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Topic: [ANN][VOOT] X11 VootCoin | Nitesend | Tor | Voot Foundation | - page 94. (Read 139970 times)

sr. member
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Merit: 250
This thread is full with kids. MsCollec ran away  Huh

Man, bring back some trust to the community. Wink

I think people are grateful for all the good things you did.
They are just angry because of how the deadline situation was solved.
Missing the deadline is not a problem.
missing the deadline + dumping at the same time + tweeting that you step down (never mind if it was accidental) + not replying after the incident = this is what made people angry and ungrateful

It's like helping old woman cross the street and then slap her in the face. Wink

I am grateful for what MsCollec has done, but the part that troubled me was the insider trading. As of right now, I will continue to hold my coin and hope for the best for Voot.

hero member
Activity: 682
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The team that delivered TOR and NiteSend missed a deadline and you guys started sending death threats and calling them a scammer. If you don't remember your humble beginning and people that helped you in distress you can't succeed.

The fact that I used my own fund and got involved with Vootcoin when sync members were against it, should tell you a lot of personality. Do you actually think NiteSend, TOR, exchange and VootCloud cost 5 Btc each?  At least I was given 10 BTC.

You guys are ungrateful

Well said. Ungrateful spoilt brat kids.
sr. member
Activity: 334
Merit: 250
This thread is full with kids. MsCollec ran away  Huh

Man, bring back some trust to the community. Wink

I think people are grateful for all the good things you did.
They are just angry because of how the deadline situation was solved.
Missing the deadline is not a problem.
missing the deadline + dumping at the same time + tweeting that you step down (never mind if it was accidental) + not replying after the incident = this is what made people angry and ungrateful

It's like helping old woman cross the street and then slap her in the face. Wink

You got that the wrong way round.

Missed deadline
death threats and people acting like 12 yr old homicidal emo's
then tweets

If the old woman slapped you and threatened to kill you, you wouldn't be helping her to cross the road, you would of walked away

Nice one, laughed at it. Cheesy

But if this was 12 year old instead of an old woman, I would not take seriously his threats.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
This thread is full with kids. MsCollec ran away  Huh

Man, bring back some trust to the community. Wink

I think people are grateful for all the good things you did.
They are just angry because of how the deadline situation was solved.
Missing the deadline is not a problem.
missing the deadline + dumping at the same time + tweeting that you step down (never mind if it was accidental) + not replying after the incident = this is what made people angry and ungrateful

It's like helping old woman cross the street and then slap her in the face. Wink

You got that the wrong way round.

Missed deadline
death threats and people acting like 12 yr old homicidal emo's
then tweets

If the old woman slapped you and threatened to kill you, you wouldn't be helping her to cross the road, you would of walked away
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
The team that delivered TOR and NiteSend missed a deadline and you guys started sending death threats and calling them a scammer. If you don't remember your humble beginning and people that helped you in distress you can't succeed.

The fact that I used my own fund and got involved with Vootcoin when sync members were against it, should tell you a lot of personality. Do you actually think NiteSend, TOR, exchange and VootCloud cost 5 Btc each?  At least I was given 10 BTC.

You guys are ungrateful

Not all of us.

I know you worked your ass off and will continue to do what you can.  I know you used your own btc to help fund and pay for everything. 
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
The team that delivered TOR and NiteSend missed a deadline and you guys started sending death threats and calling them a scammer. If you don't remember your humble beginning and people that helped you in distress you can't succeed.

The fact that I used my own fund and got involved with Vootcoin when sync members were against it, should tell you a lot of personality. Do you actually think NiteSend, TOR, exchange and VootCloud cost 5 Btc each?  At least I was given 10 BTC.

You guys are ungrateful

Okay, My question is not about the past but the future. I understand you gave a get deal to make this coin what it is today and I'm thankfully for what you did. What I want to known is where do we go from here?
member
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VootCoin PR/IRC Admin
The team that delivered TOR and NiteSend missed a deadline and you guys started sending death threats and calling them a scammer. If you don't remember your humble beginning and people that helped you in distress you can't succeed.

The fact that I used my own fund and got involved with Vootcoin when sync members were against it, should tell you a lot of personality. Do you actually think NiteSend, TOR, exchange and VootCloud cost 5 Btc each?  At least I was given 10 BTC.

You guys are ungrateful

I appreciate all the long nights, hard work and time spent on VOOT. I know i am not the only one! VOOT has such a great path paved. Thanks MsCollec, Smoketeam, and All others !
sr. member
Activity: 334
Merit: 250
This thread is full with kids. MsCollec ran away  Huh

Man, bring back some trust to the community. Wink

I think people are grateful for all the good things you did.
They are just angry because of how the deadline situation was solved.
Missing the deadline is not a problem.
missing the deadline + dumping at the same time + tweeting that you step down (never mind if it was accidental) + not replying after the incident = this is what made people angry and ungrateful

It's like helping old woman cross the street and then slap her in the face. Wink
member
Activity: 112
Merit: 10
VootCoin PR/IRC Admin
Still havent got my wallet fixed :/


Heres the link to my post Smiley Didnt wanna fill the thread with walls of text.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8091108
drm
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
newbie
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Merit: 0
This thread is full with kids. MsCollec ran away  Huh

I didn't think you ran away. It just seems like you are very busy with other commitments which is fine, but as the lead developer how do you feel about this situation right now ? I would like to know what you think of how we bring this coin back to where it belongs.
sr. member
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I don't want to sound unkind, but jeffersonsairplane truly sucks in his job. Wink

Seems like Smoke team are the only serious people here.
sr. member
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I will gladly commit to the PR team, since jeffersonsairplane seems not to have enough time for everything.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
I feel the same way. Everything happened when I went on vacation... and after thoroughly reading over the dramas, I feel cheated by dev and team, especially the fact that there was some insider trading involved. I really don't want to dump this coin on the exchange and cause a panic since I hold quite a bit of it. Is there any resassurance? As of right now, I don't know what to believe.
member
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Ask the mineral team if they want to take over. Probably most reliabe team and also very skilled.
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
MsCollec just hired people to develop the coin.
Anyone of us could do this.

I could help and take over, however I don't feel that I am the best person since I am not too knowledgeable when it comes to technical details. However as a mayor holder I could help the new dev team.

See I like the idea of having someone who's interests are inline with the interests of the holders of the coin. I think the whales of this coin need to step up and make this happen. We should have a group of the major holders helping to make some of the important decisions on this coin. 
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
MsCollec just hired people to develop the coin.
Anyone of us could do this.

I could help and take over, however I don't feel that I am the best person since I am not too knowledgeable when it comes to technical details. However as a mayor holder I could help the new dev team.
drm
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
he actually left sync
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
oh thanks and were was voot as mscollec was taking this Thing over ?

Sub 100

That would be about right.

I hope you are not going with this to such conclusion:
"MsCollec took over Voot at 100 satoshi, now coin is worth 500 satoshi, so it is a success and not failure", because that's not the issue here.

Me myself got in at 500 satoshi, so I am happy.
But many people were tempted by MsCollec who promised many things, delivered only on some of them and at the night before supposed delivery of first of the other things just run away. That's the problem here. It's like being helpful at the beginning just to scam later.

I guess noone is having problems with price fluctuations - this is crypto.
But cheating like MsCollec did is not right. That guy is damned in the crypto community unless proven innocent. And everything he touches from now on will burn. Unless in some magical way he manages to fix what he did to Voot and Sync (the latter as a collateral damage, because he didn't actually harm that coin directly).

You pretty much summed it up.

LTCagt, I don't know if you are new to Voot or are just trying to understant what happened, but bottomline is:
MsCollec gave some promises and did not deliver on them. He hired some devs, then pumped the price and run away, tweeting that he is finished with the coin, which made the price collapse. Now because of that there is not much trust in the community. Theoretically everything should be fine, since the innovations: Voot Exchange, VootCloud and Voot Market were paid for and will be delivered by Smoke Team.

Unfortunatelly, people do not trust MsCollec anymore and ara afraid to invest more in the coin but they also believe in the innovations and are afraid to sell Voot because they still believe in it (with some exceptions). What this coin needs is:
- better communication between devs and community
- buy support (constant buy walls)
- promotion of the new featueres when the appear

I agree that probably most people jumped in at 1700 satoshi (althought probably lot of them jumped at 2000+ and some of them at 1000+).
I think that ranting will continue till the price goes back to at least 1500 satoshi and promised features will get delivered (which is 100% sure but there is too much panic in the community right now and noone trusts MsCollec).

My question is why don't We all as a community find a new developer? MsCollec has always been about Sync and Voot was a side project. We need to find a Developer that would take on Voot as their number one project.
full member
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^do you realize mscollec is supposedly still leading this project?

nope, he is laughing at you all:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8064070

are you that dumb to believe she´s laughimg at you ? you have NO POWER AT THE SYNC thread thats right - but the rest......
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