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Quote from: supercointeam on June 14, 2014, 10:07:37 AM

Agreed most of parts.

960 is theoretical number, we have in reality see about 750-800 blocks found daily... If you notice recent posts you can see alot of new people in the scene, if we cut mining, we will cut potential community members, too. I do not say i am against second hard-fork or future improvements. But it creates extra jobs for us and put SUPER network under some risk. And each time we create extra loads on other exchanges, pools, block explorers, mac wallet updater etc

We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours (if we dont become death tired). it will not be perfect and only at alfa stage. We will soon release beta one with feedbacks collected from you.

It's only 4 days left before reward drop. Well again remember we are here to service you :-)

So relax

Thanks for the clarification & update. That's great to hear that we may get the wallet within next 6 hours! Grin

P.S. I am all for reducing the PoW time further by shorter block halving intervals. As long as it is feasible / secure.

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Quote from: bitcoinwonders010 on June 14, 2014, 10:15:33 AM

yes but even if reward drops, price may go up and were back to square 1. ive expressed my thoughts. i saw how that 60btc buy wall got taken out by multipools dump, so im waiting to buy when they do. coin has potential, but that potential will be limited thanks to multipools

100% PoS coins with zero multipool dumps can have much bigger whale dumps.
Just look at CINNI's chart today. It dropped more than SUPER with no multipool.
(and this happened after an amazing EM wallet release / whitepaper etc)

Quote from: Mrjitter on June 14, 2014, 10:20:07 AM

Multipool drop the price and stop the hype or momentum while the coin was rising.

A whale (or 2 or 3) who pumps & dumps is far worse than any multipool last time I checked.
Also, I already proved how little multipool dumps amounts compared to current trade volume.

I do understand your concerns. But I feel that some people are not very knowledgeable in this matter and think ending PoW will guarantee a price hike. It won't.
People who are spreading negativity (while wanting the opposite of increase in price) are doing more damage to the coin's image & price than any multipool IMHO.

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Quote from: provenceday on June 14, 2014, 10:31:45 AM

Quote from: provenceday on June 14, 2014, 10:16:45 AM

We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours

Grin

look this guys, forget Multipool. Grin

multipool will kill momentum and that quote is yours not dev

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Quote from: provenceday on June 14, 2014, 10:16:45 AM

We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours

Grin

look this guys, forget Multipool. Grin

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Quote from: Mrjitter on June 14, 2014, 10:20:07 AM

Quote from: jakiman on June 14, 2014, 10:18:11 AM

Quote from: Mrjitter on June 14, 2014, 10:02:42 AM

Look at the support buy in bittrex now .. only 6 BTC , multipool has kill the coin

That has nothing to do with multipool.

There has been 246 BTC trade vol in last 24 hours on Bittrex.
That means 246 BTC of coins were "bought" by the traders.

Multipool dumps only contributed 20-30 BTC at most. (that's worst case scenario also)
So how did multipool kill the coin again? Can you please explain with any form of proof?

Multipool drop the price and stop the hype or momentum while the coin was rising.

That's really make sense. hope Community can discuss this after Anon Wallet come out.

it seems our superdev are super buying on Anon Wallet test now.

take it easy guys, Supercoin will reward you sooner or later.

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Quote from: HardwarePal on June 14, 2014, 10:10:59 AM

So 100% POS isnt an issue ?

(100%/365days) = 0.27% of total coins will be extra in POS stakes a day

Not touching this coin

What a shame, I had hopes for supercoin. Without this coin going into pos now it is dead. Releasing an unfinished anon beta test in the middle of pow is insane.

Suggestion

End Pow, make sure is done right and then release your anon wallet. If not is fine I understand but it is risky investment...

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Quote from: jakiman on June 14, 2014, 10:18:11 AM

Quote from: Mrjitter on June 14, 2014, 10:02:42 AM

Look at the support buy in bittrex now .. only 6 BTC , multipool has kill the coin

That has nothing to do with multipool.

There has been 246 BTC trade vol in last 24 hours on Bittrex.
That means 246 BTC of coins were "bought" by the traders.

Multipool dumps only contributed 20-30 BTC at most. (that's worst case scenario also)
So how did multipool kill the coin again? Can you please explain with any form of proof?

Multipool drop the price and stop the hype or momentum while the coin was rising.

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Quote from: Mrjitter on June 14, 2014, 10:02:42 AM

Look at the support buy in bittrex now .. only 6 BTC , multipool has kill the coin

That has nothing to do with multipool.

There has been 246 BTC trade vol in last 24 hours on Bittrex.
That means 246 BTC of coins were "bought" within last 24 hours.

Multipool dumps only contributed 20-30 BTC at most during this time. (worst scenario)
So how did multipool kill the coin again? Can you please explain with any form of proof?

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It seems the super community has expressed a legitimate concern.

I would like to thank provenceday by allowing the super community
to vote on what should be done. (mutlipool dumping, cut coin supply)

with careful consideration & proper planning SUPER has
the potential to do extremely well yet, only time can tell.

its important that investors are heard.

My clients & I are heavily invested in super.

regards
Peer2Peer360 Group

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We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours

Grin

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Quote from: supercointeam on June 14, 2014, 10:07:37 AM

Quote from: jakiman on June 14, 2014, 09:51:14 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Multipool is really dumping Super down hard. Anything we can do to stop this madness?

There are 960 blocks per day that gets mined right now under PoW.
That's 960 x 512 = 491520 coins per day of inflation.
At 5000 sat, that's 25 BTC worth of coins that gets mined per day.
Now let's say multipool is mining 80% of all PoW coins. (worst case scenario)
That's 20 BTC worth of dumps per day.

That's a tiny amount considering the trade volume of 300+ BTC per day.
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps?

In less than 4 days, that will reduce to HALF due to reward halving.
Meaning, either only 10 BTC per day of dumps or 20 BTC if SUPER goes to 10k sat.

So I repeat, that's not a big amount considering the trade volume that we would all like. (100+ BTC min)
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps again?

The only reason price is going down is because:
1. People cashing out BTC due to ghash & FBI etc.
2. Other alts getting bigger pumps currently.
3. Too many people here crying about multipool dumps when it's not that significant.

Instead, tweet more about #supercoin, write positive posts in this thread etc.
We only need few extra investors per day to withstand any multipool dumps. You guys aren't really helping.

Agreed most of parts.

960 is theoretical number, we have in reality see about 750-800 blocks found daily... If you notice recent posts you can see alot of new people in the scene, if we cut mining, we will cut potential community members, too. I do not say i am against second hard-fork or future improvements. But it creates extra jobs for us and put SUPER network under some risk. And each time we create extra loads on other exchanges, pools, block explorers, mac wallet updater etc

We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours (if we dont become death tired). it will not be perfect and only at alfa stage. We will soon release beta one with feedbacks collected from you.

It's only 4 days left before reward drop. Well again remember we are here to service you :-)

So relax

yes but even if reward drops, price may go up and were back to square 1. ive expressed my thoughts. i saw how that 60btc buy wall got taken out by multipools dump, so im waiting to buy when they do. coin has potential, but that potential will be limited thanks to multipools

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Quote from: supercointeam on June 14, 2014, 10:07:37 AM

Quote from: jakiman on June 14, 2014, 09:51:14 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Multipool is really dumping Super down hard. Anything we can do to stop this madness?

There are 960 blocks per day that gets mined right now under PoW.
That's 960 x 512 = 491520 coins per day of inflation.
At 5000 sat, that's 25 BTC worth of coins that gets mined per day.
Now let's say multipool is mining 80% of all PoW coins. (worst case scenario)
That's 20 BTC worth of dumps per day.

That's a tiny amount considering the trade volume of 300+ BTC per day.
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps?

In less than 4 days, that will reduce to HALF due to reward halving.
Meaning, either only 10 BTC per day of dumps or 20 BTC if SUPER goes to 10k sat.

So I repeat, that's not a big amount considering the trade volume that we would all like. (100+ BTC min)
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps again?

The only reason price is going down is because:
1. People cashing out BTC due to ghash & FBI etc.
2. Other alts getting bigger pumps currently.
3. Too many people here crying about multipool dumps when it's not that significant.

Instead, tweet more about #supercoin, write positive posts in this thread etc.
We only need few extra investors per day to withstand any multipool dumps. You guys aren't really helping.

Agreed most of parts.

960 is theoretical number, we have in reality see about 750-800 blocks found daily... If you notice recent posts you can see alot of new people in the scene, if we cut mining, we will cut potential community members, too. I do not say i am against second hard-fork or future improvements. But it creates extra jobs for us and put SUPER network under some risk. And each time we create extra loads on other exchanges, pools, block explorers, mac wallet updater etc

We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours (if we dont become death tired). it will not be perfect and only at alfa stage. We will soon release beta one with feedbacks collected from you.

It's only 4 days left before reward drop. Well again remember we are here to service you :-)

So relax

OK.
Thanks for the update. let's wait for the Wallet release and how Multipool's affect going.

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So 100% POS isnt an issue ?

(100%/365days) = 0.27% of total coins will be extra in POS stakes a day

Not touching this coin

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Quote from: jakiman on June 14, 2014, 09:51:14 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Multipool is really dumping Super down hard. Anything we can do to stop this madness?

There are 960 blocks per day that gets mined right now under PoW.
That's 960 x 512 = 491520 coins per day of inflation.
At 5000 sat, that's 25 BTC worth of coins that gets mined per day.
Now let's say multipool is mining 80% of all PoW coins. (worst case scenario)
That's 20 BTC worth of dumps per day.

That's a tiny amount considering the trade volume of 300+ BTC per day.
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps?

In less than 4 days, that will reduce to HALF due to reward halving.
Meaning, either only 10 BTC per day of dumps or 20 BTC if SUPER goes to 10k sat.

So I repeat, that's not a big amount considering the trade volume that we would all like. (100+ BTC min)
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps again?

The only reason price is going down is because:
1. People cashing out BTC due to ghash & FBI etc.
2. Other alts getting bigger pumps currently.
3. Too many people here crying about multipool dumps when it's not that significant.

Instead, tweet more about #supercoin, write positive posts in this thread etc.
We only need few extra investors per day to withstand any multipool dumps. You guys aren't really helping.

Agreed most of parts.

960 is theoretical number, we have in reality see about 750-800 blocks found daily... If you notice recent posts you can see alot of new people in the scene, if we cut mining, we will cut potential community members, too. I do not say i am against second hard-fork or future improvements. But it creates extra jobs for us and put SUPER network under some risk. And each time we create extra loads on other exchanges, pools, block explorers, mac wallet updater etc

We'r setting up now super mixer node and release soon the testnet Anon wallet, hopefully within 6 hours (if we dont become death tired). it will not be perfect and only at alfa stage. We will soon release beta one with feedbacks collected from you.

It's only 4 days left before reward drop. Well again remember we are here to service you :-)

So relax

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Quote from: mctaino on June 14, 2014, 09:59:21 AM

Quote from: jakiman on June 14, 2014, 09:51:14 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Multipool is really dumping Super down hard. Anything we can do to stop this madness?

There are 960 blocks per day that gets mined right now under PoW.
That's 960 x 512 = 491520 coins per day of inflation.
At 5000 sat, that's 25 BTC worth of coins that gets mined per day.
Now let's say multipool is mining 80% of all PoW coins. (worst case scenario)
That's 20 BTC worth of dumps per day.

That's a tiny amount considering the trade volume of 300+ BTC per day.
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps?

In less than 4 days, that will reduce to HALF due to reward halving.
Meaning, either only 10 BTC per day of dumps or 20 BTC if SUPER goes to 10k sat.

So I repeat, that's not a big amount considering the trade volume that we would all like. (100+ BTC min)
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps again?

The only reason price is going down is because:
1. People cashing out BTC due to ghash & FBI etc.
2. Other alts getting bigger pumps currently.
3. Too many people here crying about multipool dumps when it's not that significant.

Instead, tweet more about #supercoin, write positive posts in this thread etc.
We only need few extra investors per day to withstand any multipool dumps. You guys aren't really helping.

tweet more for people to get dumped on NO, Not happening. They have to hard fork the coin or it will die end of story

lol. Did you even read and understand what i wrote? Do you know how trading works?
Multipool sells mostly at market price. New investors BUY them because they WANT to.
New investors would actually be happy that they can buy it cheaper thanks to multipool.

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Quote from: jakiman on June 14, 2014, 09:51:14 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Multipool is really dumping Super down hard. Anything we can do to stop this madness?

There are 960 blocks per day that gets mined right now under PoW.
That's 960 x 512 = 491520 coins per day of inflation.
At 5000 sat, that's 25 BTC worth of coins that gets mined per day.
Now let's say multipool is mining 80% of all PoW coins. (worst case scenario)
That's 20 BTC worth of dumps per day.

That's a tiny amount considering the trade volume of 300+ BTC per day.
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps?

In less than 4 days, that will reduce to HALF due to reward halving.
Meaning, either only 10 BTC per day of dumps or 20 BTC if SUPER goes to 10k sat.

So I repeat, that's not a big amount considering the trade volume that we would all like. (100+ BTC min)
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps again?

The only reason price is going down is because:
1. People cashing out BTC due to ghash & FBI etc.
2. Other alts getting bigger pumps currently.
3. Too many people here crying about multipool dumps when it's not that significant.

Instead, tweet more about #supercoin, write positive posts in this thread etc.
We only need few extra investors per day to withstand any multipool dumps. You guys aren't really helping.

Look at the support buy in bittrex now .. only 6 BTC

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Quote from: HardwarePal on June 14, 2014, 09:58:18 AM

Its currently in POW only with 60K Blocks of which all blocks contained 512 coins and some superblocks ( worth more than 512) , so in other words with no POS you have a total of 30720000 + coins (31million).

Get info shows 11184285.51366728 (11 million)

Explain dev thanks Kiss

That block count us both pow and pos blocks combined.
Current pow block count is only about 15000.

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Quote from: jakiman on June 14, 2014, 09:51:14 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Multipool is really dumping Super down hard. Anything we can do to stop this madness?

There are 960 blocks per day that gets mined right now under PoW.
That's 960 x 512 = 491520 coins per day of inflation.
At 5000 sat, that's 25 BTC worth of coins that gets mined per day.
Now let's say multipool is mining 80% of all PoW coins. (worst case scenario)
That's 20 BTC worth of dumps per day.

That's a tiny amount considering the trade volume of 300+ BTC per day.
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps?

In less than 4 days, that will reduce to HALF due to reward halving.
Meaning, either only 10 BTC per day of dumps or 20 BTC if SUPER goes to 10k sat.

So I repeat, that's not a big amount considering the trade volume that we would all like. (100+ BTC min)
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps again?

The only reason price is going down is because:
1. People cashing out BTC due to ghash & FBI etc.
2. Other alts getting bigger pumps currently.
3. Too many people here crying about multipool dumps when it's not that significant.

Instead, tweet more about #supercoin, write positive posts in this thread etc.
We only need few extra investors per day to withstand any multipool dumps. You guys aren't really helping.

tweet more for people to get dumped on NO, Not happening. They have to hard fork the coin or it will die end of story

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Its currently in POW only with 60K Blocks of which all blocks contained 512 coins and some superblocks ( worth more than 512) , so in other words with no POS you have a total of 30720000 + coins (31million).

Get info shows 11184285.51366728 (11 million)

Explain dev thanks Kiss

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Multipool is really dumping Super down hard. Anything we can do to stop this madness?

There are 960 blocks per day that gets mined right now under PoW.
That's 960 x 512 = 491520 coins per day of inflation.
At 5000 sat, that's 25 BTC worth of coins that gets mined per day.
Now let's say multipool is mining 80% of all PoW coins. (worst case scenario)
That's 20 BTC worth of dumps per day.

That's a tiny amount considering the trade volume of 300+ BTC per day.
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps?

In less than 4 days, that will reduce to HALF due to reward halving.
Meaning, either only 10 BTC per day of dumps or 20 BTC if SUPER goes to 10k sat.

So I repeat, that's not a big amount considering the trade volume that we would all like. (100+ BTC min)
So what's all this crying over multipool dumps again?

The only reason price is going down is because:
1. People cashing out BTC due to ghash & FBI etc.
2. Other alts getting bigger pumps currently.
3. Too many people here crying about multipool dumps when it's not that significant.

Instead, tweet more about #supercoin, write positive posts in this thread etc.
We only need few extra investors per day to withstand any multipool dumps. You guys aren't really helping.

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