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OK, I have been away for awhile (this thread can get a bit annoying) and admit that I have not read every single post. But, from what I can gather (from the last 6 or 7 pages), these coins are going into SuperNet -- correct? They are not going into jl777's personal account -- correct?

Well, if that is the case, then the developers and whales really would be stupid (probably) to refuse this deal. The SuperNet ICO is going to have these VRC coins inside it. It will act like a closed-end fund and have an NAV (net asset value). It will more than likely trade off of its NAV for a while. (There are possible dividends and other revenue projects inside of SuperNet, but for this, let's just keep it to the basics). There is every reason to think that the NAV will increase at the start fairly rapidly, depending on certain factors, of course.

But, what I really think would help and why I am commenting at all is what is the deal, exactly? We can all research SuperNet for ourselves, so an emphasis on those details might get things bogged down a bit. What I mean is:

What is he exactly asking for?

Is he paying any amount of money from the ICO in exchange for those coins?

Is he promising to "pay back" the coins? In other words it's more like a loan?

I see that he is promising to hold the coins for three years. That seems like a good thing right there from a float point of view.

So, maybe if someone (who is not prejudiced against the deal) could give the facts in a straightforward fashion, it could really get the ball moving.

Thanks.
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https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/209
also bittrex and polo are all up
probably just coincidence the timing of the increase

I will have to make sure people know the VRC deal is not for immediate SuperNET core inclusion and it is months away.
I do not want to create a pump with unrealistic expectations, that is not sustainable
so plz do not expect BBR level effect, that was a different scenario
however I am reasonably confident of the 5x to 10x over the 1 year timeframe

James

James,

Would you mind coming to our IRC channel right now so we can talk?
i need to get some lunch, give me a bit of time
what is the IRC group?

#vericoin
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Hello
will hold for 3 years , Im in .
Great deal take it now before this "sucker"(jokin) changes his mind.
I also like that u addressed that u wont have much time to add code since your going to have your hands full with Supernet I was thinking the same thing but forgot to ask.
Everything Crystal Its a lot of coins but if they get taken of the market for 3 years thats good for Everyone . a solid investor that will hold for 3 years no matter what , those are hard to find.


i read his terms and its clear. thats the deal take it or leave it and we have 24 hrs... so you guys want to play conspiracy theorists or are we gonna try and get this done , a decision in 24 hrs then we raise 500k in another 24hrs .

IM A VOTE FOR YES so we need some whales to step forward and everyone for that matter ,even you BARABBAS as you say we would be crazy not to jump all over this , so lets go lets group up and make this happen!!


I know where we can get at least 100k for this deal Smiley

I am ready to donate 100k VRC in the next 5 minutes to support any ideas that take this coin to the next level :-)) [...] So I am keep waiting for the opportunity to show my support. :-)))
legendary
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https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/209
also bittrex and polo are all up
probably just coincidence the timing of the increase

I will have to make sure people know the VRC deal is not for immediate SuperNET core inclusion and it is months away.
I do not want to create a pump with unrealistic expectations, that is not sustainable
so plz do not expect BBR level effect, that was a different scenario
however I am reasonably confident of the 5x to 10x over the 1 year timeframe

James

James,

Would you mind coming to our IRC channel right now so we can talk?
i need to get some lunch, give me a bit of time
what is the IRC group?
hero member
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https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/209
also bittrex and polo are all up
probably just coincidence the timing of the increase

I will have to make sure people know the VRC deal is not for immediate SuperNET core inclusion and it is months away.
I do not want to create a pump with unrealistic expectations, that is not sustainable
so plz do not expect BBR level effect, that was a different scenario
however I am reasonably confident of the 5x to 10x over the 1 year timeframe

James
as long as the vericoin is in escrow then its good either way...coins will be staking and off the market.
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https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/209
also bittrex and polo are all up
probably just coincidence the timing of the increase

I will have to make sure people know the VRC deal is not for immediate SuperNET core inclusion and it is months away.
I do not want to create a pump with unrealistic expectations, that is not sustainable
so plz do not expect BBR level effect, that was a different scenario
however I am reasonably confident of the 5x to 10x over the 1 year timeframe

James

James,

Would you mind coming to our IRC channel right now so we can talk?
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1134
https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/209
also bittrex and polo are all up
probably just coincidence the timing of the increase

I will have to make sure people know the VRC deal is not for immediate SuperNET core inclusion and it is months away.
I do not want to create a pump with unrealistic expectations, that is not sustainable
so plz do not expect BBR level effect, that was a different scenario
however I am reasonably confident of the 5x to 10x over the 1 year timeframe

James
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vrc is pumping just by the talks of this deal being a possibility ... think about it... the superNET ipo starts any hr and that will raise thousands of btc... these vericoins being raised for james will be in escrow for a very long time... so he's not making a penny off vericoin unless he delivers and he's about to bring in a ton of btc (keep that in mind)  , were safe with the coins in escrow ,its a win win , so lets do this! I'm no whale either but i have a nice chunk to donate Smiley
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will hold for 3 years , Im in .
Great deal take it now before this "sucker"(jokin) changes his mind.
I also like that u addressed that u wont have much time to add code since your going to have your hands full with Supernet I was thinking the same thing but forgot to ask.
Everything Crystal Its a lot of coins but if they get taken of the market for 3 years thats good for Everyone . a solid investor that will hold for 3 years no matter what , those are hard to find.


i read his terms and its clear. thats the deal take it or leave it and we have 24 hrs... so you guys want to play conspiracy theorists or are we gonna try and get this done , a decision in 24 hrs then we raise 500k in another 24hrs .

IM A VOTE FOR YES so we need some whales to step forward and everyone for that matter ,even you BARABBAS as you say we would be crazy not to jump all over this , so lets go lets group up and make this happen!!



I have a lot of respect for James.  I've been tracking him since NXT and as soon as I found out he was working on BTCD, I bought some BTCD, too.  From everything I can tell, he's a fantastic developer and a really hard working.

Now, I'm not a whale, but maybe a large guppy?  I am willing to make a decent contribution and I think we should move forward with this project.  Can we have people hop into the IRC channel so we can discuss?  What do the devs think?

James, just to be clear... I tried to catch up on the thread as best as I could, but you're looking for how many VRC?  Was it 2%?  5.2 million?  That does seem like a lot...

Thanks for your consideration, James.

Sorry, I guess it's too early for math for me.  2% would be about 520k...?
no we need 10%
but its in escrow for a year until he delivers which also keeps them off exchanges and staking... its so long term for him to get paid anything, i see it as a win win for vericoin... I'm almost positive the price will go even higher and much quicker than expected.

hero member
Activity: 966
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will hold for 3 years , Im in .
Great deal take it now before this "sucker"(jokin) changes his mind.
I also like that u addressed that u wont have much time to add code since your going to have your hands full with Supernet I was thinking the same thing but forgot to ask.
Everything Crystal Its a lot of coins but if they get taken of the market for 3 years thats good for Everyone . a solid investor that will hold for 3 years no matter what , those are hard to find.


i read his terms and its clear. thats the deal take it or leave it and we have 24 hrs... so you guys want to play conspiracy theorists or are we gonna try and get this done , a decision in 24 hrs then we raise 500k in another 24hrs .

IM A VOTE FOR YES so we need some whales to step forward and everyone for that matter ,even you BARABBAS as you say we would be crazy not to jump all over this , so lets go lets group up and make this happen!!



I have a lot of respect for James.  I've been tracking him since NXT and as soon as I found out he was working on BTCD, I bought some BTCD, too.  From everything I can tell, he's a fantastic developer and a really hard working.

Now, I'm not a whale, but maybe a large guppy?  I am willing to make a decent contribution and I think we should move forward with this project.  Can we have people hop into the IRC channel so we can discuss?  What do the devs think?

James, just to be clear... I tried to catch up on the thread as best as I could, but you're looking for how many VRC?  Was it 2%?  5.2 million?  That does seem like a lot...

Thanks for your consideration, James.

Sorry, I guess it's too early for math for me.  2% would be about 520k...?
no we need 10%
hero member
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will hold for 3 years , Im in .
Great deal take it now before this "sucker"(jokin) changes his mind.
I also like that u addressed that u wont have much time to add code since your going to have your hands full with Supernet I was thinking the same thing but forgot to ask.
Everything Crystal Its a lot of coins but if they get taken of the market for 3 years thats good for Everyone . a solid investor that will hold for 3 years no matter what , those are hard to find.



5-10% of coins off market with other large investors holding. That alone will cause the price to jump. Mere discussion of the deal has raised price/volume in the short amount of time its been announced.
agreed 100%
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will hold for 3 years , Im in .
Great deal take it now before this "sucker"(jokin) changes his mind.
I also like that u addressed that u wont have much time to add code since your going to have your hands full with Supernet I was thinking the same thing but forgot to ask.
Everything Crystal Its a lot of coins but if they get taken of the market for 3 years thats good for Everyone . a solid investor that will hold for 3 years no matter what , those are hard to find.


i read his terms and its clear. thats the deal take it or leave it and we have 24 hrs... so you guys want to play conspiracy theorists or are we gonna try and get this done , a decision in 24 hrs then we raise 500k in another 24hrs .

IM A VOTE FOR YES so we need some whales to step forward and everyone for that matter ,even you BARABBAS as you say we would be crazy not to jump all over this , so lets go lets group up and make this happen!!



I have a lot of respect for James.  I've been tracking him since NXT and as soon as I found out he was working on BTCD, I bought some BTCD, too.  From everything I can tell, he's a fantastic developer and a really hard working.

Now, I'm not a whale, but maybe a large guppy?  I am willing to make a decent contribution and I think we should move forward with this project.  Can we have people hop into the IRC channel so we can discuss?  What do the devs think?

James, just to be clear... I tried to catch up on the thread as best as I could, but you're looking for how many VRC?  Was it 2%?  5.2 million?  That does seem like a lot...

Thanks for your consideration, James.

Sorry, I guess it's too early for math for me.  2% would be about 520k...?
legendary
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James is the real deal.  He touches it, it turns to gold.  Don't have to take my word, go read the forums he listed, they shout success.
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will hold for 3 years , Im in .
Great deal take it now before this "sucker"(jokin) changes his mind.
I also like that u addressed that u wont have much time to add code since your going to have your hands full with Supernet I was thinking the same thing but forgot to ask.
Everything Crystal Its a lot of coins but if they get taken of the market for 3 years thats good for Everyone . a solid investor that will hold for 3 years no matter what , those are hard to find.



5-10% of coins off market with other large investors holding. That alone will cause the price to jump. Mere discussion of the deal has raised price/volume in the short amount of time its been announced.
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will hold for 3 years , Im in .
Great deal take it now before this "sucker"(jokin) changes his mind.
I also like that u addressed that u wont have much time to add code since your going to have your hands full with Supernet I was thinking the same thing but forgot to ask.
Everything Crystal Its a lot of coins but if they get taken of the market for 3 years thats good for Everyone . a solid investor that will hold for 3 years no matter what , those are hard to find.


i read his terms and its clear. thats the deal take it or leave it and we have 24 hrs... so you guys want to play conspiracy theorists or are we gonna try and get this done , a decision in 24 hrs then we raise 500k in another 24hrs .

IM A VOTE FOR YES so we need some whales to step forward and everyone for that matter ,even you BARABBAS as you say we would be crazy not to jump all over this , so lets go lets group up and make this happen!!



I have a lot of respect for James.  I've been tracking him since NXT and as soon as I found out he was working on BTCD, I bought some BTCD, too.  From everything I can tell, he's a fantastic developer and a really hard working.

Now, I'm not a whale, but maybe a large guppy?  I am willing to make a decent contribution and I think we should move forward with this project.  Can we have people hop into the IRC channel so we can discuss?  What do the devs think?

James, just to be clear... I tried to catch up on the thread as best as I could, but you're looking for how many VRC?  Was it 2%?  5.2 million?  That does seem like a lot...

Thanks for your consideration, James.
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It's very early in the US. Somebody has to wake up our devs
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will hold for 3 years , Im in .
Great deal take it now before this "sucker"(jokin) changes his mind.
I also like that u addressed that u wont have much time to add code since your going to have your hands full with Supernet I was thinking the same thing but forgot to ask.
Everything Crystal Its a lot of coins but if they get taken of the market for 3 years thats good for Everyone . a solid investor that will hold for 3 years no matter what , those are hard to find.


i read his terms and its clear. thats the deal take it or leave it and we have 24 hrs... so you guys want to play conspiracy theorists or are we gonna try and get this done , a decision in 24 hrs then we raise 500k in another 24hrs .

IM A VOTE FOR YES so we need some whales to step forward and everyone for that matter ,even you BARABBAS as you say we would be crazy not to jump all over this , so lets go lets group up and make this happen!!

legendary
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will hold for 3 years , Im in .
Great deal take it now before this "sucker"(jokin) changes his mind.
I also like that u addressed that u wont have much time to add code since your going to have your hands full with Supernet I was thinking the same thing but forgot to ask.
Everything Crystal Its a lot of coins but if they get taken of the market for 3 years thats good for Everyone . a solid investor that will hold for 3 years no matter what , those are hard to find.

legendary
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Okay James. You want to do a deal? We need FULL transparency, a whitepaper or spec sheet summarizing exactly what "superNET" is exactly and most importantly - what it does for VeriCoin - the brand - specifically.
Regardless of your skill set or the platform that you're creating… you are asking for a LOT of money. Period.

You want to do business - do it legit. Let's hammer out a reasonable deal that makes sense for BOTH sides - but not until you respect OUR terms as well.

Aside from Ethereum and your (very vague) superNET… there are other REALLY interesting decentralization projects and platforms already in the works. Including decentralized exchanges and marketplaces.
*And these guys aren't anonymous or asking for exuberant sums of VeriCoin.

VeriCoin is aimed directly for the masses. Your deal isn't going to make or break this coin… whatsoever as we have massive plans for the long term span of this coin AND this community.
Why should we hire an anonymous coder when we could literally take the same money and hire someone who isn't so vague?

How do you want to do this? I have Skype. Hell I'd even give you my personal number. We ARE interested but we won't be bullied or coerced into something that can potentially be a scam etc.

Personally I don't see why you don't just buy in VeriCoin right now… at these RIDICULOUSLY low prices… join the team (or deliver the code) and THEN legitimately make a profit from it.
That's a WIN/WIN for both sides AND it's GOOD business.


Jay Jay
@VeryVeriViral


Please research me in NXT and BTCD threads and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762346.940
github.com/jl777/libjl777 has just 20,000 of my 40,000 lines I wrote since march
MGW is already in production and NXT AE is almost in the top 10 of all exchanges
JLH was the first crypto asset to trade on an exchange
I tripled a small 1500 BTC sharkfund0 in a bit more than three months
I did a 100x on BTCD marketcap in 6 weeks and about $7 million of marketcap gains
I have made NXT investors over 150 million NXT profits in 4 months
My announcing that BBR might join SuperNET did this: https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_bbr look at it on ALL timeframe and guess when I announced. It went from a few BTC per day volume to 100+ BTC and #2 in polovolume
If you need more proof of my skills, you can ask chanc3r who has 20+ years of relevant tech experience and reviewed my MGW.

I have proven myself, at least I believe I have. If this is not enough, then please reject this deal and my commitment to honor the deal has been satisfied and I can close this thread. I am doing this because I promised drkman that I would, no other reason. If the VRC community supports me then despite my reluctance I will do my best. With the management of SuperNET and the coding I still have to do, my preference is that the VRC community reject this as this deal structure is not consistent with SuperNET model and it will cause some confusions

James

How about we add a little Line to your deal like , After u Buy them from the escrow u will commit to Not Sell Any for at least 6 months after the escrow criteria are met ?
Or leave them @ the escrow for another 6 months.
U should understand that its a HUGE ammount of the Total coins , I personally wouldnt see any benifit to u dumping them But it never hurts to get a little insurance.
Im all for this deal But you are kinda turning into Bow Jackson , "i like to talk about myself in 3rd person"(the JL effect if u will) that kind of stuff wich scares me a little.
Also Darkman How did this go from 500k to so much more all of a sudden ?

I can commit to not selling for 3 years from today
If more time is needed for the community, then I can extend it a bit, but I need closure on this so if the fund raising drys up it needs to be declared a NO-GO
we can use some common sense to figure this out.
so if on any given day X comes in, we can project when it will be completed
if this project date is beyond 2 weeks from now for 2 days in a row, it is a NO-GO
legendary
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@jl777 are you willing to negotiate ,cause the truth is it might be impossible to raise such an amount? somewhere between 500-800k seems like something the community can pull off especially if we got a little help from the devs.
maybe the interest can stay in the escrow instead of going to a fund.. just a thought
the entire amount will be in escrow and all staking donated to a community fund
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