Topic: [ANN][XEL] Elastic Project - The Decentralized Supercomputer - page 135. (Read 450523 times)

I do love XEL. But I don't like unnecessary hype, which causes people to panic buy, then panic blame/sell. Best to be realistic and constructively critical.

Working product? Let's not claim working product until:

1) it's actually launched
2) it's used to solve real problems

Just having a working product is not enough, we also need a good portfolio of use cases / case studies.

Answer me this: What is the main problem XEL could solve?
(In its current about to be released form, not talking about speculation of what is possible down the road)

don't call cryptopia a scam exchange.
maybe you've mixed up it with C-Cex.

cryptopia would be a good choice for the start.
listing costs 1.000.000 DOT (cryptopias own currency)
that's about 0.2 BTC atm

another option would be livecoin

What about exchanges after launch? Is there a plan how community can reach some good exchanges as Bittrex?

I've heard that Bittrex charge 3 BTC to add a coin to their exchange.
Of course, there are cheaper "scam" exchanges like Yobit, Cryptopia etc, but that is not a deal at all.

Until EK documents what Elastic is capable of and provides use case examples, we can't let the world know what an amazing project this is.

In order to get people to actually use Elastic and therefore prove its viability we need to be able to target the potential users.

Until we get that information from EK, we can't target potential users and the world will remain totally unaware of what we have.

Normally PR is run alongside development, so the developers can get on with developing and the members of the community that are interested in promoting the software can do just that.

In this case, the only person that knows what has been developed is EK and the rest of the community has to wait until EK informs us about what he has developed, before we can act as a community and promote the software that he has so diligently developed.

cross posting!

i agree hype can cause some ppl react purely emotional and cause some economical damage, however imo hype (pump) is the best PR in cryptoworld. without it projects like xmr, dash, even ltc and btc would never get exposed to such wide userbase and get some kind of mass adoption.  working product without exposure will stay under radar for long time, so long until something comes along and replace it!! so from my experience hype (pump) is necessary evil for project to get exposed and adopted.

Problem that XEL solves? how about cheap computation power we all crave to have access to! although XEL devs don't like to promote it, elastic best selling point imo would be CPU/GPU mining/solving other cryptocurrencies.

I do love XEL. But I don't like unnecessary hype, which causes people to panic buy, then panic blame/sell. Best to be realistic and constructively critical.

Working product? Let's not claim working product until:

1) it's actually launched
2) it's used to solve real problems

Just having a working product is not enough, we also need a good portfolio of use cases / case studies.

Answer me this: What is the main problem XEL could solve?
(In its current about to be released form, not talking about speculation of what is possible down the road)

I do love XEL. But I don't like unnecessary hype, which causes people to panic buy, then panic blame/sell. Best to be realistic and constructively critical.

Working product? Let's not claim working product until:

1) it's actually launched
2) it's used to solve real problems

Just having a working product is not enough, we also need a good portfolio of use cases / case studies.

Answer me this: What is the main problem XEL could solve?
(In its current about to be released form, not talking about speculation of what is possible down the road)

Well said ! But please don't forget that we have a working product and over 300 people here and on the slack that would do anything ( PR,.....) the second EK gives the green light !

"coming from pre-internet era"? That is the genuine wiki style, something all developers and tech professionals appreciate, and something regular users probably hate, as they like big moving pictures with zero information presented  

In general, this project is all about real developers working together. This is exactly what I like here - the ones who actually create value, are the main players here, not the pr/marketing/traders etc.
Golem seems to be a hyped project for the ones who bite to hype, just as Lisk is, for example. IMHO.

Then of course, I understand your point too - at some moment (and this moment is very close), this project will need the ones who will promote it, increase awareness, spread the word and actually find the ones who will use the capabilities offered by EK and friends. This would probably need to go out of the small crypto universe as well, out to the real business world (like IOTA does).
And also your another point is very valid - the security is something this project misses the most. I mean it is based on few people, one of which is practically always absent, and (who knows..?) can disappear any moment with all the BTC invested, and the second one, while being a brilliant developer, already speaks of getting a real-life job.. . That's not very reassuring, to be honest

A real foundation needs to be built, with multiple reputable people, both holding the funds and working together... This could make this project shine, like a real diamond.

"coming from pre-internet era"? That is the genuine wiki style, something all developers and tech professionals appreciate, and something regular users probably hate, as they like big moving pictures with zero information presented  

In general, this project is all about real developers working together. This is exactly what I like here - the ones who actually create value, are the main players here, not the pr/marketing/traders etc.
Golem seems to be a hyped project for the ones who bite to hype, just as Lisk is, for example. IMHO.

Then of course, I understand your point too - at some moment (and this moment is very close), this project will need the ones who will promote it, increase awareness, spread the word and actually find the ones who will use the capabilities offered by EK and friends. This would probably need to go out of the small crypto universe as well, out to the real business world (like IOTA does).
And also your another point is very valid - the security is something this project misses the most. I mean it is based on few people, one of which is practically always absent, and (who knows..?) can disappear any moment with all the BTC invested, and the second one, while being a brilliant developer, already speaks of getting a real-life job.. . That's not very reassuring, to be honest

A real foundation needs to be built, with multiple reputable people, both holding the funds and working together... This could make this project shine, like a real diamond.

Maybe you're right, but they have enough traction to stay on the market for some time.

What if you will decide to leave Elastic tomorrow? With Lannister as a black hole, the project is immediately close to extinction, unless someone equally good will be found within short period of time. Who cares that Elastic is operational, and maybe even better than Golem in terms of tech, if it's just small niche project that nobody knows and cares about. Good PR and hype doesn't hurt, does it?

[Edit] And a pro website is something so very basic, that it's unbelievable Elastic has something like this http://www.elastic-project.com/ that is looking like coming from pre-internet era :-) Also, non-operational elastic.pro is used here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/elastic-xel-price-speculation-added-to-bittrex-1589333 from august and nobody takes care.

@Ek , Where are u?