[ANN]UltraMiner FPGA is Live on Indiegogo! - page 2.

arm_race

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For mining, you don't need PCIe
Only the power and USB would be sufficient. thanks

Quote from: Globalminingcorp on February 08, 2019, 03:36:08 AM

Quote from: arm_race on February 07, 2019, 10:54:24 AM

1. For mining, you don't; it is reserved for FPGA hobbyist to use it in "normal" application
2. The RAM is not included, depending on the application, you may chose different mem card (size, speed)
Note that our current mining algos don't need external memory

Quote from: Globalminingcorp on February 07, 2019, 03:26:19 AM

Interesting card, will keep my eye on this and maybe order one Wink

Two questions after looking through the specifications:

1. Simple USB only connection for mining, no need to mess with PCIe
What do you mean? Does it need to be put in a PCIe slot or not?

2. DDR4 260 pin SODIMM socket (170Gb/s max bandwidth, 32GB max capacity)
Is any ram included or do we need to add it to the card?

Thanks!

Thanks for the reply. Do we still use the PCIe to connect to the computer / mining rig (like we do with videocards)?

arm_race

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Thanks!

i hope this campaign can at least melt some ice, as i know people got really frustrated by what had happened.
we are ordering small quantity parts to make prototype boards. will keep everyone updated with progress

Quote from: klintay on February 08, 2019, 02:52:02 AM

Awesome and ambitious project, I am watching closely.
Wish you all the best with the indigogo crowd fund.

Quote from: bswilmington on February 07, 2019, 09:49:41 PM

Any chance you will add support for Grin before all the ASICs hit?

GRIN would be a great idea but perhaps too soon

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Quote from: Globalminingcorp on February 08, 2019, 03:36:08 AM

Quote from: arm_race on February 07, 2019, 10:54:24 AM

1. For mining, you don't; it is reserved for FPGA hobbyist to use it in "normal" application
2. The RAM is not included, depending on the application, you may chose different mem card (size, speed)
Note that our current mining algos don't need external memory

Quote from: Globalminingcorp on February 07, 2019, 03:26:19 AM

Interesting card, will keep my eye on this and maybe order one Wink

Two questions after looking through the specifications:

1. Simple USB only connection for mining, no need to mess with PCIe
What do you mean? Does it need to be put in a PCIe slot or not?

2. DDR4 260 pin SODIMM socket (170Gb/s max bandwidth, 32GB max capacity)
Is any ram included or do we need to add it to the card?

Thanks!

Thanks for the reply. Do we still use the PCIe to connect to the computer / mining rig (like we do with videocards)?

No PCI-E, only USB

Globalminingcorp

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Quote from: arm_race on February 07, 2019, 10:54:24 AM

1. For mining, you don't; it is reserved for FPGA hobbyist to use it in "normal" application
2. The RAM is not included, depending on the application, you may chose different mem card (size, speed)
Note that our current mining algos don't need external memory

Quote from: Globalminingcorp on February 07, 2019, 03:26:19 AM

Interesting card, will keep my eye on this and maybe order one Wink

Two questions after looking through the specifications:

1. Simple USB only connection for mining, no need to mess with PCIe
What do you mean? Does it need to be put in a PCIe slot or not?

2. DDR4 260 pin SODIMM socket (170Gb/s max bandwidth, 32GB max capacity)
Is any ram included or do we need to add it to the card?

Thanks!

Thanks for the reply. Do we still use the PCIe to connect to the computer / mining rig (like we do with videocards)?

klintay

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Activity: 1775

Merit: 1032

Value will be measured in sats

Awesome and ambitious project, I am watching closely.
Wish you all the best with the indigogo crowd fund.

Quote from: bswilmington on February 07, 2019, 09:49:41 PM

Any chance you will add support for Grin before all the ASICs hit?

GRIN would be a great idea but perhaps too soon

bswilmington

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Any chance you will add support for Grin before all the ASICs hit?

arm_race

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Contact [email protected] for our FPGA miner info!

1. For mining, you don't; it is reserved for FPGA hobbyist to use it in "normal" application
2. The RAM is not included, depending on the application, you may chose different mem card (size, speed)
Note that our current mining algos don't need external memory

Quote from: Globalminingcorp on February 07, 2019, 03:26:19 AM

Interesting card, will keep my eye on this and maybe order one Wink

Two questions after looking through the specifications:

1. Simple USB only connection for mining, no need to mess with PCIe
What do you mean? Does it need to be put in a PCIe slot or not?

2. DDR4 260 pin SODIMM socket (170Gb/s max bandwidth, 32GB max capacity)
Is any ram included or do we need to add it to the card?

Thanks!

arm_race

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Contact [email protected] for our FPGA miner info!

Quote from: nsummy on February 07, 2019, 01:09:36 AM

My 2 cents: I think its great that something like this is finally being sold on a platform with some accountability.

Also is this Coralville, IA? I live in Iowa City Cool

Thanks, that's what we want to have a open project, with real developers, everyone can see, talk about, and contribute to, and hopefully to build a community and more developers are willing to write fpga code for mining.

we know there are many custom-made, secret fpga miners in China, but i would say 99.9% of them are using 7 series 28nm process xilinx fpga chips, which is 2 generation older than the xilinx 16nm ultrascale+ fpga we intend to use. In order to use the latest xilinx chip, you need to present a strong case to the xilinx manufacturer, and that's what we have done in the past month.

the purpose of the campaign is to get enough orders so we can do mass production, i think 500 is the minimal below which we would be losing money making any. but we are going to order some sample parts and build some for ourselves anyway.

and Good to know another Iowan, 2 of us work in CR, and 1 is in Oregon managing the production, where for sure you can find more factories than here in Iowa..

Globalminingcorp

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Interesting card, will keep my eye on this and maybe order one Wink

Two questions after looking through the specifications:

1. Simple USB only connection for mining, no need to mess with PCIe
What do you mean? Does it need to be put in a PCIe slot or not?

2. DDR4 260 pin SODIMM socket (170Gb/s max bandwidth, 32GB max capacity)
Is any ram included or do we need to add it to the card?

Thanks!

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My 2 cents: I think its great that something like this is finally being sold on a platform with some accountability.

Also is this Coralville, IA? I live in Iowa City Cool

arm_race

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we all know it is a crappy market now, but the message you are trying to convey is that all miners should just quit mining.
will FPGA save it all? no, it is just another tool in the box, it stands out due to its easy configuration and power efficiency and low heat, compared to the "old cheaply" gpu mining. this fpga chip is the best you can find in the market, in terms of performance per watt/per dollar. we think it is pretty cool to have for mining that's why we are making them, but if you are talking about ROI, i don't think gpu and asic are getting anywhere better.

Quote from: xs.over on February 06, 2019, 06:23:49 PM

Quote from: arm_race on February 05, 2019, 01:50:28 PM

Estimated hashrate table:

One more "crypto mining" FPGA board which will never ROI.
lyra2z is already decimated by bcu1525 and private chinese fpga farms. The last one coin with notable emission GINcoin is forking withing near week or so.
6Mh/s on Phi2 algo earns 5 to 15 cents per day with electricity at 10 cents/KW. Even old cheapy $70-100 rx480/580 Polaris hash the same 6Mh/s on this algorithm.
Lyra2rev3. Current profit is 20 cents per day. This is 5+ years payback period. old cheapy $70-100 rx480/580 Polaris hash almost the same ~45Mh/s with barely OC and ASM optimized miner.
Tribus, Keccak, 0xbtc, XDAG algos are dead if speaking in terms of profit

No one public available fpga board with a public bitstream can ROI mining cryptocurrencies, especially in current market state.
I want to repeat: mainly only miming hardware manufacturers and hardware resellers earn money in crypto mining sphere.
Currently crytpomining is a zero-sum game, where miners will always lose, doesn't matter what kind of specialized hardware you are using : ASICs, FPGA.
Take a look at bcu1525, Acorn owners. They all screwed, there are no chance that they'll be able to payback investments even within 3 years period

Please don't call me overly pessimistic. I'm a realist who is familiar with math

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Quote from: arm_race on February 05, 2019, 01:50:28 PM

Estimated hashrate table:

One more "crypto mining" FPGA board which will never ROI.
lyra2z is already decimated by bcu1525 and private chinese fpga farms. The last one coin with notable emission GINcoin is forking withing near week or so.
6Mh/s on Phi2 algo earns 5 to 15 cents per day with electricity at 10 cents/KW. Even old cheaply $70-100 rx480/580 Polaris hash the same 6Mh/s on this algorithm.
Lyra2rev3. Current profit is 20 cents per day. This is 5+ years payback period. old cheaply $70 rx470/570 Polaris hash almost the same ~45Mh/s with barely OC and ASM optimized miner.
Tribus, Keccak, 0xbtc, XDAG algos are dead if speaking in terms of profit

No one public available fpga board with a public bitstream can ROI mining cryptocurrencies, especially in current market state.
I want to repeat: mainly only miming hardware manufacturers and hardware resellers earn money in crypto mining sphere.
Currently crytpomining is a zero-sum game, where miners will always lose, doesn't matter what kind of specialized hardware you are using : ASICs, FPGA.
Take a look at bcu1525, Acorn owners. They all screwed, there are no chance that they'll be able to payback investments even within 3 years period

Please don't call me overly pessimistic. I'm a realist who is familiar with math

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Quote from: arm_race on February 06, 2019, 12:22:38 PM

BTW, what is the other scammer you were referring to?

there have been a few down the years... names that won't be remembered, and some that will.

arm_race

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I understand all the skepticism, I hope the community understands that the goal of this crowdfunding campaign is to secure the minimal sales in order to cover the cost of sampling and manufacturing, as well as to secure the price terms we have negotiated with fpga chip supplier.
essentially, to kick start it. as we are individual developers and not taking any external fund or investment, and we'd like to make it a community project. we don't intend to take any profit out of it, given the high cost of making them.

BTW, what is the other scammer you were referring to?

Quote from: rgsnedds on February 06, 2019, 11:39:20 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 05, 2019, 06:05:52 PM

just got a pm

here it is in its entirety .

I normally keep pm's private but this is an exception> I did a screen shot to keep it not doctored.
I have tested a sample of the older gear and I am willing to try and help with this one.
First testing a sample and second trying some kind of escrow setup. If all goes well.

I will not be screenshotting every single pm or email for clarity but I always try to be as transparent as I can be.

FPGA's for the most part have had issues coming to market

we all know the squirrel acorn mess
and there was another scammer out there.

So lets see if we can do this better then they did.

thanks Phil, just be careful mate, you wouldn't be the first to have received a sample and shilled a non-existent hardware.
I, for one, will wait to see retail reviews before i part with any money whatsoever. But yeah, thanks for clarifying.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on February 05, 2019, 06:05:52 PM

just got a pm

here it is in its entirety .

I normally keep pm's private but this is an exception> I did a screen shot to keep it not doctored.
I have tested a sample of the older gear and I am willing to try and help with this one.
First testing a sample and second trying some kind of escrow setup. If all goes well.

I will not be screenshotting every single pm or email for clarity but I always try to be as transparent as I can be.

FPGA's for the most part have had issues coming to market

we all know the squirrel acorn mess
and there was another scammer out there.

So lets see if we can do this better then they did.

thanks Phil, just be careful mate, you wouldn't be the first to have received a sample and shilled a non-existent hardware.
I, for one, will wait to see retail reviews before i part with any money whatsoever. But yeah, thanks for clarifying.

arm_race

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Quote from: RiceMiner69 on February 05, 2019, 11:09:15 PM

Will this one have the ability to mine memory intensive algos???

HI that really depends on how much memory it uses, there is in-chip block RAM to be used for mining, if not big enough then the mining efficiency will be dictated by the installed DDR4 memory on board. thanks.

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Will this one have the ability to mine memory intensive algos???

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see here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5089544.new#new

these guys are real and have produced real equipment

arm_race

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great thanks always appreciate reviewer, we understand the frustration and we want to keep it open and transparent as well. that's one reason why we chose a crowdfunding platform for this project.

Quote from: philipma1957 on February 05, 2019, 06:05:52 PM

just got a pm

here it is in its entirety .

I normally keep pm's private but this is an exception> I did a screen shot to keep it not doctored.
I have tested a sample of the older gear and I am willing to try and help with this one.
First testing a sample and second trying some kind of escrow setup. If all goes well.

I will not be screenshotting every single pm or email for clarity but I always try to be as transparent as I can be.

FPGA's for the most part have had issues coming to market

we all know the squirrel acorn mess
and there was another scammer out there.

So lets see if we can do this better then they did.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

just got a pm

here it is in its entirety .

I normally keep pm's private but this is an exception> I did a screen shot to keep it not doctored.
I have tested a sample of the older gear and I am willing to try and help with this one.
First testing a sample and second trying some kind of escrow setup. If all goes well.

I will not be screenshotting every single pm or email for clarity but I always try to be as transparent as I can be.

FPGA's for the most part have had issues coming to market

we all know the squirrel acorn mess
and there was another scammer out there.

So lets see if we can do this better then they did.

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