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Topic: [ANN]*SITE UP* FrozenBit Multisignature & Multiplatform Secure Bitcoin Wallets - page 2. (Read 7608 times)

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I see you avoid addressing the questions  Shocked Shocked Shocked

 It appears GreenAddress is attempting to run a scam, or just using children tactics.


It appears FrozenBit has been brought into this mix somehow. I have greater assumptions of why this is, mostly because greenaddress is pointing fingers.

If this is about what was on the front page of reddit yesterday which I've been messaged about I never clicked on that link and didn't know in detail what it was about. If you respond to bad criticism by feeding the troll you're just hurting yourself. Don't point fingers, instead address it which I haven't seen you do. However, I can assure you we are NOT behind this.

 Anyway I invite you to read about our service http://frozenbit.io, and wait for launch. Since we're both multisig I don't see what you're complaining for. Multisig is about awareness. All of my talks with https://www.BitGo.com have been about spreading awareness not crying when someone comes into the mix who does things a little different. I think you could learn some things from that playbook.

 Anyway the Gist is, don't point fingers and address what this guy is saying. It's not that hard is it?

 Now you can put your finger down.

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using deceptive buissness practices - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7587965

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using peddlers to hide that on reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/


 However, lawrence appears to be trolling, must not feed trolls.

EDIT: It doesn't matter if they're affiliated with FrozenBit or not. It's a matter of their opinion on what they see above, if you can't take criticism you're in the wrong business.

 To answer your questions

1.) Is that a question?

2.) Is that a question?

3.) Ok

4.) No, I just see this as something people just aren't doing. It's much easier to just let users control all their keys instead of lying to them.



Your more fake than your reddit accounts : http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/
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I see you avoid addressing the questions  Shocked Shocked Shocked
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 I think that quote about sums this guys post up.  Roll Eyes

http://gyazo.com/9d6c23cdaca1c5ed014ce6750d113f58  < That

Anyway I invite you to read about our service, and wait for launch. Since we're both multisig I don't see what you're complaining for.

 If this is about what was on the front page of reddit yesterday which I've been messaged about I never clicked on that link and didn't know in detail what it was about. If you respond to bad criticism by feeding the troll you're just hurting yourself. Don't point fingers, instead address it which I haven't seen you do.

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using deceptive buissness practices - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7587965

EDIT: Link to Greenaddress using peddlers to that on reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/29fdhu/greenaddress_is_using_peddlers_to_hide_bad/

 However, lawrence appears to be trolling, must not feed trolls.
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Can you:

1) Stop your false advertising (you are not the first multisig nor the first multiplatform) and therefore you are far from being the only one

2) stop trolling or clarify that this has nothing to do with Frozenbit people reddit&bitcointalk   Your posts and imgur in case you delete your account.

3) Open source your code so that people can verify your security claims

4) Assuming your service is decentralized as you claim, what is the point of having a registration process and centralized domain name or two centralized domain names? should it not be enough to just have the open source software?


That's it, thanks folks!

edit: questioning (4) the decentralized nature of the product.
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Great news coming soon! Trust me, it's good news.

 

(ooooo he's being mysterious) *this is your only hint*



(I wonder what it is?)

[Clicks send private message] {Dear calvin } | { can I know what this news is please?},

Typing reply...............


 NO

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we all know chris is frozenbit.. its not even worth him logging into his different usernames anymore..

but please people do not sign up to frozenbit using emails and passwords that are previously used!!!

make a fresh password especially for frozenbit.

and i do not need to explain why, as it should be standard security.
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3K1TM1inoZXaRMiAHcBJqZbxeweHgZEcGL

What is this address starting with a 3? I don't think I can remember seeing a bitcoin address starting with anything but a '1'.

 That's a Multisignature address, that's what our service is offering to anyone who signs up.

 Multisignature address are address in which multiple people can secure funds trustless, and solo actors can enchance security of funds. The basic protocol is confusing, but still it involves entering 3 PUBLIC keys (assume 2 of 3) this creates an address. These public keys DO NOT have to belong to the same person, the private keys do not have to be on the same computer and you do not have to be online.

 That is the basic creation, to spend you do createtx on a site like coinb.in you enter the PRIVATE key of the address you got the PUBLIC key from. AND you export for signatures Cheesy That's the basics of multisig.

 Note this is a rough summary
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What is this address starting with a 3? I don't think I can remember seeing a bitcoin address starting with anything but a '1'.
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 Backup domain has been established.

 frozenb.it

 check it out, and incase something happens to the first one. This one is able to kick into action.
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hiding technicals... vs open source

which is it?

Explain Like I'm Five

 I didn't realize a site HAD to be technical Smiley

 Also I'm not sure how many apps you've developed but it requires code to do. Code means technicals, now code can be used in nice ways to make nice things that hide what that code is doing. This means things like facebook can be made without 1970's internet protocol being displayed.
 
 Thus we have a fork in the road, on one side we have gox where code is hidden, and the other we have open-source paradise. Where the code is hidden on site, but not hidden from anyone who want's to use it. Simply people don't want things that look like their in the 80's they want intuitive, innovate and usable platforms. You want bitcoin adoption to spread? That's how you do it.


 So frozenbit is both. See explanation above Smiley

           
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hiding technicals... vs open source

which is it?
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thank you for hearing our suggestions.

eagerly awaiting your release...

 Thank you, I'm sure you'll find alot of features that allow you to better manage and control your coins with us. We've done alot of work on hiding technicals, allowing key management and security for our users. I think everyone who uses bitcoin will get a kick from some of these features.
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thank you for hearing our suggestions.

eagerly awaiting your release...
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you should auto-redirect from http to https.

And why are you asking for a phone number? it should be optional.

 Thanks for catching that, looks like someone forgot to set it up.

 Also we're exploring secure options that could replace SMS, but note one of our features were boasting is 24/7 SMS balance change alerts. I'll see what it comes to though. I just wanted to show our site is done.

google auth  is better and safer than SMS, and keeps your privacy , so SMS only should be available as another type of 2nd factor auth. not a mandatory one.


Edit: I've seen you have removed phone number from sign up form. Nice

 Yeah, we're integrating google authentication but leaving SMS as an option. Thanks for your contribution to the site.
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you should auto-redirect from http to https.

And why are you asking for a phone number? it should be optional.

 Thanks for catching that, looks like someone forgot to set it up.

 Also we're exploring secure options that could replace SMS, but note one of our features were boasting is 24/7 SMS balance change alerts. I'll see what it comes to though. I just wanted to show our site is done.

google auth  is better and safer than SMS, and keeps your privacy , so SMS only should be available as another type of 2nd factor auth. not a mandatory one.


Edit: I've seen you have removed phone number from sign up form. Nice

That's what they must be doing then. The little ice cube is a nice touch too on the tab bar.
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you should auto-redirect from http to https.

And why are you asking for a phone number? it should be optional.

 Thanks for catching that, looks like someone forgot to set it up.

 Also we're exploring secure options that could replace SMS, but note one of our features were boasting is 24/7 SMS balance change alerts. I'll see what it comes to though. I just wanted to show our site is done.

google auth  is better and safer than SMS, and keeps your privacy , so SMS only should be available as another type of 2nd factor auth. not a mandatory one.


Edit: I've seen you have removed phone number from sign up form. Nice
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 Update:
-Site is undergoing first security code reviews
-Github Will soon be created
-Fixed Issue where SSL was not applied to whole site, now it is.
-Site is now being redirected back to post during code reviews.
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you should auto-redirect from http to https.

And why are you asking for a phone number? it should be optional.

 Thanks for catching that, looks like someone forgot to set it up.

 Also we're exploring secure options that could replace SMS, but note one of our features were boasting is 24/7 SMS balance change alerts. I'll see what it comes to though. I just wanted to show our site is done.
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And why are you asking for a phone number? it should be optional.

Yes please, no phone number, thank you.

BTW: I tried to register but nothing happened, just the same screen showed up again with empty fields when i clicked "REGISTER" button... no error message, nothing...


 All features are offline until we get a security audit completed.
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