Topic: [ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released - page 424. (Read 1356146 times)

That's not just fine and dandy and long overdue, but it also leaves out how much profit you make while "...working to support and spread VRC adoption, along with Physical Vericoins..." which should be an important consideration on behalf of the desired transparency in this coin. You should remove yourself from the equation, AFTER answering the specific question.

TO The VRC Community:

Apparently there has been some sort of misunderstanding, I AM NOT A DEV OF VERICOIN, I am just a supporter of Vericoin because I believe in the Devs and the future of VRC.

I probably have come off a little strong to some in my defense of VRC and in "conversations" with others and for that I apologize. I realize I have probably been a bit over zealous and as such will now be refraining from posting in this thread unless it has something to do important VRC news or VRC projects.

I do not wish for others to blame the Devs or Vericoin for my almost fanatical defense and devotion to VRC and so as such will remove myself from the equation.

I will continue to work to support and spread VRC adoption, along with Physical Vericoins and the like but will no longer partake in any "small talk" or the like on this thread.

I hope you all can see that what I have said was on ME and not in anyway affiliated with the Devs beliefs or feelings.

TO The VRC Community:

Apparently there has been some sort of misunderstanding, I AM NOT A DEV OF VERICOIN, I am just a supporter of Vericoin because I believe in the Devs and the future of VRC.

I probably have come off a little strong to some in my defense of VRC and in "conversations" with others and for that I apologize. I realize I have probably been a bit over zealous and as such will now be refraining from posting in this thread unless it has something to do important VRC news or VRC projects.

I do not wish for others to blame the Devs or Vericoin for my almost fanatical defense and devotion to VRC and so as such will remove myself from the equation.

I will continue to work to support and spread VRC adoption, along with Physical Vericoins and the like but will no longer partake in any "small talk" or the like on this thread.

I hope you all can see that what I have said was on ME and not in anyway affiliated with the Devs beliefs or feelings.

As someone who moderates in the irc and is the unofficial liaison, toning down the anger could help bring in more interested in the coin.

Outside the developers, there is no official anything at the moment. There are plenty of members of the community that are contributing greatly, but they do not represent the development of the coin.

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Might want to invest in a domain name. And a better server set-up that serves node on port 80.....

In general, I agree with you in what you just posted.

But lets not kid ourselves: As you and anyone can easily see, the personal emotional levels, as well as past histories will come forward at any instance of conflict. It's just the nature of the internet beast. And the crypto coins, where the unabashed fan boys will make of their support a blind religion inevitably in conflict with those who, even if interested or even supportive, choose -or are bound to have- a more discriminatory approach.

I have supported this dev team because they came out clean and I believe -at the risk of maybe be proven wrong, who knows- what they have said so far is true. But not ALL that they have said and definitely not all of what they have done, is deserving of my personal support. And this is a forum where everyone should be entitled to post whatever they want related to a coin they are invested in. Everyone here is tired and sick already of the "roll back" conversation, so no need to bring it back... unless it is as a reference. people well known in the crypto world have been very critical of the "roll back", like Bryce Weiner, for instance. Or the Lee guy from Litecoin. The entire fanboy club at Blackcoin was, for days, circling the wagons here, as the carrion vultures they have proven to be -long before VRC-. Yes it is positive to, at some point, ignore your enemies, but what you cannot do -or I believe that you shouldn't do- is pretending like the reasons for the confrontation have disappeared. Because they have not. Mr. Lee may "have a reason" to so severely attack Nokster publicly, but that is his reason just like mine -and tens of thousands of others- to defend what the dev team was forced to do, the rollback. But Lee and me (and the rest that adheres to that position) have very solid opinions that happen to be irreconcilable, so no amount of pictures at conventions, nor "family dispenses" will change that. We are, in fact, in direct opposite parts of a situation: Lee wants to defend the traditional position, by which VRC would have disappeared, a thief would have made a lot of money for thieving without any accountability, and Mr. Lee would have continue going merrily about his life wille thousands of investors would have lost all of their investments. Me and many others, on the other side of that spectrum, support actions by the devs that safeguarded the coin, the investment, left the thief without a penny from his thievery and, more importantly, set ANOTHER new standard by which measures would be taken in the event of major thievery... which is something many, many people support.

In other words, you cannot please all the people all the time. And you MUST stand your ground if you want to show conviction in your acts. YOU MUST CHOOSE SIDES.

By the same token, posing for pictures with Rokhlin HAS implications. He has a most than muddy past (and present). He is a scammer, as posted everywhere on these forums. Posing with him is not exactly an endorsement of his activities, that is clear, but it is more of that than a condemnation of them, isn't it? You may believe the many charges or may not, that's up to you personally, but as a dev team for VRC you must take all these circumstances into consideration.

I believe the market is flat, after Chicago, in no small part due to these confusing actions by the devs who amount, in some way, to throw the stone but somewhat try to hide the hand. The community have supported their decisions fully. They should represent the community who paid for them to be in Chicago, NOT to "get along" with their most acerbic critics of those who can easily dirty the reputation of Vericoin.

Being the good guys doesn't come without a cost, as you can see.

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I've brought it up before, but if any other coin wanted to dig up dirt on VeriCoin(us) they can look no further than Socal, who apparently has some sort of title with the devs. Makes me ashamed as well with what was said. I suggested to him that he can simply sign into another account and say whatever he wants, so if he doesn't have the restraint to do that, why is he part of the community team for a coin with a $6mil+ market cap?

Outside the developers, there is no official anything at the moment. There are plenty of members of the community that are contributing greatly, but they do not represent the development of the coin.

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Hey man i just want to throw you some advice. This is just coming from me, so take it for what it's worth. I know I hate free advice when it's not asked for, so I should probably just keep my mouth shut. But meh, I can't keep quiet anymore.

You need to realize you represent a brand and in doing so, you need to learn to control your anger. I have only been following this coin really for about a month now, closely, and I have to say you have been a big turn off for me.  You constantly tell people to fuck off, shut up, or go away. I go by a different user name in the IRC channel but on multiple occasions you've given me lip when I've tried to bring up legitimate concerns. I know altcoins aren't a business but the reality is; every time you open your mouth you're speaking on behalf of vericoin. To investors, potential investors and community supporters. Please keep that in mind. If it's YOUR JOB to be the liaison between people and the devs... well I think the devs have made a poor choice in having you represent their coin.

You need to learn how to act professional, shut your mouth, and be kind to others when you are representing a brand. I can say whatever the fuck I want because I'm the customer. When I'm at my job, representing my company - I put on my game face. If someone tells me to fuck off I simply smile and say thank you. It's not that people don't get under my skin but again when you are REPRESENTING A BRAND you need to shut your mouth and keep your thoughts to yourself.

I would seriously punch you in the face if I was standing next to you in person and heard your point #3 in regards to our Presidents. I'm as red as it gets when it comes to politics and have pretty much disagreed with 100% of Obama's decisions. But I still have too much respect for Mr. President to call him what you did. There are plenty of other people in this world that would sacrifice everything they have to be part of this country. If you're SO unhappy with all of our Presidents, why don't you just please leave our country - I think we'd be just fine without you.