http://bitfinex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 19,800

Okcoin CNY http://okcoin.cn.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 15,667

Huobi http://huobi.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 21,500


Also, I have a thought. If the second ICO was limited to China, Onchain would have only raised half and the ICO price would be around 12k to 15k satoshis. However, the token sale was global. It's totally unfair that half of the ICO buyers can't trade at the three Chinese exchanges. Onchain should have waited on token distribution until the Western exchanges can support a ANS wallet that has a Linux version. The price could have held up along the ICO price since the Western altcoin markets trade with BTC price in mind and not their local fiat, CNY.


No mate, they don't even give a rough idea. Alexa ranking is meaningless especially for Chinese sites.

I checked four of my sites:

Site #1:
Actual Daily UVs: 120
Hypestat UVs: 1150

Site #2
Actual Daily UVs: 10000
Hypestat UVs: 5450

Site #3
Actual Daily UVs: 70
Hypestat UVs: 4200

Site #4
Actual UVs: 3000
Hypestat UVs: 600

You can see the difference.

Chinese exchanges might be inflating volumes but HIGHLY INACCURATE metrics like Alexa rankings cannot be used to prove that.
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@Tempus, thanks, man! @CoinMega It may be inaccurate, but at least it gives a rough idea.

ANS trading:
19800 http://19800.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 550
Daily Volume: 4,328,514

Yuanbao http://yuanbao.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 3,700
Daily Volume: 776,415

Yunbi http://yunbi.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 16,000
Daily Volume: 571,346

Western Exchanges:
Poloniex http://poloniex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 133,500

Bittrex http://bittrex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 64,500

Yobit http://yobit.net.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 32,800

C-CEX  http://c-cex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 28,150

Liqui http://liqui.io.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 520

BTC Exchanges:
Bitfinex http://bitfinex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 19,800

Okcoin CNY http://okcoin.cn.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 15,667

Huobi http://huobi.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 21,500


Also, I have a thought. If the second ICO was limited to China, Onchain would have only raised half and the ICO price would be around 12k to 15k satoshis. However, the token sale was global. It's totally unfair that half of the ICO buyers can't trade at the three Chinese exchanges. Onchain should have waited on token distribution until the Western exchanges can support a ANS wallet that has a Linux version. The price could have held up along the ICO price since the Western altcoin markets trade with BTC price in mind and not their local fiat, CNY.


19800 is an exchange with fake volume, it is very obvious, my 5 Chinese friends don't know this site, but they all know yuanbao and yunbi. Altcoin exchanges data looks legit, about Chinese fiat exchanges, due to no fee, they can create fake volume easily. Don't trust the volume there, you see the visitors are same as bitfinex, but volume is 30X of bitfinex, LOL.
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It was written in C# .NET, hence mostly in Windows. I hear that it will take additional lines of code for C++ and also I hear they just included another Chinese dev who will code in Ruby.

Ruby is being written by yunbi.com.
Python version is being written.

Don't worry about the price.
legendary
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Also, I have a thought. If the second ICO was limited to China, Onchain would have only raised half and the ICO price would be around 12k to 15k satoshis. However, the token sale was global. It's totally unfair that half of the ICO buyers can't trade at the three Chinese exchanges. Onchain should have waited on token distribution until the Western exchanges can support a ANS wallet that has a Linux version. The price could have held up along the ICO price since the Western altcoin markets trade with BTC price in mind and not their local fiat, CNY.


I agree! The combination of chinese and western exchanges would have helped the price a lot, while on more or less small chinese exchanges it just needs a few dumpers (ICO of 2015) to get it into a downward-dynamic.

But, to be fair: Even with this shitty price I don't regret buying into the ICO. Because I doubt I would get it cheaper when it will hit western exchanges. Only way would be to make an account on Yunbi but since withdrawals are not possible and one would have to buy CNY first - not sure how many do that.
legendary
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It was written in C# .NET, hence mostly in Windows. I hear that it will take additional lines of code for C++ and also I hear they just included another Chinese dev who will code in Ruby. But hey at least most code are original.
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Activity: 364
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move that crypto
@Tempus, thanks, man! @CoinMega It may be inaccurate, but at least it gives a rough idea.

ANS trading:
19800 http://19800.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 550
Daily Volume: 4,328,514

Yuanbao http://yuanbao.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 3,700
Daily Volume: 776,415

Yunbi http://yunbi.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 16,000
Daily Volume: 571,346

Western Exchanges:
Poloniex http://poloniex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 133,500

Bittrex http://bittrex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 64,500

Yobit http://yobit.net.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 32,800

C-CEX  http://c-cex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 28,150

Liqui http://liqui.io.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 520

BTC Exchanges:
Bitfinex http://bitfinex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 19,800

Okcoin CNY http://okcoin.cn.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 15,667

Huobi http://huobi.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 21,500


Also, I have a thought. If the second ICO was limited to China, Onchain would have only raised half and the ICO price would be around 12k to 15k satoshis. However, the token sale was global. It's totally unfair that half of the ICO buyers can't trade at the three Chinese exchanges. Onchain should have waited on token distribution until the Western exchanges can support a ANS wallet that has a Linux version. The price could have held up along the ICO price since the Western altcoin markets trade with BTC price in mind and not their local fiat, CNY.


Very strange that this launched without linux wallet, seeing how majority of exchange servers are running linux.

Usually it's the other way around, where project launches with linux wallet but no windows wallet for months.

Why pay $$$ to USA corporation for using closed-source operating system, when you could use a open source linux distro for free?
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1007
@Tempus, thanks, man! @CoinMega It may be inaccurate, but at least it gives a rough idea.

ANS trading:
19800 http://19800.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 550
Daily Volume: 4,328,514

Yuanbao http://yuanbao.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 3,700
Daily Volume: 776,415

Yunbi http://yunbi.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 16,000
Daily Volume: 571,346

Western Exchanges:
Poloniex http://poloniex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 133,500

Bittrex http://bittrex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 64,500

Yobit http://yobit.net.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 32,800

C-CEX  http://c-cex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 28,150

Liqui http://liqui.io.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 520

BTC Exchanges:
Bitfinex http://bitfinex.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 19,800

Okcoin CNY http://okcoin.cn.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 15,667

Huobi http://huobi.com.hypestat.com/
Daily Unique Visitors: 21,500


Also, I have a thought. If the second ICO was limited to China, Onchain would have only raised half and the ICO price would be around 12k to 15k satoshis. However, the token sale was global. It's totally unfair that half of the ICO buyers can't trade at the three Chinese exchanges. Onchain should have waited on token distribution until the Western exchanges can support a ANS wallet that has a Linux version. The price could have held up along the ICO price since the Western altcoin markets trade with BTC price in mind and not their local fiat, CNY.
legendary
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I heard from QQ groups, 0.26CNY was the first ICO price, so it looks like 0.52CNY is the strongest support level. Probably best to buy from there.

That was the 1st phase ICO price the 2nd phase have a 0.0003 ICO price some have said it was over bought.

Definitely overbought, the price tells everything. Also phase 1 ico btc was 300-400 usd, their fiat value is only 0.2-0.3 CNY, so they can dump for double profit.

That's not the problem in my opinion. It's more that those chinese exchanges are not so big like they may seem. I believe that's true for chinese exchanges in general because there is very often a discrepancy between high volume and Site clicks.

Just one example: The biggest chinese Bitcoin-exchanges often have a volume of > 1 million Bitcoins per day. But if we look here:

"huobi.com receives about 21,500 unique visitors and 66,650 (3.10 per visitor) page views per day"
http://huobi.com.hypestat.com

okcoin.com receives about 9,849 unique visitors and 48,261 (4.90 per visitor) page views per day


Bittrex has a volume of just 2,019 BTC for the last 24 hours, but:

bittrex.com receives about 64,500 unique visitors and 233,490 (3.62 per visitor) page views per day



And when we look at the both exchanges ANS is available right now in China:

yunbi.com receives about 1,335 unique visitors and 5,739 (4.30 per visitor) page views per day

yuanbao.com receives about 3,250 unique visitors and 15,600 (4.80 per visitor) page views per day
 


And that is really not much. Most likely nearly everybody who is on there is already invested. And those who bought into the 2015-ICO dump into "near-to-zero-demand".


Which exchange is the best place in Crypto for now? The answer is Poloniex:

poloniex.com receives about 133,500 unique visitors and 809,010 (6.06 per visitor) page views per day

Poloniex is by far the biggest exchange in general. It is in fact bigger than all big Bitcoin-exchanges.



But, there is also a big pro in this: The price right now doesn't say anything about Antshares potential. Over time, and I hope soon, it will hit other exchanges and more people will know about it, especially whenever there are more good news etc. That's why I don't see the price as a problem right now and it wouldn't need much to get it back to ICO-value.  

Really smart idea to look at unique visitors and page views to try to see which exchanges are faking their trade volume.

I always suspect Yobit of faking volume

Yobit:
1177 BTC daily trade volume

yobit.net receives about 32,800 unique visitors and 205,984 (6.28 per visitor) page views per day

I'm surprised to see the yobit numbers from hypestat.com are higher than huobi and okcoin

Those third-party analytics tool don't mean anything.
99% of them estimate visitors based on Alexa rankings and alexa rankings are highly inaccurate.

Yobit might be getting way more visitors than that or maybe less than that, nobody can tell other than their support.

Could be right, at least that those rankings don't work for china.

But it would match with the fact that there is not much action for Antshares on both chinese exchanges. There are long times in between without any trade. If you compare that with a launch of any project after it's ICO on Poloniex - the difference is huge.
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I heard from QQ groups, 0.26CNY was the first ICO price, so it looks like 0.52CNY is the strongest support level. Probably best to buy from there.

That was the 1st phase ICO price the 2nd phase have a 0.0003 ICO price some have said it was over bought.

Definitely overbought, the price tells everything. Also phase 1 ico btc was 300-400 usd, their fiat value is only 0.2-0.3 CNY, so they can dump for double profit.

That's not the problem in my opinion. It's more that those chinese exchanges are not so big like they may seem. I believe that's true for chinese exchanges in general because there is very often a discrepancy between high volume and Site clicks.

Just one example: The biggest chinese Bitcoin-exchanges often have a volume of > 1 million Bitcoins per day. But if we look here:

"huobi.com receives about 21,500 unique visitors and 66,650 (3.10 per visitor) page views per day"
http://huobi.com.hypestat.com

okcoin.com receives about 9,849 unique visitors and 48,261 (4.90 per visitor) page views per day


Bittrex has a volume of just 2,019 BTC for the last 24 hours, but:

bittrex.com receives about 64,500 unique visitors and 233,490 (3.62 per visitor) page views per day



And when we look at the both exchanges ANS is available right now in China:

yunbi.com receives about 1,335 unique visitors and 5,739 (4.30 per visitor) page views per day

yuanbao.com receives about 3,250 unique visitors and 15,600 (4.80 per visitor) page views per day
 


And that is really not much. Most likely nearly everybody who is on there is already invested. And those who bought into the 2015-ICO dump into "near-to-zero-demand".


Which exchange is the best place in Crypto for now? The answer is Poloniex:

poloniex.com receives about 133,500 unique visitors and 809,010 (6.06 per visitor) page views per day

Poloniex is by far the biggest exchange in general. It is in fact bigger than all big Bitcoin-exchanges.



But, there is also a big pro in this: The price right now doesn't say anything about Antshares potential. Over time, and I hope soon, it will hit other exchanges and more people will know about it, especially whenever there are more good news etc. That's why I don't see the price as a problem right now and it wouldn't need much to get it back to ICO-value.  

Really smart idea to look at unique visitors and page views to try to see which exchanges are faking their trade volume.

I always suspect Yobit of faking volume

Yobit:
1177 BTC daily trade volume

yobit.net receives about 32,800 unique visitors and 205,984 (6.28 per visitor) page views per day

I'm surprised to see the yobit numbers from hypestat.com are higher than huobi and okcoin

Those third-party analytics tools don't mean anything.
99% of them estimate visitors based on Alexa rankings and alexa rankings are highly inaccurate.

Yobit might be getting way more visitors than that or maybe less than that, nobody can tell other than their support.
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Definitely oversold
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I heard from QQ groups, 0.26CNY was the first ICO price, so it looks like 0.52CNY is the strongest support level. Probably best to buy from there.

That was the 1st phase ICO price the 2nd phase have a 0.0003 ICO price some have said it was over bought.

Definitely overbought, the price tells everything. Also phase 1 ico btc was 300-400 usd, their fiat value is only 0.2-0.3 CNY, so they can dump for double profit.

it isnt overbought its oversold right now since antshares team has more money in the bank than the capitalization of antshares. how did you figure this out? if they have 10mil in cash how come its worth 4mln? ;/
legendary
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I heard from QQ groups, 0.26CNY was the first ICO price, so it looks like 0.52CNY is the strongest support level. Probably best to buy from there.

That was the 1st phase ICO price the 2nd phase have a 0.0003 ICO price some have said it was over bought.

Definitely overbought, the price tells everything. Also phase 1 ico btc was 300-400 usd, their fiat value is only 0.2-0.3 CNY, so they can dump for double profit.

That's not the problem in my opinion. It's more that those chinese exchanges are not so big like they may seem. I believe that's true for chinese exchanges in general because there is very often a discrepancy between high volume and Site clicks.

Just one example: The biggest chinese Bitcoin-exchanges often have a volume of > 1 million Bitcoins per day. But if we look here:

"huobi.com receives about 21,500 unique visitors and 66,650 (3.10 per visitor) page views per day"
http://huobi.com.hypestat.com

okcoin.com receives about 9,849 unique visitors and 48,261 (4.90 per visitor) page views per day


Bittrex has a volume of just 2,019 BTC for the last 24 hours, but:

bittrex.com receives about 64,500 unique visitors and 233,490 (3.62 per visitor) page views per day



And when we look at the both exchanges ANS is available right now in China:

yunbi.com receives about 1,335 unique visitors and 5,739 (4.30 per visitor) page views per day

yuanbao.com receives about 3,250 unique visitors and 15,600 (4.80 per visitor) page views per day
 


And that is really not much. Most likely nearly everybody who is on there is already invested. And those who bought into the 2015-ICO dump into "near-to-zero-demand".


Which exchange is the best place in Crypto for now? The answer is Poloniex:

poloniex.com receives about 133,500 unique visitors and 809,010 (6.06 per visitor) page views per day

Poloniex is by far the biggest exchange in general. It is in fact bigger than all big Bitcoin-exchanges.



But, there is also a big pro in this: The price right now doesn't say anything about Antshares potential. Over time, and I hope soon, it will hit other exchanges and more people will know about it, especially whenever there are more good news etc. That's why I don't see the price as a problem right now and it wouldn't need much to get it back to ICO-value.  

Really smart idea to look at unique visitors and page views to try to see which exchanges are faking their trade volume.

I always suspect Yobit of faking volume

Yobit:
1177 BTC daily trade volume

yobit.net receives about 32,800 unique visitors and 205,984 (6.28 per visitor) page views per day

I'm surprised to see the yobit numbers from hypestat.com are higher than huobi and okcoin

I'm not sure if they fake the volume but because of the zero fee and, if that's still the case, that chinese exchanges often count one trade as "two" in volume (one buy and one sell) the volumes are misleading in my opinion.
sr. member
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move that crypto
I heard from QQ groups, 0.26CNY was the first ICO price, so it looks like 0.52CNY is the strongest support level. Probably best to buy from there.

That was the 1st phase ICO price the 2nd phase have a 0.0003 ICO price some have said it was over bought.

Definitely overbought, the price tells everything. Also phase 1 ico btc was 300-400 usd, their fiat value is only 0.2-0.3 CNY, so they can dump for double profit.

That's not the problem in my opinion. It's more that those chinese exchanges are not so big like they may seem. I believe that's true for chinese exchanges in general because there is very often a discrepancy between high volume and Site clicks.

Just one example: The biggest chinese Bitcoin-exchanges often have a volume of > 1 million Bitcoins per day. But if we look here:

"huobi.com receives about 21,500 unique visitors and 66,650 (3.10 per visitor) page views per day"
http://huobi.com.hypestat.com

okcoin.com receives about 9,849 unique visitors and 48,261 (4.90 per visitor) page views per day


Bittrex has a volume of just 2,019 BTC for the last 24 hours, but:

bittrex.com receives about 64,500 unique visitors and 233,490 (3.62 per visitor) page views per day



And when we look at the both exchanges ANS is available right now in China:

yunbi.com receives about 1,335 unique visitors and 5,739 (4.30 per visitor) page views per day

yuanbao.com receives about 3,250 unique visitors and 15,600 (4.80 per visitor) page views per day
 


And that is really not much. Most likely nearly everybody who is on there is already invested. And those who bought into the 2015-ICO dump into "near-to-zero-demand".


Which exchange is the best place in Crypto for now? The answer is Poloniex:

poloniex.com receives about 133,500 unique visitors and 809,010 (6.06 per visitor) page views per day

Poloniex is by far the biggest exchange in general. It is in fact bigger than all big Bitcoin-exchanges.



But, there is also a big pro in this: The price right now doesn't say anything about Antshares potential. Over time, and I hope soon, it will hit other exchanges and more people will know about it, especially whenever there are more good news etc. That's why I don't see the price as a problem right now and it wouldn't need much to get it back to ICO-value.  

Really smart idea to look at unique visitors and page views to try to see which exchanges are faking their trade volume.

I always suspect Yobit of faking volume

Yobit:
1177 BTC daily trade volume

yobit.net receives about 32,800 unique visitors and 205,984 (6.28 per visitor) page views per day

I'm surprised to see the yobit numbers from hypestat.com are higher than huobi and okcoin
legendary
Activity: 1960
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I heard from QQ groups, 0.26CNY was the first ICO price, so it looks like 0.52CNY is the strongest support level. Probably best to buy from there.

That was the 1st phase ICO price the 2nd phase have a 0.0003 ICO price some have said it was over bought.

Definitely overbought, the price tells everything. Also phase 1 ico btc was 300-400 usd, their fiat value is only 0.2-0.3 CNY, so they can dump for double profit.

That's not the problem in my opinion. It's more that those chinese exchanges are not so big like they may seem. I believe that's true for chinese exchanges in general because there is very often a discrepancy between high volume and Site clicks.

Just one example: The biggest chinese Bitcoin-exchanges often have a volume of > 1 million Bitcoins per day. But if we look here:

"huobi.com receives about 21,500 unique visitors and 66,650 (3.10 per visitor) page views per day"
http://huobi.com.hypestat.com

okcoin.com receives about 9,849 unique visitors and 48,261 (4.90 per visitor) page views per day


Bittrex has a volume of just 2,019 BTC for the last 24 hours, but:

bittrex.com receives about 64,500 unique visitors and 233,490 (3.62 per visitor) page views per day



And when we look at the both exchanges ANS is available right now in China:

yunbi.com receives about 1,335 unique visitors and 5,739 (4.30 per visitor) page views per day

yuanbao.com receives about 3,250 unique visitors and 15,600 (4.80 per visitor) page views per day
 


And that is really not much. Most likely nearly everybody who is on there is already invested. And those who bought into the 2015-ICO dump into "near-to-zero-demand".


Which exchange is the best place in Crypto for now? The answer is Poloniex:

poloniex.com receives about 133,500 unique visitors and 809,010 (6.06 per visitor) page views per day

Poloniex is by far the biggest exchange in general. It is in fact bigger than all big Bitcoin-exchanges.



But, there is also a big pro in this: The price right now doesn't say anything about Antshares potential. Over time, and I hope soon, it will hit other exchanges and more people will know about it, especially whenever there are more good news etc. That's why I don't see the price as a problem right now and it wouldn't need much to get it back to ICO-value.  
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Every fundamental is good with Antshares. Let weak hands exit.
I wonder what kind of miracles 7000 investors wait for, after only a few days and exotic exchanges.

Other coins have no partners like Alibaba and Microsoft. Synereo went X100 in a year time and expressed less potential at the beginning.

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I also feel ANS is a long time investment.No one who wants to make good profit should sell it.Hold it at least till 2017
yes many coin is for long investment look at ETH DASH, but not many people is in pantient to wait for long time investment many people just thingking about profit in short time we can't blame their way, but i agree with you ANS is for long investment

some coins are never going up again, its all about the devs. they have to deliver.

if you have coins from the 1st ICO, like me you, could tripple your money, but as i bought also in the 2nd ICO, i am waiting and holding.
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I also feel ANS is a long time investment.No one who wants to make good profit should sell it.Hold it at least till 2017
yes many coin is for long investment look at ETH DASH, but not many people is in pantient to wait for long time investment many people just thingking about profit in short time we can't blame their way, but i agree with you ANS is for long investment
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I heard from QQ groups, 0.26CNY was the first ICO price, so it looks like 0.52CNY is the strongest support level. Probably best to buy from there.

That was the 1st phase ICO price the 2nd phase have a 0.0003 ICO price some have said it was over bought.

Definitely overbought, the price tells everything. Also phase 1 ico btc was 300-400 usd, their fiat value is only 0.2-0.3 CNY, so they can dump for double profit.
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I also feel ANS is a long time investment.No one who wants to make good profit should sell it.Hold it at least till 2017
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