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newbie
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July 26, 2013, 10:58:02 AM
#93
Using ypool makes no sense, the profitability is much lower than solo mining. Your service should be mining time for solo instead. If it is too unpredictable you could average out the earnings and give a fixed (+10/-10%) return from the service.
newbie
Activity: 43
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July 26, 2013, 10:29:26 AM
#92
I'm not the one that has to answer questions, in fact you completely ignored a genuine question I asked and deleted the post instead (and cut the BS about the deleting posts excuse).

Why are you not using the PPS to mine XPM yourself? (I'm sure you have a good answer lined up that doesn't quite answer the question so I give the correct answer below)

It's blatantly obvious (and you know it as well) that you are making more BTC doing it this way yet you're presenting a service that gives the impression that it is of value to the community. Scam? Maybe the right word, maybe not. In fact I think its up to you to provide the stats on how this is a good service to the community not for the 11 post noob to prove it otherwise.

Another thing I don't give a flying fuck about my integrity (which is quite ironic by the way), getting my name out there etc - I'm a piece of (honest) scummy shit with only 11 posts who doesn't give a fuck.

I actually liked your post, until that last line. I will not tolerate cursing and unprofessionalism in this thread.  You have a simple choice, take it or leave it.  I am not forcing you to buy our service, nor am I claiming you going to be a millionaire ... I think we have been the happy medium of a lot of things in the right direction, and trust me, I've seen a lot of failures come and go around here.  History speaks for itself, and I have plans that don't repeat itself. How do I have screenshots of our PPS rates, if I am not mining myself? Our network has reached a threshold of 500,000 PPS going to the network... but I don't need to brag or mention that to make a few sales.

The thing that bothers me the most is, you don't care about your integrity... if you don't, then you can't hold yourself to the truthful standard, then who is to say they should even listen to you.

I have a good feeling you are someone with multiple accounts on bitcointalk, and only time will tell, but hey, It sounds like you got a lot of time on your hands, maybe you should grab a book and educate yourself on how to communicate with a manner where people will give you the time of day.

I am done with you. Your next post will be deleted for spamming, and I don't care what it says.

Sorry for the cursing to myself, good luck.
donator
Activity: 1731
Merit: 1008
July 26, 2013, 10:00:53 AM
#91
To answer your question :
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If you can spare a minute or two on those two sites, and what you think of our new increase of pps vs pricing vs other alternative services?

Amazon EC2 is the low end metric of profitability because it can scale to 2000+ instances with a few clicks (once your request for more than 100 is approved).

A C1 instance that produce ~3500 PPS* cost 0.07c an hours or 1.68$ a day.

2.38 C1 for 0.04 BTC = 8700 PPS for one day.

*(far from accurate, I might bother to run one with latest optimizations and report back)
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1010
July 26, 2013, 09:52:26 AM
#90
paid for one day, we'll see how this goes, awaiting activation Smiley

Hey there, welcome aboard

You caught me at the right time, and I had a chance to get your account up already. Notice any changes and new stats coming in?
It will continue to populate a little more further. PM me or reply here for any questions or posting of progress/results.

Thanks
Maco

Now that is what i call service! i'll keep an eye on it, got another worker running on another comp too, so i'll keep an eye on stats for the next few hours Smiley

Edit : so far, no shares in the past 2 blocks, but i'll recheck in a while Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
July 26, 2013, 09:50:15 AM
#89
paid for one day, we'll see how this goes, awaiting activation Smiley

Hey there, welcome aboard

You caught me at the right time, and I had a chance to get your account up already. Notice any changes and new stats coming in?
It will continue to populate a little more further. PM me or reply here for any questions or posting of progress/results.

Thanks
Maco
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1010
July 26, 2013, 09:43:23 AM
#88
paid for one day, we'll see how this goes, awaiting activation Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
July 26, 2013, 09:41:19 AM
#87
I'm not the one that has to answer questions, in fact you completely ignored a genuine question I asked and deleted the post instead (and cut the BS about the deleting posts excuse).

Why are you not using the PPS to mine XPM yourself? (I'm sure you have a good answer lined up that doesn't quite answer the question so I give the correct answer below)

It's blatantly obvious (and you know it as well) that you are making more BTC doing it this way yet you're presenting a service that gives the impression that it is of value to the community. Scam? Maybe the right word, maybe not. In fact I think its up to you to provide the stats on how this is a good service to the community not for the 11 post noob to prove it otherwise.

Another thing I don't give a flying [censored curse word and deleted this post because of this] about my integrity (which is quite ironic by the way), getting my name out there etc - I'm a piece of (honest) scummy shit with only 11 posts who doesn't give a [censored curse word and deleted this post because of this].

I actually liked your post, until that last line. I will not tolerate cursing and unprofessionalism in this thread.  You have a simple choice, take it or leave it.  I am not forcing you to buy our service, nor am I claiming you going to be a millionaire ... I think we have been the happy medium of a lot of things in the right direction, and trust me, I've seen a lot of failures come and go around here.  History speaks for itself, and I have plans that don't repeat itself. How do I have screenshots of our PPS rates, if I am not mining myself? Our network has reached a threshold of 500,000 PPS going to the network... but I don't need to brag or mention that to make a few sales.

The thing that bothers me the most is, you don't care about your integrity... if you don't, then you can't hold yourself to the truthful standard, then who is to say they should even listen to you.

I have a good feeling you are someone with multiple accounts on bitcointalk, and only time will tell, but hey, It sounds like you got a lot of time on your hands, maybe you should grab a book and educate yourself on how to communicate with a manner where people will give you the time of day.

I am done with you. Your next post will be deleted for spamming, and I don't care what it says.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
July 26, 2013, 09:05:37 AM
#86
How about we discuss profitably and scalability first?

I'm about to set a bounty for a decent metric of PPS to XPM,  can't argue about that now.

Scalability,,,  why is the 6000pps for 0.04btc cheaper than the larger ones?

One person cannot own more than 1 account with us. Instead of offering 1K or 2K pps for 0.01/btc or 0.02/btc, we decided to double the value, for the lower price to start.  

Why it is cheaper than the larger ones? In what sense? People cannot duplicate or order a package more than once, and the larger ones achieve more at a faster rate.
donator
Activity: 1731
Merit: 1008
July 26, 2013, 08:55:45 AM
#85
How about we discuss profitably and scalability first?

I'm about to set a bounty for a decent metric of PPS to XPM,  can't argue about that now.

Scalability,,,  why is the 6000pps for 0.04btc cheaper than the larger ones?
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
July 26, 2013, 08:27:52 AM
#84

I think we got a lot more to bring very soon, and it all starts with YOU, the customer, the person who gives us feedback, and we are listening and reading.  


and deleting any posts that speak the truth about your scam Cheesy (including this probably Cheesy)

Nope, I had this same discussion with n4ru in private messages.

Bitcointalk has been lagging for the past few days, and I had seen double and triple posts of virtually everything in the thread.
So I backtracked to the six duplicates, and I am not sure what it was, but all 3 posts got deleted instead of the dupes.

And, you can't say its a scam when you have nothing to say to back it up. Go ahead, elaborate on the scam.
I won't delete it. Let's make a deal, present me with 1 fact that it leads to a scam, and I would be happy to leave it here.
I am sure you wouldn't mind getting your name out there with only 11 posts on a popular thread.

I'll let karma take over from here. Let's see your integrity.
newbie
Activity: 43
Merit: 0
July 26, 2013, 08:21:52 AM
#83

I think we got a lot more to bring very soon, and it all starts with YOU, the customer, the person who gives us feedback, and we are listening and reading.  


and deleting any posts that speak the truth about your scam Cheesy (including this probably Cheesy)
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
July 26, 2013, 08:14:46 AM
#82
Hey apbyte,

Thanks for the feedback. I love the creator who came up with the idea of a public forum,
and I don't think your post would have been possible without me, and Host For Bit as a team.

I can confidentiality say, I wouldn't have posted a constructive discussion if it wasn't for you.  Glad we got a chance to discuss this topic more in-depth.  I do believe we covered some good points, and +1's go to XPM for the future.  I can tell you what, we are actively engaging our business to continue serving the community with more value.

I think we got a lot more to bring very soon, and it all starts with YOU, the customer, the person who gives us feedback, and we are listening and reading.  

I have met a lot of people in a short period of time, and I think more than what makes this all worth it, is the PEOPLE around PRIMECOIN, BITCOINS, and ALT COINS. If it wasn't for the community, then this would not be possible. So, this is why you see us actively engaging with increase in value in our services. We will continue to give back more, and more... And those who take on our services, with or without gambling mentality, will be connected a bit closer to us, for now, and for the future.

As always, you can message me or email me anytime. I am here for you, and everyone in the community.

Keep those XPM's rolling in!

apbyte,

Awesome review, and yes, it is only an opinion.

The one thing is, as mentioned in OP, primecoin isn't a get rich currency. In fact, we are only missing few more world records until this begins to really go places. None of us can predict ROI or what you will earn with XPM mining overall. Currently, you have to be very lucky with SOLO mining to even mine a block a week. Also, it is hard for you to judge for the future of YPool, as our services is in conjunction with them. The pool is growing daily, and we are reaching huge blocks left and right. The stats page explains it. I started when the pool had only 10 workers, and now we are alive and kicking with what looks to be over a million PPS working for it. If you aren't part of it now, you will be in the future, but this will only help you earn more shares, as the network grows, and more PPS is working in its favor.

We don't know what ROI will bring, however, you can't really mine Bitcoin in 2011, and expect to see $266 in just under 2 years... no one saw that coming, even the experts.

Thanks for your words of wisdom, and I would like to agree in some level, however, all this is theory, and mining is another open door to what possibly can lead to a future..

You and I can't say what this will be, how much money you will make off each coin, or what shares you will start receiving and how fast...

End game: Go where the money is at... For a coin that is a little over 2 weeks old, and reaching a 0.018 [BTC/XPM] rate, I would like to take my chances, we got more to see from primecoin, far beyond what litecoin has been only trying to do for months, except primecoin broke that in about 2 weeks... Don't forget, litecoin wasn't too far from 0.01 BTC/LTC not too long ago, and at least primecoin has been consistent overall. Don't mind the ups and downs, every coin gets it, but the end game is... if you are holding AT THE RIGHT TIME, get ready to make some money.

Okay, so who is ready to start Moving Mountains? NEW RELEASE @ http://www.HostForBit.com


Thank you! I like when people reply in this constructive, discussion type manner, and I completely see your point and agree on your opinion too. My review concentrates only on what is going on right now, and main probability of getting something right now. Whole digital coins world is a gamble on the fact that these things will change the world. Although I think we all can agree that they already have done first wawe of change Smiley

To clarify for everyone - gambling is not bad thing. Everybody gambles on their ideas and hopes for future. I don't mean that gamble when you take out your kids college fund and go to Vegas to loose money (probability error there is very small - house always wins)



At this moment I am not mining XPM, but I am trading. By trading I mean - I am buying on exchanges and sending to my primecoin wallet Cheesy Yes I too think that Primecoin has huge potential and I am willing to take that risk. But to be responsible - think for yourself if you are ready to do gambling or not. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs gambled and they succeeded and changed the world, many other didn't. Be responsible, I mean don't take out your college fund Smiley


So to end my series of latest reviews - Chill and enjoy the ride! We are changing future
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
July 26, 2013, 07:49:13 AM
#81
apbyte,

Awesome review, and yes, it is only an opinion.

The one thing is, as mentioned in OP, primecoin isn't a get rich currency. In fact, we are only missing few more world records until this begins to really go places. None of us can predict ROI or what you will earn with XPM mining overall. Currently, you have to be very lucky with SOLO mining to even mine a block a week. Also, it is hard for you to judge for the future of YPool, as our services is in conjunction with them. The pool is growing daily, and we are reaching huge blocks left and right. The stats page explains it. I started when the pool had only 10 workers, and now we are alive and kicking with what looks to be over a million PPS working for it. If you aren't part of it now, you will be in the future, but this will only help you earn more shares, as the network grows, and more PPS is working in its favor.

We don't know what ROI will bring, however, you can't really mine Bitcoin in 2011, and expect to see $266 in just under 2 years... no one saw that coming, even the experts.

Thanks for your words of wisdom, and I would like to agree in some level, however, all this is theory, and mining is another open door to what possibly can lead to a future..

You and I can't say what this will be, how much money you will make off each coin, or what shares you will start receiving and how fast...

End game: Go where the money is at... For a coin that is a little over 2 weeks old, and reaching a 0.018 [BTC/XPM] rate, I would like to take my chances, we got more to see from primecoin, far beyond what litecoin has been only trying to do for months, except primecoin broke that in about 2 weeks... Don't forget, litecoin wasn't too far from 0.01 BTC/LTC not too long ago, and at least primecoin has been consistent overall. Don't mind the ups and downs, every coin gets it, but the end game is... if you are holding AT THE RIGHT TIME, get ready to make some money.

Okay, so who is ready to start Moving Mountains? NEW RELEASE @ http://www.HostForBit.com


Thank you! I like when people reply in this constructive, discussion type manner, and I completely see your point and agree on your opinion too. My review concentrates only on what is going on right now, and main probability of getting something right now. Whole digital coins world is a gamble on the fact that these things will change the world. Although I think we all can agree that they already have done first wawe of change Smiley

To clarify for everyone - gambling is not bad thing. Everybody gambles on their ideas and hopes for future. I don't mean that gamble when you take out your kids college fund and go to Vegas to loose money (probability error there is very small - house always wins)



At this moment I am not mining XPM, but I am trading. By trading I mean - I am buying on exchanges and sending to my primecoin wallet Cheesy Yes I too think that Primecoin has huge potential and I am willing to take that risk. But to be responsible - think for yourself if you are ready to do gambling or not. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs gambled and they succeeded and changed the world, many other didn't. Be responsible, I mean don't take out your college fund Smiley


So to end my series of latest reviews - Chill and enjoy the ride! We are changing future
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
July 26, 2013, 06:34:32 AM
#80
I just noticed a nice boost in my shares Roll Eyes thank you for your support!

Hi maco,

did my miner actually work for 6 hours? I've seen no shares on my ypool account yesterday, other than those my own pc mined...

Thanks in advance

Thanks for the heads up. I will get you up and running soon. Please check your pm to verify details.


Hey that's great news, travisio!
Thanks for the update.

Service report:

A bit more than 10 hours, total of 0.073274 XPM mined.
It is an awesome service but I must have had horrible luck. With the same PPS I've been averaging over 100% more shares.

Sent you a PM poordeveloper. You might have been on the previous server that we didn't update.
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
July 26, 2013, 06:23:57 AM
#79
I just noticed a nice boost in my shares Roll Eyes thank you for your support!

Hi maco,

did my miner actually work for 6 hours? I've seen no shares on my ypool account yesterday, other than those my own pc mined...

Thanks in advance

Thanks for the heads up. I will get you up and running soon. Please check your pm to verify details.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
July 26, 2013, 06:22:29 AM
#78
apbyte,

Awesome review, and yes, it is only an opinion.

The one thing is, as mentioned in OP, primecoin isn't a get rich currency. In fact, we are only missing few more world records until this begins to really go places. None of us can predict ROI or what you will earn with XPM mining overall. Currently, you have to be very lucky with SOLO mining to even mine a block a week. Also, it is hard for you to judge for the future of YPool, as our services is in conjunction with them. The pool is growing daily, and we are reaching huge blocks left and right. The stats page explains it. I started when the pool had only 10 workers, and now we are alive and kicking with what looks to be over a million PPS working for it. If you aren't part of it now, you will be in the future, but this will only help you earn more shares, as the network grows, and more PPS is working in its favor.

We don't know what ROI will bring, however, you can't really mine Bitcoin in 2011, and expect to see $266 in just under 2 years... no one saw that coming, even the experts.

Thanks for your words of wisdom, and I would like to agree in some level, however, all this is theory, and mining is another open door to what possibly can lead to a future..

You and I can't say what this will be, how much money you will make off each coin, or what shares you will start receiving and how fast...

End game: Go where the money is at... For a coin that is a little over 2 weeks old, and reaching a 0.018 [BTC/XPM] rate, I would like to take my chances, we got more to see from primecoin, far beyond what litecoin has been only trying to do for months, except primecoin broke that in about 2 weeks... Don't forget, litecoin wasn't too far from 0.01 BTC/LTC not too long ago, and at least primecoin has been consistent overall. Don't mind the ups and downs, every coin gets it, but the end game is... if you are holding AT THE RIGHT TIME, get ready to make some money.

Okay, so who is ready to start Moving Mountains? NEW RELEASE @ http://www.HostForBit.com
hero member
Activity: 896
Merit: 527
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July 26, 2013, 05:42:18 AM
#77
Service report:

A bit more than 10 hours, total of 0.073274 XPM mined.
It is an awesome service but I must have had horrible luck. With the same PPS I've been averaging over 100% more shares.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
July 26, 2013, 05:35:26 AM
#76
Wow, that is something crazy, I don't think you can find 50,000 pps anywhere else except for amazon (but their pricing is worse)

Some people have seen my first review which didn't make much mathematical sense to mine XPM, so let's see what numbers say to us now.

Notice: This is only my opinion only, if you have different opinion - that is fine, it's called democracy. If you think that you need to shout or call people bad words so further generations know that you had opinion - don't. NSA has it recorded in their data centers, so you don't need to worry about it anymore.

Yesterday after my 6 hour test drive HostForBit team was nice enough to allow me few more hours to run on more optimised service, so numbers have improved and I will try to do theoretical review of new prices and primes per second.

From both runs I have gathered basic numbers running on low pps machin that you get ~0.336 XPM per day

1) smallest 6,000pps
Theoretically you should get 2.016 XPM
And you should pay 0.04 BTC = ~4.9 XPM
You pay about 2.43 times more than you earn

2) crazy one 50,000pps
Theoretically you should get 16.8 XPM
And you should pay 0.57 BTC = ~70 XPM
You pay about 4.16 times more than you earn

Sounds bad? Yes it is, but wait, there is a catch
First - As XPM is high difficulty coin, more pps on same worker means much higher rate to find shares. To simply increase is not linear, it's curve! with not precise numbers, if you switch from 10pps to 20pps you don't get 2 times more shares, you get 3 times more shares, get the idea?
Second - as bigger pps as more full blocks you will find, which again increases your income.

So what it means?

If you want to play around - great, but with smallest options you probably will not get profit, only experience. When you go over 10,000pps things get unpredictable, there is no mathematical way to say if you will get profit or if you will loose, probability error gets huge and it becomes more like gambling. Everything is in hands of Tyche (statisticians and historians will understand, check wikipedia)

So to speek, what I am sure about is that HostForBit team is great, they have done great job, they are doing great job now and most likely will do even more great things in future. Their service is not something to worry about or gamble about, they simply do great job. Regarding XPM think for yourself, every digital coin itself is gambling that it will get higher value in future, and this type of mining is also gamble if you will be lucky enough you will get nice or even incredible profit, if you are not you will loose badly.


If my opinion somehow helped you, feel free to buy me beer XPM: AP3tWNNZTd6RzgWTPVsnLMAAa35VErceRy

sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
July 26, 2013, 04:45:35 AM
#75
Hi maco,

did my miner actually work for 6 hours? I've seen no shares on my ypool account yesterday, other than those my own pc mined...

Thanks in advance

Thanks for the heads up. I will get you up and running soon. Please check your pm to verify details.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
July 26, 2013, 04:07:31 AM
#74
** SECOND RELEASE ** PRICING CHANGED FOR EARLY USER ORDERS, and...
(PPS) PRIMES PER SECOND PER ORDER has INCREASED by up to 62% per package.

First Release pricing [INACTIVE] - http://www.HostForBit.com/first-release
NOW LIVE ~ Second Release [ACTIVE] - http://www.HostForBit.com  (Homepage)

Thanks to those who signed up to try out our first release of Free & Paid services.
All current users will be upgraded and time frame will be extended at our expense.

It looks like a good turn around of paid buyers have joined after their free trial was up.
I am sure now with the new release and attractive low pricing, you can see more out of it.

Please check our previous prices: http://www.HostForBit.com/first-release
and new prices at the home page: http://www.HostForBit.com


We cannot promise these prices will be the same for a while, however, you get early access now to get a head start.

In addition, we turned up the volume for each package, not only in an increase of PPS,
but we added TURBO PPS for anything over 15k PPS. Turbo is an option that was added TODAY
by the Host For Bit team, and we will begin BETA testing Turbo with any new and current sign ups.

We expect each user to reach Turbo Speeds at least 4 times a day.

Turbo will go away soon or may be a premium feature later. Any member who stays with us, will continue to receive turbo no matter what price it hits, without paying more.
This is only a beta test for users to try out.  Thanks for considering this as your next top primecoin mining service: http://www.HostForBit.com

maco
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