Topic: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer - page 128. (Read 450523 times)

Once I am finished with everything and have brought everything to a point that it all works, I am outta here.

I am dedicating a large portion of my life for this, many hours per day where others go swimming or watch some movies, and I really try to get everything right. And if something comes up that was not planned, I hit the reset button and do it over - just because I want to make it perfect for you guys.

But the more I do, the more people demand from me without even honoring what I have done so far. And if I need a few days longer I naturally become the asshole.

What once began like a fun and thrilling project becomes a true burden. I don't even like to come here anymore, because all I read is "mainnet?" "why is no documentation there?" "why is not this and that there?" "where are you? You have not reported to me for 2 days".

Regarding the status: almost done! The thing is ... do we want it "working somehow" or "working well". The working "somehow" is ready right now, the "well" needs some more testing over the weekend. We have supernodes for a day ... I don't feel comfortable to NOT test it well.

please just launch it to stop these annoying questions on every new page...

How many coins we need to to raise the node?

EK said we'd have documentation for PR, website, marketing, etc. on the 26th of last month.  There's been no mention of it since.

Mainnet is important. We should first stop bashing every user for asking for obvious things (like mainet or testnet or exchanges) and it's not important if he is newcomer or oldboy. Actually I wondering what keeping us from launching mainnet (coin). I have some thoughts that @EK need to implement full functionality of miner into core (coin + miner) and if he don't do this now we will need lot of hard forks. That's why we are waiting for ready product that long. But for the other hand, lot of coins had lot of hard forks. Easiest example here is NXT (and we are fork of NXT to the reminder) which had countless number of hard forks and non of it was direct couse of some bad things (I mean broken network). Key here is to inform exchanges about it. Next PoS example should be first PoS coin Peercoin, they had numerous of HFs and every time HF went smoothly.

I (and every of you including @EK) don't know when testnet will be alive and more important, when mainnet. And this is actually sad.

Golem is doing this right way - exchanges ASAP to rise as much interest during development. It's awesome and big surprise that @coralreefer and other joined Elastic without any existence in the world (i.e. position in coinmarketcap.com). Biggest awareness about Golem coming from coinmarketcap.com, from there articles started pop up (journalists were interested in new thing or simply Golem Team paid them) and average John Doe started to looking what this new thing is.

Again, I don't know why we can't launch mainnet (coin) to this date (maybe @EK, @coralreefer or others know). And I hope testnet will be soon live with new basecode to feed users and @EK will be helpful with content that should fill elastic official website. Right now I can't launch any website, I don't have scientific content and I don't want to write how I feel Elastic work or should work.

Let's welcome questions ( specially from newcomers) . We are a new name and we have to keep it professional in every aspect. Using BS and other threatening words and creating an environment of fear would only show our weakness. So , please be polite and don't leave messages while drinking  ( just a joke)

I wouldn't give a crap about what is happening on the market.

Additionally, could we please stop talking about when we should go mainnet, that we need a roadmap and all that bullshit? It's done when it's done.

Don't want to rush anyone.. and testing is important.. But I think it would be beneficial if XEL would be launched asap in this insanely bullish altcoin market. More eyes will be on alts and that would really help Elastic in the long run.

Has testing started yet ? And please , can someone write the instructions on how to do the testing if it's ready ?

@EK :
How start elastic-core without fund ?

I tried with current git version but there're no peers on the network - the only thing you can test is just the basic wallet features.
Also, the faucet wasn't working for me, so for testing one could try to redeem XEL from genesis, however, it might be dangerous at this point.

Thanks For The Answer Tom.

my bad, SN are being implemented, once that happens we can start doing some serious testing. FYI also anyone can download testnet even now and start playing around but not all features are there

?? there has been a update yesterday

Has anybody started testing yet?

Has the heavy testing started ?

Been a while since the last official update...maybe the quite before the storm 

I'd say, the requirements for all SNs would need to be high enough to make it reliably process all network jobs. Obviously, it highly depends on the number of SNs, number of regular nodes, and the network workload. I guess EK has an idea how to balance all of this, otherwise he probably wouldn't implement this idea right?

As far as I know, supernodes are supposed to be reliably online, maintain a large XEL deposit as a sign of relative trustworthiness, and accept running novel foreign code (an aspect which should be safe in the restricted language used but still such that some places would feel more comfortable just running a regular node instead).

Yet the actual hardware requirements are apparently not really super extreme.  At least back on January 24th, EK made a reference to work using 5 gigabytes of RAM memory (on top of ordinary use by the operating system and so on, of course).

Since 16GB and 32GB RAM desktops are not uncommon among recent models today, that wouldn't be much at all.  The supernode vs regular node hardware requirements difference may not be "super extreme" versus "ordinary" so much as "mildly high" versus "okay even if really mediocre and outdated."  Of course, the adjectives are my own, not EK's, not a quote.

I don't know if exactly the 5 GB example is still representative.

But my earlier comment was mainly just based on the following: I think EK is coding supernodes to run on what he already has now, as the only easy way to do development and testing.  He is not programming them in a manner which would require him to get much different hardware.  There would be no reason to do the latter, as he chooses the expected complexity and memory requirements of work packages, which were originally going to be scaled down to even relatively mediocre computers.

For a fully specific answer with exact numbers, we might need to wait for EK to announce it when he is done coding.  I am no real expert, just a bystander.  Yet I bet it will be that just about any 16GB RAM (or maybe even 8GB) computer with permanent internet access could do it, if willing to have a large portion of system resources consumed running the software.

I've been wondering what the specs would be to run an SN, now core software & SN.

Can I ask what you think would be the specs for a system to run the software, approximately.