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Hello all,

I haven't contributed much on here lately but that's not to say I haven't been following all the conversations. I just wanted to chime in real quick with a couple of thoughts to add a different point of view.

First of all, I think it's ridiculous to think this forum should be shut down. All you anti-BTCtalk.org terrorist out there are giving this forum wayyyyyyy too much credit. I hope you all realize if this forum disappeared today - it wouldn't do a damn thing to help vericoin. The only reason you feel this forum is so destructive is because you empower all these FUD terrorist. Stop feeding the trolls!! I know it's a lose/lose scenario where you can either:
1. Ignore the trolls - at which point they will use that against you to only try to 'strengthen' their argument. Or...
2. Engage with the trolls - you will never win.

It's a lose/lose scenario but you know what the lesser of two evils is here? Just ignoring them.

You want to know my theory on the situation? I'd bet AltcoinUK & Barabbas have lost less money than anyone else on here. Yup that's right; they loss less many than anyone else. I could be wrong, I damn well know they will both take time to try and argue with me that I am. But I have a background in finance and I know how the human mind works when it comes to money. What I found in the profession was: the less money someone had, the louder the voice. It's counter intuitive to what you might think but when i made someone who had $5,000,000 another $500,000 I barely got a thank you. When I made someone with $30,000 another $3,000 I was all of a sudden their best friend, invited to the wedding, meet the family, etc. On the other side of the coin you take that person with $30,000 and you lose $3,000 of their money... Holy shit look out! Now you get an ear full of what they could have done with that money, why they shouldn't have listen to you, how much stress this has caused them. Basically I ruined their life... Not good. Oh and that person with $5,000,000? You drop their account by 10% sure they aren't going to be happy - but guess what? They don't bitch about it all day, everyday, for 3 fricken months.

So you look at these people who spend all day, all night on these forums bitching - for months! MONTHS! You know what that tells me? They have nothing better to do with their time. College students, maybe even high school who lost their $500 allowance for the semester and now can't buy their PBR on the weekend. People that have serious money don't spend all their free time on online forums bitching about how much they are down on their investment, you know why? Because they are busy winning at life.

What what's my point here? Those who still support Vericoin and the devs behind it need to stop worrying so much about the haters on here - counter arguing all of their points and trying to get them to convert. Just stop. The louder someone's voice - the less money they have lost. So why let some guy/gal who dropped a couple hundred dollars on crypto ruin your day? If you stop feeding the trolls - they will lose their power.

Second quick point: no the only people who are dumping are not unsatisfied investors. There are plenty of people who are still more than happy with the dev team and the way things are going who simply want to drive the price lower so they can increase their position in VRC. It's a game. Don't forget that Smiley

I actually agree with this post... 100%. Everything he said in this post is accurate IMO.

Full on... IGNORE ANYONE who can't have a civil discussion. Point blank.

And that goes for those who fully support VeriCoin too. JUST IGNORE THEM.

They only have power... if you give it to them.

Do NOT respond to them - especially if they quote your post and ramble on and on. Conspiracy this... conspiracy that.

Now... at the same time... if someone has a valid concern... and delivers that concern in a reasonable fashion - absolutely engage in a CONSTRUCTIVE dialogue.

Otherwise... ignore, ignore, ignore.

If you post something critical... and deliver your argument in a cohesive, rational manner... I will have a conversation with you.

Oh and new forums at www.VeriCoinForums.com

Have nice day!  Cool
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This thread should stay up, because people say the same thing over and over in a loop, and that makes us all dumber.  I think it's important to become dumber every day.  It's my goal every morning that I should be slightly dumber by the time I go to sleep.
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Hello
Hello all,

I haven't contributed much on here lately but that's not to say I haven't been following all the conversations. I just wanted to chime in real quick with a couple of thoughts to add a different point of view.

First of all, I think it's ridiculous to think this forum should be shut down. All you anti-BTCtalk.org terrorist out there are giving this forum wayyyyyyy too much credit. I hope you all realize if this forum disappeared today - it wouldn't do a damn thing to help vericoin. The only reason you feel this forum is so destructive is because you empower all these FUD terrorist. Stop feeding the trolls!! I know it's a lose/lose scenario where you can either:
1. Ignore the trolls - at which point they will use that against you to only try to 'strengthen' their argument. Or...
2. Engage with the trolls - you will never win.

It's a lose/lose scenario but you know what the lesser of two evils is here? Just ignoring them.

You want to know my theory on the situation? I'd bet AltcoinUK & Barabbas have lost less money than anyone else on here. Yup that's right; they loss less many than anyone else. I could be wrong, I damn well know they will both take time to try and argue with me that I am. But I have a background in finance and I know how the human mind works when it comes to money. What I found in the profession was: the less money someone had, the louder the voice. It's counter intuitive to what you might think but when i made someone who had $5,000,000 another $500,000 I barely got a thank you. When I made someone with $30,000 another $3,000 I was all of a sudden their best friend, invited to the wedding, meet the family, etc. On the other side of the coin you take that person with $30,000 and you lose $3,000 of their money... Holy shit look out! Now you get an ear full of what they could have done with that money, why they shouldn't have listen to you, how much stress this has caused them. Basically I ruined their life... Not good. Oh and that person with $5,000,000? You drop their account by 10% sure they aren't going to be happy - but guess what? They don't bitch about it all day, everyday, for 3 fricken months.

So you look at these people who spend all day, all night on these forums bitching - for months! MONTHS! You know what that tells me? They have nothing better to do with their time. College students, maybe even high school who lost their $500 allowance for the semester and now can't buy their PBR on the weekend. People that have serious money don't spend all their free time on online forums bitching about how much they are down on their investment, you know why? Because they are busy winning at life.

What what's my point here? Those who still support Vericoin and the devs behind it need to stop worrying so much about the haters on here - counter arguing all of their points and trying to get them to convert. Just stop. The louder someone's voice - the less money they have lost. So why let some guy/gal who dropped a couple hundred dollars on crypto ruin your day? If you stop feeding the trolls - they will lose their power.

Second quick point: no the only people who are dumping are not unsatisfied investors. There are plenty of people who are still more than happy with the dev team and the way things are going who simply want to drive the price lower so they can increase their position in VRC. It's a game. Don't forget that Smiley
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Supernet always delivering and progressing and Blocknet turning out to be a scam... first attempt at copying Supernet...FAIL

That's not cool. I don't think BlockNET is a scam. It could be but it's presumptuous to jump to conclusions.

If investors expect to hold VeriCoin Developers to a higher standard I think it's fair that the community follows suit.

Just my two pennies.
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If we saved anybody, it was MintPal (Jay and Jason), not Moolah. Nobody knew that Moolah was scamming anyone. I personally lost 6 figures of money from my investment back in February. Moolah got MintPal's 4M VRC cold storage wallet.

I do not understand why is this the first time the community has been made aware of this missing 4million vrc. Or why the devs would be letting him dump them on the market let alone be lining up buyers for him to dump the 4 million to? Is this the seller you had mentioned that had plenty more still to sell VeriViral?

This is now one more huge issue this coin has to deal with.

The FinCen rulings and what vericoins plans about veribits compliance with regulations that was the giant elephant in the room just became a baby elephant compared to this news about 4million vrc being stolen that was just casually mentioned here.

And one more reason why we should have/should now welcome regulation with open arms.

People knew which wallet was MintPal's-- it was listed on the block explorer. I'm not sure how we stop someone from dumping a large amount of coin on the market. This is not the seller I was trying to pair with VeriViral.

Most importantly, there's no proof that the 4M is being dumped or was dumped or will be dumped. All that we know is that MintPal said they lost all their cold wallets. And we know Moolah has them.

I have messaged you on Skype, but have not received a response. I am now posting here to clear up some of the confusion you appear to be having.

1. 0.4M VRC was used to refill the VRC hot wallet on MintPal V1.
2. Roughly 1M VRC was withdrawn when MintPal V2 was live and running.
3. Roughly 1.8M VRC has been refunded since MintPal V2 was shut down.
4. We currently hold roughly 0.7M VRC after all of the above has been deducted.
5. 0.2M VRC is currently pending withdrawal, and will be processed over the next few days (along with our other continuing withdrawals).

Ryan - Can you please list the original VeriCoin MintPal address where the 4 million VRC were located?

We can follow the BlockChain from there to validate your claim. Thx.
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The devs are working on ARCH?

They didn't even have enough time for VRC with their schooling, how in the hell can they focus on an additional coin? This is a joke.

Want a solid dev? Go look at kingscrown and EXCL. That guy makes shit happen
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If we saved anybody, it was MintPal (Jay and Jason), not Moolah. Nobody knew that Moolah was scamming anyone. I personally lost 6 figures of money from my investment back in February. Moolah got MintPal's 4M VRC cold storage wallet.

I do not understand why is this the first time the community has been made aware of this missing 4million vrc. Or why the devs would be letting him dump them on the market let alone be lining up buyers for him to dump the 4 million to? Is this the seller you had mentioned that had plenty more still to sell VeriViral?

This is now one more huge issue this coin has to deal with.

The FinCen rulings and what vericoins plans about veribits compliance with regulations that was the giant elephant in the room just became a baby elephant compared to this news about 4million vrc being stolen that was just casually mentioned here.

And one more reason why we should have/should now welcome regulation with open arms.

People knew which wallet was MintPal's-- it was listed on the block explorer. I'm not sure how we stop someone from dumping a large amount of coin on the market. This is not the seller I was trying to pair with VeriViral.

Most importantly, there's no proof that the 4M is being dumped or was dumped or will be dumped. All that we know is that MintPal said they lost all their cold wallets. And we know Moolah has them.

I have messaged you on Skype, but have not received a response. I am now posting here to clear up some of the confusion you appear to be having.

1. 0.4M VRC was used to refill the VRC hot wallet on MintPal V1.
2. Roughly 1M VRC was withdrawn when MintPal V2 was live and running.
3. Roughly 1.8M VRC has been refunded since MintPal V2 was shut down.
4. We currently hold roughly 0.7M VRC after all of the above has been deducted.
5. 0.2M VRC is currently pending withdrawal, and will be processed over the next few days (along with our other continuing withdrawals).

So, where are the other 0.5M coins? still able to withdraw? Or in the wallets Ryan controls.
Please be specific how many coins (VRC) are subject to the possible theft of Ryan and possible can be dumped.

then who is suppressing and pushing VRC down? a competitor coin?

You are quite lucky as I am here and can answer this question. Unhappy investors pushing VRC down who had enough from the empty promises and this failed operation. Let me know if you have any more questions.

Didnt this happen right after it became public devs are working on arch?
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If we saved anybody, it was MintPal (Jay and Jason), not Moolah. Nobody knew that Moolah was scamming anyone. I personally lost 6 figures of money from my investment back in February. Moolah got MintPal's 4M VRC cold storage wallet.

I do not understand why is this the first time the community has been made aware of this missing 4million vrc. Or why the devs would be letting him dump them on the market let alone be lining up buyers for him to dump the 4 million to? Is this the seller you had mentioned that had plenty more still to sell VeriViral?

This is now one more huge issue this coin has to deal with.

The FinCen rulings and what vericoins plans about veribits compliance with regulations that was the giant elephant in the room just became a baby elephant compared to this news about 4million vrc being stolen that was just casually mentioned here.

And one more reason why we should have/should now welcome regulation with open arms.

People knew which wallet was MintPal's-- it was listed on the block explorer. I'm not sure how we stop someone from dumping a large amount of coin on the market. This is not the seller I was trying to pair with VeriViral.

Most importantly, there's no proof that the 4M is being dumped or was dumped or will be dumped. All that we know is that MintPal said they lost all their cold wallets. And we know Moolah has them.

I have messaged you on Skype, but have not received a response. I am now posting here to clear up some of the confusion you appear to be having.

1. 0.4M VRC was used to refill the VRC hot wallet on MintPal V1.
2. Roughly 1M VRC was withdrawn when MintPal V2 was live and running.
3. Roughly 1.8M VRC has been refunded since MintPal V2 was shut down.
4. We currently hold roughly 0.7M VRC after all of the above has been deducted.
5. 0.2M VRC is currently pending withdrawal, and will be processed over the next few days (along with our other continuing withdrawals).

So, where are the other 0.5M coins? still able to withdraw? Or in the wallets Ryan controls.
Please be specific how many coins (VRC) are subject to the possible theft of Ryan and possible can be dumped.

then who is suppressing and pushing VRC down? a competitor coin?

You are quite lucky as I am here and can answer this question. Unhappy investors pushing VRC down who had enough from the empty promises and this failed operation. Let me know if you have any more questions.
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If we saved anybody, it was MintPal (Jay and Jason), not Moolah. Nobody knew that Moolah was scamming anyone. I personally lost 6 figures of money from my investment back in February. Moolah got MintPal's 4M VRC cold storage wallet.

I do not understand why is this the first time the community has been made aware of this missing 4million vrc. Or why the devs would be letting him dump them on the market let alone be lining up buyers for him to dump the 4 million to? Is this the seller you had mentioned that had plenty more still to sell VeriViral?

This is now one more huge issue this coin has to deal with.

The FinCen rulings and what vericoins plans about veribits compliance with regulations that was the giant elephant in the room just became a baby elephant compared to this news about 4million vrc being stolen that was just casually mentioned here.

And one more reason why we should have/should now welcome regulation with open arms.

People knew which wallet was MintPal's-- it was listed on the block explorer. I'm not sure how we stop someone from dumping a large amount of coin on the market. This is not the seller I was trying to pair with VeriViral.

Most importantly, there's no proof that the 4M is being dumped or was dumped or will be dumped. All that we know is that MintPal said they lost all their cold wallets. And we know Moolah has them.

I have messaged you on Skype, but have not received a response. I am now posting here to clear up some of the confusion you appear to be having.

1. 0.4M VRC was used to refill the VRC hot wallet on MintPal V1.
2. Roughly 1M VRC was withdrawn when MintPal V2 was live and running.
3. Roughly 1.8M VRC has been refunded since MintPal V2 was shut down.
4. We currently hold roughly 0.7M VRC after all of the above has been deducted.
5. 0.2M VRC is currently pending withdrawal, and will be processed over the next few days (along with our other continuing withdrawals).

So, where are the other 0.5M coins? still able to withdraw? Or in the wallets Ryan controls.
Please be specific how many coins (VRC) are subject to the possible theft of Ryan and possible can be dumped.

then who is suppressing and pushing VRC down? a competitor coin?
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Blockchain!!!


If we saved anybody, it was MintPal (Jay and Jason), not Moolah. Nobody knew that Moolah was scamming anyone. I personally lost 6 figures of money from my investment back in February. Moolah got MintPal's 4M VRC cold storage wallet.

I do not understand why is this the first time the community has been made aware of this missing 4million vrc. Or why the devs would be letting him dump them on the market let alone be lining up buyers for him to dump the 4 million to? Is this the seller you had mentioned that had plenty more still to sell VeriViral?

This is now one more huge issue this coin has to deal with.

The FinCen rulings and what vericoins plans about veribits compliance with regulations that was the giant elephant in the room just became a baby elephant compared to this news about 4million vrc being stolen that was just casually mentioned here.

And one more reason why we should have/should now welcome regulation with open arms.

People knew which wallet was MintPal's-- it was listed on the block explorer. I'm not sure how we stop someone from dumping a large amount of coin on the market. This is not the seller I was trying to pair with VeriViral.

Most importantly, there's no proof that the 4M is being dumped or was dumped or will be dumped. All that we know is that MintPal said they lost all their cold wallets. And we know Moolah has them.

I have messaged you on Skype, but have not received a response. I am now posting here to clear up some of the confusion you appear to be having.

1. 0.4M VRC was used to refill the VRC hot wallet on MintPal V1.
2. Roughly 1M VRC was withdrawn when MintPal V2 was live and running.
3. Roughly 1.8M VRC has been refunded since MintPal V2 was shut down.
4. We currently hold roughly 0.7M VRC after all of the above has been deducted.
5. 0.2M VRC is currently pending withdrawal, and will be processed over the next few days (along with our other continuing withdrawals).

So, where are the other 0.5M coins? still able to withdraw? Or in the wallets Ryan controls.
Please be specific how many coins (VRC) are subject to the possible theft of Ryan and possible can be dumped.
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If we saved anybody, it was MintPal (Jay and Jason), not Moolah. Nobody knew that Moolah was scamming anyone. I personally lost 6 figures of money from my investment back in February. Moolah got MintPal's 4M VRC cold storage wallet.

I do not understand why is this the first time the community has been made aware of this missing 4million vrc. Or why the devs would be letting him dump them on the market let alone be lining up buyers for him to dump the 4 million to? Is this the seller you had mentioned that had plenty more still to sell VeriViral?

This is now one more huge issue this coin has to deal with.

The FinCen rulings and what vericoins plans about veribits compliance with regulations that was the giant elephant in the room just became a baby elephant compared to this news about 4million vrc being stolen that was just casually mentioned here.

And one more reason why we should have/should now welcome regulation with open arms.

People knew which wallet was MintPal's-- it was listed on the block explorer. I'm not sure how we stop someone from dumping a large amount of coin on the market. This is not the seller I was trying to pair with VeriViral.

Most importantly, there's no proof that the 4M is being dumped or was dumped or will be dumped. All that we know is that MintPal said they lost all their cold wallets. And we know Moolah has them.

I have messaged you on Skype, but have not received a response. I am now posting here to clear up some of the confusion you appear to be having.

1. 0.4M VRC was used to refill the VRC hot wallet on MintPal V1.
2. Roughly 1M VRC was withdrawn when MintPal V2 was live and running.
3. Roughly 1.8M VRC has been refunded since MintPal V2 was shut down.
4. We currently hold roughly 0.7M VRC after all of the above has been deducted.
5. 0.2M VRC is currently pending withdrawal, and will be processed over the next few days (along with our other continuing withdrawals).
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just get in contact with bittrex and polo. They should block all transactions outgoing from the MP coldstore address and whatever address is going to be in contact with it. That should be a save way yo prevent somebody from dumping 4m coins.

If he is able to dump 4m vrc, a lot of people will lose everything they invest into vrc and trust will be gone for ever.

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If we saved anybody, it was MintPal (Jay and Jason), not Moolah. Nobody knew that Moolah was scamming anyone. I personally lost 6 figures of money from my investment back in February. Moolah got MintPal's 4M VRC cold storage wallet.

I do not understand why is this the first time the community has been made aware of this missing 4million vrc. Or why the devs would be letting him dump them on the market let alone be lining up buyers for him to dump the 4 million to? Is this the seller you had mentioned that had plenty more still to sell VeriViral?

This is now one more huge issue this coin has to deal with.

The FinCen rulings and what vericoins plans about veribits compliance with regulations that was the giant elephant in the room just became a baby elephant compared to this news about 4million vrc being stolen that was just casually mentioned here.

And one more reason why we should have/should now welcome regulation with open arms.

People knew which wallet was MintPal's-- it was listed on the block explorer. I'm not sure how we stop someone from dumping a large amount of coin on the market. This is not the seller I was trying to pair with VeriViral.

Most importantly, there's no proof that the 4M is being dumped or was dumped or will be dumped. All that we know is that MintPal said they lost all their cold wallets. And we know Moolah has them.
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Blockchain!!!
Supernet always delivering and progressing and Blocknet turning out to be a scam... first attempt at copying Supernet...FAIL

Whats up with "Blocknet turning out to be a scam..."?
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Supernet always delivering and progressing and Blocknet turning out to be a scam... first attempt at copying Supernet...FAIL
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I'm on drugs, what's your excuse?
Hi guys
I voted to keep thread open, I believe that this is where you come to start your research. As for the tone of conversation, if you can call it that anymore. It needs to be lifted out of the gutter. Come on guys we can do

better than just insult each other. To those that think Dev's have screwed the pooch, have your say then move on and post details of your coin that your releasing. I for one would be more than interested in the perfect

coin, backed by the perfect Dev's that always get it right. If I can believe what I read here there should be several coins released imminently if not before the end of the day. I mean there's been some serious bitching

going on by a few people here for quite a while now, more than enough time for them to release there version of the perfect coin. I know this because they call Dev's things like lazy, dishonest, incompetent, which must

mean that there hard working, honest, competent. So stop wasting your valuable time pointing out the faults of others, and show us your wonderful achievements.

Jon  Wink 
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Is it just me or the obvious BS this very very jay jay guy is as toxic as socal's verbal diarrhea was for VRC?

And who the fuck is thid johnny come lately individual anyway?
yes its just you...and your puppet accounts of course Wink
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Is it just me or the obvious BS this very very jay jay guy is as toxic as socal's verbal diarrhea was for VRC?

And who the fuck is thid johnny come lately individual anyway?
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Price going down and if you say something negative FUD...But you should believe that there working on projects for months now.  The only think I know being worked on is ArchCoin.  Talk is cheap if your working on something WHERE IS IT??

look at the launch date of vericoin. vericoin delivered some of the most exciting and useful technology to date and look its just a few months old. chill. if it's one thing these guys know their way around code. but i think their relationship with moolah and quite possible some investors negative feelings about the supernet may be to blame for the the slipping price. vericoin is still a strong and useful currency. just wait till the devs surprise us with something new and exciting. that's what investment is about. it's literally about 15btc across all the exchanges total to take us back to a $1m marketcap. i think its temporary. ive seen what these guys can do being here since launch and mining in pow. so im just gonna hang in there and wait to buy in at the bottom of this dip.
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Price going down and if you say something negative FUD...But you should believe that there working on projects for months now.  The only think I know being worked on is ArchCoin.  Talk is cheap if your working on something WHERE IS IT??
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