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Topic: [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea Fertilizer - page 17. (Read 247330 times)

sr. member
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Here's an analogy that will help concerned people understand why a urea seller today would accept 12,500 URO for 12,500 tonnes or urea when the price of URO is so low...

It's simply a permanent store of wealth. Urea has a limited shelf life. The producer can't store urea for 5 years then sell it so what can they do to retain their value? Simple, accept 12,500 URO for equivalent purchase of urea today.

Take a look at gold in 1900, it was only $20 usd per ounce but is stable today well over $1000 usd per ounce. http://www.onlygold.com/coins/Gold-Double-Eagles.asp

In 1900 a lot of experts knew that the value of gold had the potential to reach over $1000 but they weren't willing to pay it because they can keep the gold for 100 years because gold will last 100 years. The is really no difference between gold and URO except for one major feature. URO protocol means that 1 URO = 1 tonne of urea. Obviously URO will last forever (like gold) and it's a store of wealth. Even if it takes 100 years to reach $300 per URO it's still a store of wealth. With URO you have the option of accepting it for urea and keeping it or you can go out any day in the future and get 1 tonne of urea or sit on URO for 100 years and watch it reach 300 usd. The interesting thing is though what happens if there is some world event that causes market price of 1 tonne of urea to reach $1000 per tonne? Simple, now 1 URO = $1000 Smiley....

Look at what happened to the phosphate market (also a component of fertilizer). In the mid 2000's phosphate skyrocketed in price from $50 per tonne to almost $450 per tonne. This could happen to urea prices, there is no reason that they can't skyrocket to over $3,000 per tonne

http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/phosphate-rock/all/  
So uro which is a couple months old is now a permanent store of value? This is getting really deep.
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To all of you, actually read the protocol document before making any claims about the legimaticy of URO.


The protocol is one thing. An actual business transaction that proves the protocol is valid is another thing entirely.

How about this: if you prove that the transaction is fake you can claim the 88 BTC bounty right now, sounds fair enough?
Everything is proved already and it works, all you need to do is look it up.


So, no real written evidence of an actual business transaction then. I would think you guys would want to see that. It's kind of important.

Edit: Who is holding this bounty?
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bitcad4u are you going to reply to my question to you about the invisible protocol ratifiers:

Mr Schalk Davidson, Durban, South Africa

Mr Mohamad Z. Sukri, Hong Kong

You demand we do research. I did some. What do you think about it?

call the companies... ask if u can speak to them.  I did what u did already.  Give them a call.  
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I'm no facial recognition expert but....  Grin


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To all of you, actually read the protocol document before making any claims about the legimaticy of URO.


The protocol is one thing. An actual business transaction that proves the protocol is valid is another thing entirely.

How about this: if you prove that the transaction is fake you can claim the 88 BTC bounty right now, sounds fair enough?
Everything is proven already and it works, all you need to do is look it up.
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I just hope this doesn't set the climate for more fake "backing" coins. But we all know it will.
legendary
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I ask again - is it fully settled whether this is a scam or not, and if not, is there some definitive piece of evidence (besides the price chart) scheduled to come out that settles this question decisively (if so, when)?

Use your brain to decide, stop acting like a sheep.
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bitcad4u are you going to reply to my question to you about the invisible protocol ratifiers:

Mr Schalk Davidson, Durban, South Africa

Mr Mohamad Z. Sukri, Hong Kong

You demand we do research. I did some. What do you think about it?
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I don't know...is this really the same guy?  Grin
sr. member
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To all of you, actually read the protocol document before making any claims about the legimaticy of URO.


The protocol is one thing. An actual business transaction that proves the protocol is valid is another thing entirely.
hero member
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I ask again - is it fully settled whether this is a scam or not, and if not, is there some definitive piece of evidence (besides the price chart) scheduled to come out that settles this question decisively (if so, when)?

If only it were that easy to have cast-iron proof there wouldn't be any ups and downs on the chart. There would be either only up or down.  Cheesy
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I ask again - is it fully settled whether this is a scam or not, and if not, is there some definitive piece of evidence (besides the price chart) scheduled to come out that settles this question decisively (if so, when)?

how does a price chart determine this is a scam?
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Why on earth would a speculator tie up his btc when uro gets near the price of urea, knowing it's not going to go much over it? there is no chance to gain. The uro price only went to .04 because of hype it could go to .4, without chance of significant gains nearly all traders will be OUT.
Jebus, there just is no logic in this thread except from fudders. You want proof this is a scam? use your fuckin brain.

This may surprise you, but a cryptocurrency can be used for things other than speculation.  And when it is, speculators are no longer necessary.

hero member
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To all of you, actually read the protocol document before making any claims about the legimaticy of URO.
Any statements you make on URO are void until you do so.
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I ask again - is it fully settled whether this is a scam or not, and if not, is there some definitive piece of evidence (besides the price chart) scheduled to come out that settles this question decisively (if so, when)?
legendary
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Ok so I have read everything, all the papers pictures etc. One thing I cannot reconcile, maybe someone could explain it to me.


Why would anyone, at present, accept URO for Urea? they would be receiving a huge amount less than if they accepted USD and would lose a vast sum of money on the deal.

I put myself in the seller position, someone comes up to me and says, here you go mate, please accept 12500 URO for this purchase of a shipment of Urea. I look at the price of URO and say 'you mad bro?  give me 375K USD or get the fuck out of here.

What is the motivation for the seller to accept the URO on this deal?

The motivation is that now the seller has 12500 URO and can go out and acquire urea if and when he needs it from another seller. The market price of URO is irrelevant because the 12500 URO represents the urea. This is a huge benefit because it removes the price fluctuations of the urea market. The only reason URO price is low now is because many urea business people don't know about URO yet and add that to the constant morons fudding in here keeps the price low. I'm actually really liking the FUD because it's giving me more time to buy more URO. This will revolutionize commodity markets. I worked for 5 years in chemical distribution in Canada.

OK but a business needs to transfer their profits to fiat at some point. Businesses need cash to survive, employees need to be paid, rent needs to be paid, taxes need to be paid. If their profits are in URO and URO value is much lower than fiat value they are still losing money.

They won't be loosing money, because after every dick and dom and harry find that the Urea has been delivered for the price 1 Uro = 1 tonnes of Urea, they would be buying the coins on the exchanges until we reach a value close to urea maybe even more to play the ETF market, and they will save so much money on bank fees.

Why on earth would a speculator tie up his btc when uro gets near the price of urea, knowing it's not going to go much over it? there is no chance to gain. The uro price only went to .04 because of hype it could go to .4, without chance of significant gains nearly all traders will be OUT.
Jebus, there just is no logic in this thread except from fudders. You want proof this is a scam? use your fuckin brain.
sr. member
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No - I am saying - the PAPER documents show the signatues that LEGALLY bind the 4 distributors to accept URO for their UREA.  If you look up the 4 distributors, they are all LEGIT and still in business.  

Do your own research... I would do it for it for you but then you would just claim I made the documents up... or photoshopped them... cause u know thats how people act here.


You are not answering the question. Are there any documents that verify a business deal between the two companies for the sale of Urea for URO? Won't they need some type of documentation for tax purposes? What if the seller doesn't deliver?

I already answered this, and my answer was YES.  Now go do your research just like I did.


There is written documentation of this transaction? You are sure?
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No - I am saying - the PAPER documents show the signatues that LEGALLY bind the 4 distributors to accept URO for their UREA.  If you look up the 4 distributors, they are all LEGIT and still in business.  

Do your own research... I would do it for it for you but then you would just claim I made the documents up... or photoshopped them... cause u know thats how people act here.

OK,

Did 3 minutes research online.

Out of the four ratifying parties of the Uro Protocol (members of the Uro Foundation), it is impossible to find even the slightest information online about the people representing two of them:

Mr Schalk Davidson, Durban, South Africa

Mr Mohamad Z. Sukri, Hong Kong

(For the ratified protocol certificates see: http://uro.io/)

This is not normal at all. Beware.

I can't believe you also haven't Googled the high-ranking representatives of the ratifying companies. So please explain your findings. Do they differ from mine?
sr. member
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No - I am saying - the PAPER documents show the signatues that LEGALLY bind the 4 distributors to accept URO for their UREA.  If you look up the 4 distributors, they are all LEGIT and still in business.  

Do your own research... I would do it for it for you but then you would just claim I made the documents up... or photoshopped them... cause u know thats how people act here.


You are not answering the question. Are there any documents that verify a business deal between the two companies for the sale of Urea for URO? Won't they need some type of documentation for tax purposes? What if the seller doesn't deliver?

I already answered this, and my answer was YES.  Now go do your research just like I did.
newbie
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No - I am saying - the PAPER documents show the signatues that LEGALLY bind the 4 distributors to accept URO for their UREA.  If you look up the 4 distributors, they are all LEGIT and still in business.  

Do your own research... I would do it for it for you but then you would just claim I made the documents up... or photoshopped them... cause u know thats how people act here.


You are not answering the question. Are there any documents that verify a business deal between the two companies for the sale of Urea for URO? Won't they need some type of documentation for tax purposes? What if the seller doesn't deliver?

Blind faith man.  Just have blind faith.  Most investors don't need concrete proof....right?
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