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July 05, 2014, 11:47:46 PM

i just cleared that with you, i was referring hours to how long the wall was up. when people keep buying orders below that large sell orders, the 10btc order is expected to be eaten quickly as it shows people are not put off by the order. the order would only be fake if there were no orders below it, and they bought it up.

ok the 10BTC voot aside, how can you be sure the rox walls werent eaten by trading api's. Im telling you this is the most likely reason for them getting bought so quickly. The reason people use them is to beat other peoples reaction times so they can maximize their accumulation or profit taking. I just dont see it being "faked volume" It was bought, so the volume is real. I really dont think im missing anything but I dont see how the speed at which a large order is filled makes it fake. But to each their own, you say fake volume, I say a smart trader really wanted to buy a ton quickly.

fake volume as in the buyer/seller is the same, look we can go on, but i don't to cover voot thread with this. people can check for themselves
and how can you tell that the buyer and seller are the same? that again is speculation. did you trace all the coins? im not trying to drag this out but i dont see it as concrete evidence unless you tracked all the coins down the blockchain.

i ain't really gonna explain this on voot thread, it will just drag on. if your new to trading, you will learn as you trade more
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July 05, 2014, 11:42:48 PM

i just cleared that with you, i was referring hours to how long the wall was up. when people keep buying orders below that large sell orders, the 10btc order is expected to be eaten quickly as it shows people are not put off by the order. the order would only be fake if there were no orders below it, and they bought it up.

ok the 10BTC voot aside, how can you be sure the rox walls werent eaten by trading api's. Im telling you this is the most likely reason for them getting bought so quickly. The reason people use them is to beat other peoples reaction times so they can maximize their accumulation or profit taking. I just dont see it being "faked volume" It was bought, so the volume is real. I really dont think im missing anything but I dont see how the speed at which a large order is filled makes it fake. But to each their own, you say fake volume, I say a smart trader really wanted to buy a ton quickly.

fake volume as in the buyer/seller is the same, look we can go on, but i don't to cover voot thread with this. people can check for themselves
and how can you tell that the buyer and seller are the same? that again is speculation. did you trace all the coins? im not trying to drag this out but i dont see it as concrete evidence unless you tracked all the coins down the blockchain.
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July 05, 2014, 11:42:36 PM
Looks like a little shakeup

Someone wants cheap coins

someone just trying to create panic, il take the volume though
i love panic, that depth chart is looking sweet, im ready to rumble, moving btc now!
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July 05, 2014, 11:41:46 PM
Looks like a little shakeup

Someone wants cheap coins

someone just trying to create panic, il take the volume though
ya i just snatched up another 15k @1900!
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July 05, 2014, 11:41:25 PM

i just cleared that with you, i was referring hours to how long the wall was up. when people keep buying orders below that large sell orders, the 10btc order is expected to be eaten quickly as it shows people are not put off by the order. the order would only be fake if there were no orders below it, and they bought it up.

ok the 10BTC voot aside, how can you be sure the rox walls werent eaten by trading api's. Im telling you this is the most likely reason for them getting bought so quickly. The reason people use them is to beat other peoples reaction times so they can maximize their accumulation or profit taking. I just dont see it being "faked volume" It was bought, so the volume is real. I really dont think im missing anything but I dont see how the speed at which a large order is filled makes it fake. But to each their own, you say fake volume, I say a smart trader really wanted to buy a ton quickly.

fake volume as in the buyer/seller is the same, look we can go on, but i don't want to cover voot thread with this. people can check for themselves
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July 05, 2014, 11:39:40 PM
Looks like a little shakeup

Someone wants cheap coins

someone just trying to create panic, il take the volume though
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July 05, 2014, 11:39:23 PM

i just cleared that with you, i was referring hours to how long the wall was up. when people keep buying orders below that large sell orders, the 10btc order is expected to be eaten quickly as it shows people are not put off by the order. the order would only be fake if there were no orders below it, and they bought it up.

ok the 10BTC voot aside, how can you be sure the rox walls werent eaten by trading api's. Im telling you this is the most likely reason for them getting bought so quickly. The reason people use them is to beat other peoples reaction times so they can maximize their accumulation or profit taking. I just dont see it being "faked volume" It was bought, so the volume is real. I really dont think im missing anything but I dont see how the speed at which a large order is filled makes it fake. But to each their own, you say fake volume, I say a smart trader really wanted to buy a ton quickly.
sr. member
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July 05, 2014, 11:39:20 PM
Looks like a little shakeup

Someone wants cheap coins
thats was a pretty nice shake up, thanks!
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
July 05, 2014, 11:38:15 PM
Looks like a little shakeup

Someone wants cheap coins
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July 05, 2014, 11:30:05 PM
so i happen to be brainstorming with a buddy talking about vootcould, privacy and file sharing and wow, what we could do with a possible extra on vootcloud could be mind blowing, im waiting for mscollec to answer my pm Smiley
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July 05, 2014, 11:25:34 PM
Hehe.. Didn`t he wrote ROX COIN has huge fake volume?

ya but i was just asking in general how can someone even know for sure if the volume is faked?

if you see a huge sell order get eaten up in a second and its repetitive, its obvious. dude doesn't want to risk a panic sell because of a large order and he wouldn't want to catch anyone else's order after he has put that up. so its shows for 1 sec and it goes and look at the market history, you telling me the 11.98btc and 9btc, 3 btc orders look funny to you when compared to recent trades

anyway enough of ROX, coin talk. its not worth the attention at the moment. will not fill voot up with rox talk
im not trying to bring up rox, I just want to know how to prove it is fake. Your logic is speculative at best. Ive seen it happen in every coin out there, saw it on voot last night. I still dont understand how it is "fake." the orders went through so they are obviously real. Maybe im missing something but it looks to me like whales are snatching up any large volume sell orders that they feel are below actual long term value. I myself have bought a couple 5+BTC walls in a few minutes in numerous coins when I felt I needed to accumulate more asap. Most of the time it paid off very nicely. I think people are reading too much into this conspiracy aspect of crypto. I think these people buy large orders quickly and back to back  because if im looking to spend 5+BTC i would rather buy from a wall then chip away buying 20+ small orders. Eating walls is how markets move. So I still dont understand the term "fake volume" volume is volume IMHO. Unless a site is posting inflated numbers to make it look like they are doing more business, then that to me would be fake volume. Not actual sells/buys.

it looks like your new to trading. a real 12btc would not show up for 1 sec and get bought out 1 second later. then another 9btc wall would not do the same on rox coin. voot had 10btc wall at 2500, it was there for hours, before it got eaten up. people placed sell orders beneath that so we munched through them before we ate 10btc wall.
Last night, about 20 hrs ago? The first half of that wall got eaten in 2 minutes, then I posted about it mocking how fast it dropped. It stayed at 5BTC for another 5 minutes because people stacked over it so I waited and bought 2BTC to bring it back to 2500 and it got eaten 10 minutes later... hardly "hours".
Also the way TREX works is that sometimes when an order first shows up for some reason it will flash for a few seconds and then vanish for 20-30 seconds. Smart people who are watching can actually buy them BEFORE they even show back up in the listing... I did it myself last night

i was online and i saw a different picture. it had trouble breaking 2500 because of the 10btc wall and it was there for sometime. no way of proving it,but im dead sure, it was there for hours. the wall got eaten in mins, but it took a while to reach that wall to be eaten. many people were selling under 2500 and we worked our way up until it was eaten. rox orders show up from 1 sec and get bought out straight away. that is the difference i am calling.

if you think i meant it took hours to eat that 10btc wall i did not mean i meant that the wall was still on order for that long unlike rox orders disappearing in seconds
we are not talking about how long it takes to get to a wall. the debate is how fast it got eaten. you said hours, i said minutes. Im just saying, simply saying buy volumes are faked because they are bought up too fast (prob by autotrade programs) is specious reasoning and speculative at best


i just cleared that with you, i was referring hours to how long the wall was up. when people keep buying orders below that large sell orders, the 10btc order is expected to be eaten quickly as it shows people are not put off by the order. the order would only be fake if there were no orders below it, and they bought it up.
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July 05, 2014, 11:21:27 PM
VootCloud - Now I can store my files and coins online  Cheesy



you just dont stop do you.. Grin can't be any happier with the ongoing development.
legendary
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FLAT OUT!!!
July 05, 2014, 11:20:44 PM
great to see a voot gaining strength even more on the weekend, next week is going to be even better.

yep and i personally think it will keep gaining over the coming weeks and months ahead  Grin

all thanks to the people behind the scenes of this great coin, congrats to them they deserve the credit and hope they are rewarded at the end of there journey  Smiley
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VootCoin PR/IRC Admin
July 05, 2014, 11:18:40 PM
Jeez worst than squirrel's on adderal with these long ass posts lol  Grin
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July 05, 2014, 11:17:05 PM
Hehe.. Didn`t he wrote ROX COIN has huge fake volume?

ya but i was just asking in general how can someone even know for sure if the volume is faked?

if you see a huge sell order get eaten up in a second and its repetitive, its obvious. dude doesn't want to risk a panic sell because of a large order and he wouldn't want to catch anyone else's order after he has put that up. so its shows for 1 sec and it goes and look at the market history, you telling me the 11.98btc and 9btc, 3 btc orders look funny to you when compared to recent trades

anyway enough of ROX, coin talk. its not worth the attention at the moment. will not fill voot up with rox talk
im not trying to bring up rox, I just want to know how to prove it is fake. Your logic is speculative at best. Ive seen it happen in every coin out there, saw it on voot last night. I still dont understand how it is "fake." the orders went through so they are obviously real. Maybe im missing something but it looks to me like whales are snatching up any large volume sell orders that they feel are below actual long term value. I myself have bought a couple 5+BTC walls in a few minutes in numerous coins when I felt I needed to accumulate more asap. Most of the time it paid off very nicely. I think people are reading too much into this conspiracy aspect of crypto. I think these people buy large orders quickly and back to back  because if im looking to spend 5+BTC i would rather buy from a wall then chip away buying 20+ small orders. Eating walls is how markets move. So I still dont understand the term "fake volume" volume is volume IMHO. Unless a site is posting inflated numbers to make it look like they are doing more business, then that to me would be fake volume. Not actual sells/buys.

it looks like your new to trading. a real 12btc would not show up for 1 sec and get bought out 1 second later. then another 9btc wall would not do the same on rox coin. voot had 10btc wall at 2500, it was there for hours, before it got eaten up. people placed sell orders beneath that so we munched through them before we ate 10btc wall.
Last night, about 20 hrs ago? The first half of that wall got eaten in 2 minutes, then I posted about it mocking how fast it dropped. It stayed at 5BTC for another 5 minutes because people stacked over it so I waited and bought 2BTC to bring it back to 2500 and it got eaten 10 minutes later... hardly "hours".
Also the way TREX works is that sometimes when an order first shows up for some reason it will flash for a few seconds and then vanish for 20-30 seconds. Smart people who are watching can actually buy them BEFORE they even show back up in the listing... I did it myself last night

i was online and i saw a different picture. it had trouble breaking 2500 because of the 10btc wall and it was there for sometime. no way of proving it,but im dead sure, it was there for hours. the wall got eaten in mins, but it took a while to reach that wall to be eaten. many people were selling under 2500 and we worked our way up until it was eaten. rox orders show up from 1 sec and get bought out straight away. that is the difference i am calling.

if you think i meant it took hours to eat that 10btc wall i did not mean i meant that the wall was still on order for that long unlike rox orders disappearing in seconds
we are not talking about how long it takes to get to a wall. the debate is how fast it got eaten. you said hours, i said minutes. Im just saying, simply saying buy volumes are faked because they are bought up too fast (prob by autotrade programs) is specious reasoning and speculative at best
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July 05, 2014, 11:13:36 PM
Hehe.. Didn`t he wrote ROX COIN has huge fake volume?

ya but i was just asking in general how can someone even know for sure if the volume is faked?

if you see a huge sell order get eaten up in a second and its repetitive, its obvious. dude doesn't want to risk a panic sell because of a large order and he wouldn't want to catch anyone else's order after he has put that up. so its shows for 1 sec and it goes and look at the market history, you telling me the 11.98btc and 9btc, 3 btc orders look funny to you when compared to recent trades

anyway enough of ROX, coin talk. its not worth the attention at the moment. will not fill voot up with rox talk
im not trying to bring up rox, I just want to know how to prove it is fake. Your logic is speculative at best. Ive seen it happen in every coin out there, saw it on voot last night. I still dont understand how it is "fake." the orders went through so they are obviously real. Maybe im missing something but it looks to me like whales are snatching up any large volume sell orders that they feel are below actual long term value. I myself have bought a couple 5+BTC walls in a few minutes in numerous coins when I felt I needed to accumulate more asap. Most of the time it paid off very nicely. I think people are reading too much into this conspiracy aspect of crypto. I think these people buy large orders quickly and back to back  because if im looking to spend 5+BTC i would rather buy from a wall then chip away buying 20+ small orders. Eating walls is how markets move. So I still dont understand the term "fake volume" volume is volume IMHO. Unless a site is posting inflated numbers to make it look like they are doing more business, then that to me would be fake volume. Not actual sells/buys.

it looks like your new to trading. a real 12btc would not show up for 1 sec and get bought out 1 second later. then another 9btc wall would not do the same on rox coin. voot had 10btc wall at 2500, it was there for hours, before it got eaten up. people placed sell orders beneath that so we munched through them before we ate 10btc wall.
Last night, about 20 hrs ago? The first half of that wall got eaten in 2 minutes, then I posted about it mocking how fast it dropped. It stayed at 5BTC for another 5 minutes because people stacked over it so I waited and bought 2BTC to bring it back to 2500 and it got eaten 10 minutes later... hardly "hours".
Also the way TREX works is that sometimes when an order first shows up for some reason it will flash for a few seconds and then vanish for 20-30 seconds. Smart people who are watching can actually buy them BEFORE they even show back up in the listing... I did it myself last night

i was online and i saw a different picture. it had trouble breaking 2500 because of the 10btc wall and it was there for sometime. no way of proving it,but im dead sure, it was there for hours. the wall got eaten in mins, but it took a while to reach that wall to be eaten. many people were selling under 2500 and we worked our way up until it was eaten. rox orders show up from 1 sec and get bought out straight away. that is the difference i am calling.

if you think i meant it took hours to eat that 10btc wall i did not mean i meant that the wall was still on order for that long unlike rox orders disappearing in seconds
sr. member
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July 05, 2014, 11:11:42 PM
Meanwhile, poloniex just added voot https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_voot
lol it was add it a while ago. well today!
sr. member
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July 05, 2014, 11:11:04 PM
guys lets get on twitter https://twitter.com/Rdanetti/status/485635419082858496
it would be nice to promo a little.
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July 05, 2014, 11:09:41 PM
Meanwhile, poloniex just added voot https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_voot
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July 05, 2014, 11:07:31 PM
Hehe.. Didn`t he wrote ROX COIN has huge fake volume?

ya but i was just asking in general how can someone even know for sure if the volume is faked?

if you see a huge sell order get eaten up in a second and its repetitive, its obvious. dude doesn't want to risk a panic sell because of a large order and he wouldn't want to catch anyone else's order after he has put that up. so its shows for 1 sec and it goes and look at the market history, you telling me the 11.98btc and 9btc, 3 btc orders look funny to you when compared to recent trades

anyway enough of ROX, coin talk. its not worth the attention at the moment. will not fill voot up with rox talk
im not trying to bring up rox, I just want to know how to prove it is fake. Your logic is speculative at best. Ive seen it happen in every coin out there, saw it on voot last night. I still dont understand how it is "fake." the orders went through so they are obviously real. Maybe im missing something but it looks to me like whales are snatching up any large volume sell orders that they feel are below actual long term value. I myself have bought a couple 5+BTC walls in a few minutes in numerous coins when I felt I needed to accumulate more asap. Most of the time it paid off very nicely. I think people are reading too much into this conspiracy aspect of crypto. I think these people buy large orders quickly and back to back  because if im looking to spend 5+BTC i would rather buy from a wall then chip away buying 20+ small orders. Eating walls is how markets move. So I still dont understand the term "fake volume" volume is volume IMHO. Unless a site is posting inflated numbers to make it look like they are doing more business, then that to me would be fake volume. Not actual sells/buys.

it looks like your new to trading. a real 12btc would not show up for 1 sec and get bought out 1 second later. then another 9btc wall would not do the same on rox coin. voot had 10btc wall at 2500, it was there for hours, before it got eaten up. people placed sell orders beneath that so we munched through them before we ate 10btc wall.
Last night, about 20 hrs ago? The first half of that wall got eaten in 2 minutes, then I posted about it mocking how fast it dropped. It stayed at 5BTC for another 5 minutes because people stacked over it so I waited and bought 2BTC to bring it back to 2500 and it got eaten 10 minutes later... hardly "hours".
Also the way TREX works is that sometimes when an order first shows up for some reason it will flash for a few seconds and then vanish for 20-30 seconds. Smart people who are watching can actually buy them BEFORE they even show back up in the listing... I did it myself last night


that 10BTC sell wall got cut in half in 5 mins before someone put in a few lower sells Smiley  
EDIT 15 mins later its GONE!

EDIT: and I havent even brought up autotrading programs, which you can tell are being used in this market as evidenced by all t sells for 1 that get stacked up in seconds. A smart trader looking to accumulate, using one of these programs, can and will buy almost instantaneously 
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