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Part of the answer is that the last block (114451) took over an hour to solve.  

I have been noticing that as soon as the difficulty gets around 145000 or higher it gets very difficult to solve a block and it seems out of proportion to what I would expect. It also takes long time for the difficulty to adjust down.  I assume because the time between blocks is too long.   No one is going to make any money if the coin can't be mined.

Can the devs investigate this?

EDIT: the net hash rate dropped to 5.88 once the block was found. So much for conspiracy theories....

I wondered about this also. I had some conversations at Consensus before the Zen launch announcement party that were enlightening. There were some investors who wanted to get Zclassic before the split. They were working to buy large amounts of Zclassic but couldn't without driving the price up too high on Bittrex. They could not find any private party willing to sell. So they hired some miners to get them as much as they could get.

Something similar might be happening now. There was no Zen ICO, no pre-allocation of large amounts of cryptocurrency like Ethereum, no 20% carve-out of mining that gets paid directly to the venture capital investors in the project like in Zcash. The only way to get Zen is to mine it. The 79% of hash rate that can't be found is, in my best guess, hired hashrate from different investors who want to be able to get into a new cryptocurrency and are doing it the only way they can right now, which is mining it. They run their private pools or proxy servers for solo mining, and don't worry about attracting retail level miners, because they don't need to.

Those GPU's that are sold out? Probably going to the big private mining farms that have been buying in large quantity for years. Good, longtime, consistent customers with lots of future purchasing ability always get the best allocations of restricted product.

How does that affect retail level miners? It's good! Where there is broadbased demand, that's good news for a cryptocurrency.

And I really admire people like @ocminer who are willing to build and expand mining pools for all sorts of cryptocurrencies. I would not be able to deal with the amount of crap he gets on a daily basis from people who use his pools for mining and making money, and complain and accuse him of not being fair.
newbie
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Hello Ocminer,
yesterday I could't access the Suprnova web interface and the day before was very slow. sporadically I was able to connect but surfing between pages was almost impossible. any ways my account is locked now - so please help.
my info:
username: nobink


also i have been mining 3 or 4 years and I have a few questions:
1. when mining zcash on flypool difficulty level is set on 8000H , can you do the same? this will prevent the hashrate to variate.

2. this is a bit complicated. for sure you know who are all those anonymous miners moving 500000kH between pools as soon as the difficulty jump they disconnect and move to other coin, and this is so unfair for the loyal miners who support the crypto world and are trying to get ROI . Yes I know you will tell me, they are pay for the  shares submitted. but please understand that my Round payment is going down, example from .1 par block found to .05 - when 500000kh are trown into the pool in the middle of mining 10 min long block. my suggestion is - can you ban any one with over 200000kH  for 24h if they switch coin,  from rejoining the pool again. this way little miners like me we could get ROI vs someone who rents rigs.

You see in altcoins  no one respects miners vs bitcoin, where miners like antpool f2 or cex have there saying about future of the coin.  but In the same time everyone need us, coin developers, pool operators, mining software writers. and if we don't make a decent  ROI then the all crypto is going down the tubes.
full member
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In the meanwhile the normal http://zen.suprnova.cc should be working fine again Smiley
Can't connect using SSL (port 3621) today. It worked fine until this morning.
Unsecured (port 3618) connection works ok.
I'm in Europe.

Thanks for the info, should be okay now !
Yes, it works properly now. Thank you.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1240
In the meanwhile the normal http://zen.suprnova.cc should be working fine again Smiley
Can't connect using SSL (port 3621) today. It worked fine until this morning.
Unsecured (port 3618) connection works ok.
I'm in Europe.

Thanks for the info, should be okay now !
sr. member
Activity: 1216
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Do we have gui wallet which can be used securely , i do not like consol wallets..There is no point to keep my coins at Bittrex now when price is stabilized. Can we expect Jexx support in near future, i alredy use it for ZCL coins, and it is really nice and usable.

You already have a wallet GUI on ZEN, and that works very well. Wink

You can download it here: https://github.com/zencashio/eleos/releases

When I see that Zclassic and Zen have a wallet windows GUI, and that Zcash still does not have wallet windows GUI ....

No comment ..
legendary
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Do we have gui wallet which can be used securely , i do not like consol wallets..There is no point to keep my coins at Bittrex now when price is stabilized. Can we expect Jexx support in near future, i alredy use it for ZCL coins, and it is really nice and usable.
sr. member
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Looking for someone who can build a zen node for me , I will pay you ~
member
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If anyone could explain how to make cold storage of Zencash I will appreciate this.
Thanks
full member
Activity: 138
Merit: 100
In the meanwhile the normal http://zen.suprnova.cc should be working fine again Smiley
Can't connect using SSL (port 3621) today. It worked fine until this morning.
Unsecured (port 3618) connection works ok.
I'm in Europe.
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
Part of the answer is that the last block (114451) took over an hour to solve.  

I have been noticing that as soon as the difficulty gets around 145000 or higher it gets very difficult to solve a block and it seems out of proportion to what I would expect. It also takes long time for the difficulty to adjust down.  I assume because the time between blocks is too long.   No one is going to make any money if the coin can't be mined.

Can the devs investigate this?

EDIT: the net hash rate dropped to 5.88 once the block was found. So much for conspiracy theories....
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
Quite a few ZEN pools are down or really slow with timeouts, and others are too tiny/new to inspire much confidence:

miningspeed.com - down

minez.zone - down, their 55 ZEN gift doesn't really compensate if it goes down too often (ddos or not); not sure how effective their ddos countermeasures are, the last downtime was substantial (7+ hours judging from the reports here)

suprnova.cc - I had timeouts on it all day, my miners kept being disconnected for long periods, web interface utterly slow or timeouts

zencash.cloud -  up, but hardly anyone is on it ...

luckpool.org - up, but hashrate at only 57 kSol/s, 13 miners, and the top miner has 53 kSol/s, so if/when that one leaves ...

cryptobroker - up, hashrate at 300 kSol/s, but only 7 miners, and top miner has 290 kSol/s, so if/when that leaves ...

zenmine.pro - up, hashrate at 185 kSol/s, 130 miners ... the most "healthy" so far (also 0% fee)

miningpool.io - up, but hashrate at only 24 kSol/s, 13 miners ...

mixpools.org - no idea, haven't tried it, there are 0 miners on it ...

zenpool.eu - up, but only 1 miner with 280 Sol/s


NOTE ON SUPRNOVA: Last time I could access the Suprnova web interface, it was showing about 80% of the entire network hashrate ... that's not a healthy network. If any of the big miners are reading this, please consider at least spreading your hashrate to other pools! I totally understand that the alternatives haven't proven very reliable until now, but still ...

EDIT: using the alternative address sup.rnova.cc, it shows the hashrate is only about 1.1M out of 5.5M, so only 20% ... this is odd and doesn't quite add up. I've looked at most pools and the sum of all other pools is less than 1M, so either there are a shitload of solo miners out there, or suprnova is reporting wrong numbers

Hey, you missed my pool! There's actually a lot of small pools out there. But the network hash rate rose so fast many switched to other coins or joined larger pools. I'm aiming all the miners I have at my own pool and hope to find a few blocks per day. Maybe if other people join it will even the rate out.

https://zpool.blockoperations.com/


I just went through the known pools listed and tallied up the hash rates.  Why do these only add up to 21% of the network hash rate? Are there other hidden pools or solo mining making up the other 79%??  Or is there a problem with the stated network hash rate?

Total speculation(conspiracy theory): could the recent denial of service attacks be perpetrated by those mining the 79% as they try to grab as much ZEN as they can?

I also just watched the hash rate on suprnova rise 100k but the network rate did not change.

Code:
miningspeed.com 	unavailable
minez.zone             56.59
suprnova.cc            856.64
zencash.cloud             32.04
luckpool.org unavailable
cryptobroker            297.83
zenmine.pro            147.64
miningpool.io             20.63
mixpools.org unavailable
zenpool.eu                  0.035
pool.mn                     4.10
blockoperations.com    37.65
Total Pool               1,453.16 21%

Network                   7,070.00

not in pools          5,616.85 79%
newbie
Activity: 28
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FYI, I've been using the zenmine.pro pool all day. I am getting around a 300+ ms ping for shares which is a bit high, but other than that I've had no problems at all.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1240
In the meanwhile the normal http://zen.suprnova.cc should be working fine again Smiley
member
Activity: 77
Merit: 10
Sorry if that question already came up but i haven't found it.
Is there any road map of major updates/releases?


There is a road map in the white paper. Right now we need to get the things going that we have been talking about as differentiators. With funding being generated for paying developers and doing other things, we'll be able to do it.

Big picture, the things we are looking at doing in the near term are:
Update Zen node software to work with SSL
Get the Eleos wallets reliable and useful on all platforms
Enable Secure node features in code, then start the tracking and payouts
Flesh out the governance model and work to get it going.
Get the additional infrastructure set up - block explorers, node tracking, more guides, improved website.
Continue work on internationalization of information.
member
Activity: 77
Merit: 10
Quite a few ZEN pools are down or really slow with timeouts, and others are too tiny/new to inspire much confidence:

miningspeed.com - down

minez.zone - down, their 55 ZEN gift doesn't really compensate if it goes down too often (ddos or not); not sure how effective their ddos countermeasures are, the last downtime was substantial (7+ hours judging from the reports here)

suprnova.cc - I had timeouts on it all day, my miners kept being disconnected for long periods, web interface utterly slow or timeouts

zencash.cloud -  up, but hardly anyone is on it ...

luckpool.org - up, but hashrate at only 57 kSol/s, 13 miners, and the top miner has 53 kSol/s, so if/when that one leaves ...

cryptobroker - up, hashrate at 300 kSol/s, but only 7 miners, and top miner has 290 kSol/s, so if/when that leaves ...

zenmine.pro - up, hashrate at 185 kSol/s, 130 miners ... the most "healthy" so far (also 0% fee)

miningpool.io - up, but hashrate at only 24 kSol/s, 13 miners ...

mixpools.org - no idea, haven't tried it, there are 0 miners on it ...

zenpool.eu - up, but only 1 miner with 280 Sol/s


NOTE ON SUPRNOVA: Last time I could access the Suprnova web interface, it was showing about 80% of the entire network hashrate ... that's not a healthy network. If any of the big miners are reading this, please consider at least spreading your hashrate to other pools! I totally understand that the alternatives haven't proven very reliable until now, but still ...

EDIT: using the alternative address sup.rnova.cc, it shows the hashrate is only about 1.1M out of 5.5M, so only 20% ... this is odd and doesn't quite add up. I've looked at most pools and the sum of all other pools is less than 1M, so either there are a shitload of solo miners out there, or suprnova is reporting wrong numbers

Hey, you missed my pool! There's actually a lot of small pools out there. But the network hash rate rose so fast many switched to other coins or joined larger pools. I'm aiming all the miners I have at my own pool and hope to find a few blocks per day. Maybe if other people join it will even the rate out.

https://zpool.blockoperations.com/
member
Activity: 77
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I think that we should all contact Ledger and ask for them to integrate Zen support into their wallets - I would think it would be easy to do as they already support Zcash and it would definitely increase the exposure and legitimacy of Zen!

Ledger support is on the roadmap. I talked with one of the Ledger owners at Consensus last month to get the conversation started. There is a process, and it costs money, which is fair.

Hardware wallet support is important, and it is on the roadmap.
legendary
Activity: 2688
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You can also use:

https://zen.sup.rnova.cc

If you can't reach zen.suprnova.cc

This worked great for awhile.  Now getting 502 on the new domain through cloudflare.  Either something broke or they are hunting down your fixes to make ZEN fail Sad



EDIT:
Just got this too, maybe it will help diagnose:
Error 525 Ray ID: 36b83d6aaef339e2 • 2017-06-08 01:57:21 UTC
SSL handshake failed

Try:

http://zen.suprnova.cc

or

http://zen.sup.rnova.cc
newbie
Activity: 52
Merit: 0
You can also use:

https://zen.sup.rnova.cc

If you can't reach zen.suprnova.cc

This worked great for awhile.  Now getting 502 on the new domain through cloudflare.  Either something broke or they are hunting down your fixes to make ZEN fail Sad



EDIT:
Just got this too, maybe it will help diagnose:
Error 525 Ray ID: 36b83d6aaef339e2 • 2017-06-08 01:57:21 UTC
SSL handshake failed
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
Is Zen listed on other exchanges excluding Bittrex and C-cex?

Bittrex is living !

very nice,good job,wish you all the best!
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