Topic: [ANN]XDE II coin.NOW 300% POS for a few months. 4hr min stake, only 100k coins. - page 153. (Read 228470 times)

We are deciding weather to create a Platinum community wallet that will reward those that support  XDE2 or burn unclaimed coins. I know you want to know which way to go. Thats why you want the burn address to see which way you should go. You need to go with your heart man. My advice to you is hold your xde, and watch. It will be VERY obvious which way to go. If we create a community wallet , team members are exempt from getting rewards from it. It will be handouts to the community for supporting XDE2. Frankly I dont favor one way or another as I dont benefit either way. I need to hear intelligent feedback on this. This would be a way to balance the community and the team members.

Vegas

You now have the best of both worlds. You can stay with XDE or choose XDE2 for as long as you want. Keep in mind, the longer you wait, the less you compound. I will respectfully not post anything negative about xde, or its holders in my thread, and I will ask you do the same with XDE2 here. We CAN co-exist, even if we dont agree. I LOVE Xde, and always have. Lets respect each other, even if we dont agree. All my wishes to all XDE holders. You can actually begin the swap of your old xde now. Keep in mind you wont receive any xde2 until January 23rd. PM me.

We are going to move forward as planned.

5 Platinum wallets for each team member
53 coins for each team member
1 community platinum wallet for giveaways, promotions, late swaps, gifts ect. Team members are EXEMPT from getting anything from this ever. Its for the community, and to make things more balanced and fair.

XDEII will be legendary. Getting paid what we are actually worth. As always our team will put our heart and soul into this, non stop, and make it better EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!!

Thats it.

Vegas

Vegas, I promise you here and now, that I will always on your side!

Greetz
Meta

Thanks Placebo , reality is I do need my team. Thats the truth. I would expect a swap from you too man. Show me some love bro!!

Vegas

Well... It shouldnt matter to you. Your staying with XDE. I respect that. Good luck to you sir, and you are STILL welcome to swap anytime. Anyone is.

Vegas

Vegas did it again!!! Why do he needs a team? he can better run the coin all by himself.

only 3.3 xde to buy at low price on yobit

constructive criticism was never a cause for removing! The trolls and FUD is the cause, that we made a selfmod-topic!

Greetz
Meta

Then I am out. Point. Final.
This is a hostile overtaking of a coin, to hide huge premine and unfair conditions to the current holders.
Why don't you start a new coin with a similar premine? The answer is simple: nobody would have bought it.
You are hiding here behind XDE community, but in reality your intentions are clear.

PS. I provided suggestions how to fix this situation, yet you decided to ignore it completely. DOn't use the excuse that it is hard to please everyone, as you never had the intention to please anybody but your 'team'.

PS2. I post the copy of the same message in the original topic in case you remove it.

if the team is working hard then premine of 10% is all ok. Remember how long do you think that you can work with 4 BTC? $1000 / $10 (per hour) = 100 hours / 4 hours per day. 25 days and money is gone.

IF a team is working hard enough then they can receive or they should receive a nice amount that cover their hours worked on the coin, you cannot expect DEV to work hours and hours for nothing.

$10 per hour should be a normal price, so if the team is planning to work 1000 hours then they should have a premine of $10,000, if they will work 500 hours then they need a premine of $5,000.

I think I fully agree to this proposal.
1% premined XDE2 and GOLD Wallets for each team member  / 1% premined XDE2 and one PLatinum to the Main Dev (Mr. VegasGuy) and the rest of the Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (Auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund for further Development!)- And all unclaimed XDE2 will be burned.
Go ahead! And don't Feed the Haters!

Edit: Addition: All the 5% Premined Coins hold by the Dev Team  should not be sold within a period of time (assured by multisig and transparent addresses)

-Alt





I didn't say only 1% . I said "5% Premined Coins hold by the Dev Team/GOLD Wallets for each team member AND one PLatinum to the Main Dev (Mr. VegasGuy) and the rest of the Platinum Wallets to sell by public sale (Auction) in BTC (which directly goes to development fund for further Development!)- And all unclaimed XDE2 will be burned.!!

So you have much more staking rewards! And will have a BIG DEV FUND for all Kind of DEV Stuff.

Short Math:

If each team member gets 25 XDE2 = 125 XDE2
and we assume that 50 % XDE (52.5 XDE) will be swapped to XDE2 (x 7)= 367.5 XDE2 + 125 XDE2 for Team Members >> 492.5 XDE2  Starting amount of coins  and 507.5 will be burned.
In that case Dev Team will hold about 25% of the float/ moneysupply!!!

Tell me how much the Dev Team gets in Percent from the total Float (after the swap will be finished)!
I will be ok with 1.5 - 2% each Team Member and Gold Wallets for each team Member
7.5 - 10% PREMINE is not normal!!! In that Case I will be ok with it.

-Alt

That is the Vegasguy effect, he is brilliant, he knows what he is doing. 99% of the increase in XDE II is because of Vegasguy,(i would even say 100%) people know what he can do and what he did with FLY. People see the name Vegasguy and they buy.

105 old XDE x 0.55 BTC ~ 58 BTC! AFTER our begin to work in XDE!
2 weeks before = XDE was DEAD, DEAD and DEAD with a spread of over 3000%. It was so dead, that this coin is not listed on coinmarketcap!

It is worth 0.55 BTC on Yobit, so i don't want to say that it is nothing..and more then 1 BTC was traded today.

Yes, of course, dev/team need some money to work on a coin, but a total of 100 BTC based on current marketvalue is pretty high unless some magic innovation will happen

XDE I actually worth nothing, because dead!

So we risk it to swap from zero to zero! Its our risk also to make this swap and to bring in new life for XDE! So its normal business, that these guys, which bring back life and make it happy, earn the most!
We swap 1:7. So ur calculation is wrong from the beginning...

Just for ur remember:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13465361

The 5 team members working on XDEII will get 53 XDE II coins each from the premine, and each get Platinum wallets.

That is a very big amount of coins... 53 XDE? more then 20 BTC worth in coins. How can investors be sure that those coins won't be sold? Will those coins be locked for a period of time? And is there someone allocated to make sure that those coins doesn't hit the market? A exchange for example?

XDE II on facebook?

It is true, he will reward those who are helpful.  Good guy, Vegas!

OHH..comon mObLOBScHAr...a little help!!

I AM looking at being a future investor in XDEII and I can see both sides here. Vegas and his TEAM deserve to get a bit larger piece of the pie, hence, my suggestion of 25/Gold. It is a cut from what the TEAM wanted, but it keeps the 'old' holders from losing it all. Some won't like it, some won't swap, but none helped to save XDE either, so....

I was a Union Contract Negotiator for a number of years, & for a couple of different Unions. I know that there is a compromise here. It won't please everyone...but will work out for both sides in the long-term. Vegas, if you want to put your foot down, be careful of the toes you step on. Not for the nay-sayers, but for yourself. In your heart, you know what is best. With all the energy your Team has put in, would you be able to look in the mirror, down the road, and smile at what was accomplished? Or would you just see the 'Greedy Green Eyes' staring back?

Be fair. Make it the 25/Gold and let everyone live with it. I think you'll see a smile shooting back to you in that mirror.    

CapnBDL
    

Acts of generosity and kindness. You have my FULL permission to contact ANYONE in these messages and verify its authenticity:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13413107    Message #2796
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13412594    Message #2794
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13411302    Message #2785
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13360183    Message #2669 Gave away 400 FLY to about 20 people for Christmas. About $500 +/-
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13148755      Sent crestington $200 in btc to help the guy out. Asked for nothing in return.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12897233    Spent 5 hours of my time , fixing his wallet. No charge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12812132    This guy was hacked. Never met him before in my life. Just that he was devistated from a hacked wallet. Gave him .4 BTC of fly.