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September 06, 2014, 12:45:03 PM
#48
We might've not lost BTC but some people, ESPECIALLY me, lost a LOT of valuable time that we invested. I'm still not happy about that. If you found a discovery that proved a scam you should've offered CONCRETE evidence of it. Not this bull.

And I apologize, during the process there were some things that I could have handled better. But in the end all that mattered was getting rid of a scammer.
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September 06, 2014, 12:40:17 PM
#47
We might've not lost BTC but some people, ESPECIALLY me, lost a LOT of valuable time that we invested. I'm still not happy about that. If you found a discovery that proved a scam you should've offered CONCRETE evidence of it. Not this bull.
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September 06, 2014, 11:37:46 AM
#46
Like I said, I'm done arguing/fighting to prove my point. I have said all that I can say on the situation and I just honestly don't have the energy to defend myself fully right now. Other than that 0.1btc I took back from minerdirect that was scammed from me, I have not taken any amount of btc from anyone else. Yeah I deleted a bunch of content from the forum but all he had to do was do a roll back, which he did. The site was up for another month or so before some other people started realizing it was a scam, resulting in him just shutting the site down. The reason I didn't publicly out him is because he would have just put it back on me somehow, just like he did with the 0.1btc that I took back, labeling me a scammer. He had rep over me, and people believed anything he said, I was screwed either way. Anyway, do whatever you're going to do, I see it being an inevitable fate in the end no matter what. Good guys always come out on bottom right?
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September 06, 2014, 06:44:05 AM
#45
Diamondcardz claims that what you did was extremely unethical. If you convince him that you committed no wrong doing I will remove your trust and lock my thread.

Look, I agree that scamming a scammer is not at all right. I was angry, upset, and wasn't thinking straight. I had spent a lot of time on that forum building trust and friends just to figure out it was all a lie being led by a guy who was out for nothing more than to fill his pockets. I was just starting fresh with BTC, getting to know the ropes. I had earned the 0.1 btc I had lost on a game he had on the forum that was setup to lose no matter what, I (at the time) figured I would get it back, so I asked him for a 0.1 loan then proceeded to delete all content from the site to stop him from scamming anyone else. I'm sorry if this looks bad in your eyes Diamond, but I thought I was helping everyone else by putting an end to it. But labeling me as a flat out scammer is unfair I believe, I didn't hurt anyone. In fact I'd like to believe I saved a lot of people from losing hard earned btc. I'm done arguing/fighting to explain myself, and the actions I made several months ago that I believed to be helpful more than harmful.

So you gambled, lost, gambled again, lost again, then deleted the entire thing b/c it was "rigged"?  Also deleting any "proof" you had that it was rigged?  Riiiigggttt....
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September 06, 2014, 05:07:40 AM
#44
I was the one Anony requested the 2btc loan from. Part of the reason why I denied it was because he tried to use irrelevant mod status as leverage to get the loan. It would have been too easy to run off with 2btc with a new account, especially now that his reputation is soiled.

I didn't fully buy into the story to buy tools either  Wink.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8567485
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September 06, 2014, 04:47:24 AM
#43
Then why on Earth didn't you publicly announce that he was a scammer rather than just deleting the forum and running off and screwing over everyone? Your story doesn't fully add up to me. I myself did have my own suspicions - but they were just that, suspicions - about MD but if MD did turn out to be a scammer I would have simply announced it and made sure no-one continued using MD. What you did is like scamming the admin and then DDoSing Bitcointalk because you don't like the admin.
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September 06, 2014, 02:34:40 AM
#42
Diamondcardz claims that what you did was extremely unethical. If you convince him that you committed no wrong doing I will remove your trust and lock my thread.

Look, I agree that scamming a scammer is not at all right. I was angry, upset, and wasn't thinking straight. I had spent a lot of time on that forum building trust and friends just to figure out it was all a lie being led by a guy who was out for nothing more than to fill his pockets. I was just starting fresh with BTC, getting to know the ropes. I had earned the 0.1 btc I had lost on a game he had on the forum that was setup to lose no matter what, I (at the time) figured I would get it back, so I asked him for a 0.1 loan then proceeded to delete all content from the site to stop him from scamming anyone else. I'm sorry if this looks bad in your eyes Diamond, but I thought I was helping everyone else by putting an end to it. But labeling me as a flat out scammer is unfair I believe, I didn't hurt anyone. In fact I'd like to believe I saved a lot of people from losing hard earned btc. I'm done arguing/fighting to explain myself, and the actions I made several months ago that I believed to be helpful more than harmful.
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September 05, 2014, 02:26:44 PM
#41
I don't know whether MD was a scammer or not as I resigned due to me wanting to do other things and I didn't see the "fall" of MD, but I know that you did loan scam. Whether MD was a scammer or not is irrelevant. Scamming a "scammer" doesn't make it right.

I took back what he took from me, nothing more.
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September 05, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
#40
I don't know whether MD was a scammer or not as I resigned due to me wanting to do other things and I didn't see the "fall" of MD, but I know that you did loan scam. Whether MD was a scammer or not is irrelevant. Scamming a "scammer" doesn't make it right.
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September 05, 2014, 02:05:18 PM
#39
I mention the loan, so you run away, eh?

Alright. Bye.

I'm not running away, I just have other/more important things I need to be putting my energy into. All I have to say has been said in the posts above, nothing more I can/need to say. MD was a scammer, people ratted him out, he closed the site, and has since disappeared. I simply realized this before anyone else and he got his feelings hurt and used his rep over me and labeled me a scammer. Yes I did receive a .1 "loan" from the owner of MD, and no I wasn't going to return it simply due to the fact that it was scammed from me to begin with. But I never once took anything that didn't belong to me with intentions of not returning it. Stunna, I hope you have enough proof to make whatever decision you decide to make, but like I said, I simply don't care at this point. Whats done is done.
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ClearLunatic @ PrimeDice
September 05, 2014, 02:02:48 PM
#38
I was Head Staff (resigned before whatever fate caused it to shut down, though) on MinerDirect. I do not know what exactly happened to cause MD to shut down but at the time that Anony destroyed MinerDirect there were no scams going on. There were a couple issues regarding lottos but AFAIK they were all resolved. Anony. PlanKton.

You told me that you had no way of paying back the loan in IRC, remember? The one you took from the admin. I think you've forgetten that.

You are a scammer. Get lost.

I'm not going to continue arguing this, Stunna has all the proof he needs to make a decision on his own. I have personal things I have to attend to in real life and don't have time for stupid drama like this. I really don't care at this point.
A person that really intends to leave, usually doesn't announce it. Especially not on 2 different places. If you truly have real life troubles then just please go for your own sake. In the case that you truly haven't done anything, I understand wanting to clear your reputation. But it is an online reputation, and it should never be as remotely important as your real life.
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September 05, 2014, 01:59:53 PM
#37
I mention the loan, so you run away, eh?

Alright. Bye.
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September 05, 2014, 01:58:11 PM
#36
I was Head Staff (resigned before whatever fate caused it to shut down, though) on MinerDirect. I do not know what exactly happened to cause MD to shut down but at the time that Anony destroyed MinerDirect there were no scams going on. There were a couple issues regarding lottos but AFAIK they were all resolved. Anony. PlanKton.

You told me that you had no way of paying back the loan in IRC, remember? The one you took from the admin. I think you've forgetten that.

You are a scammer. Get lost.

I'm not going to continue arguing this, Stunna has all the proof he needs to make a decision on his own. I have personal things I have to attend to in real life and don't have time for stupid drama like this. I really don't care at this point.
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September 05, 2014, 01:48:05 PM
#35
I was Head Staff (resigned before whatever fate caused it to shut down, though) on MinerDirect. I do not know what exactly happened to cause MD to shut down but at the time that Anony destroyed MinerDirect there were no scams going on. There were a couple issues regarding lottos but AFAIK they were all resolved. Anony. PlanKton.

You told me that you had no way of paying back the loan in IRC, remember? The one you took from the admin. I think you've forgetten that.

You are a scammer. Get lost.
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September 05, 2014, 10:45:13 AM
#34



I assume Stunna has been thinking this over some as it no longer calls you a scammer and now just says suspicious activity.  He will likely review the case and take the actions he feel best. 


Hope for the best for you Anony!

Well I'm certainly still labeled as a scammer. I've given Stunna all the proof that I have that says I'm not a scammer, have had numerous people vouch for me, and honestly have 0 evidence against me that says I am a scammer. I don't know what else there is to do, other than to wait it out.

Vouch in what way though? Saying they think you're a nice guy or have paid back small loans isn't proof that you're not a scammer as that's how long conners will work. I haven't looked over all the evidence thoroughly so I'm not accusing you of anything, but have you explained the joshjones email which was brought up in one of the other scam accusations somewhere?

See that's why you need to read the full thread. I have already said that I owned both of the other accounts that were labeled scammers, which one of the accounts used the email joshjones. That is where there is a connection. I was labeled as a scammer simply because I crippled a site that was scammer others, the owner of that site had higher reputation on bitcointalk than I did at the time and made accusations that I scammed him in order to get back at me for stopping his scam site. Soon after I dropped the two old accounts and made the new "Anony" account people started realizing that I in fact was telling the truth, and that minerdirect was a lying piece of shit scammer and minerdirect closed down his website and hasn't been active on bitcointalk in over 2 months. Instead of trying to redeem both of the accounts labeled as scammers before, I just decided to stick with the "Anony" persona I had. Like I said earlier, I have not once scammed someone. Even the accusation minerdirect had on me was for 0.1btc and I have held MUCH more than that for members of the PD community. So why would I scam him out of 0.1 but not take btc worth 10x-20x as much from someone else exactly? Nothing that has been posted here even resembles me being a scammer, and I'm currently labeled as such and the OP has seemingly decided to stop responding to the thread and this situation.
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September 05, 2014, 10:35:52 AM
#33



I assume Stunna has been thinking this over some as it no longer calls you a scammer and now just says suspicious activity.  He will likely review the case and take the actions he feel best. 


Hope for the best for you Anony!

Well I'm certainly still labeled as a scammer. I've given Stunna all the proof that I have that says I'm not a scammer, have had numerous people vouch for me, and honestly have 0 evidence against me that says I am a scammer. I don't know what else there is to do, other than to wait it out.

Vouch in what way though? Saying they think you're a nice guy or have paid back small loans isn't proof that you're not a scammer as that's how long conners will work. I haven't looked over all the evidence thoroughly so I'm not accusing you of anything, but have you explained the joshjones email which was brought up in one of the other scam accusations somewhere?
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September 05, 2014, 02:09:35 AM
#32



Well hopefully he removes the negative trust as he hasn't shown proof of you being a scammer.

The only thing that has been shown is that I've been labeled a scammer for simply stopping an actual scammer lol
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September 05, 2014, 02:04:50 AM
#31



Well hopefully he removes the negative trust as he hasn't shown proof of you being a scammer.
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September 05, 2014, 02:00:43 AM
#30



I assume Stunna has been thinking this over some as it no longer calls you a scammer and now just says suspicious activity.  He will likely review the case and take the actions he feel best. 


Hope for the best for you Anony!

Well I'm certainly still labeled as a scammer. I've given Stunna all the proof that I have that says I'm not a scammer, have had numerous people vouch for me, and honestly have 0 evidence against me that says I am a scammer. I don't know what else there is to do, other than to wait it out.
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September 05, 2014, 01:55:21 AM
#29



I assume Stunna has been thinking this over some as it no longer calls you a scammer and now just says suspicious activity.  He will likely review the case and take the actions he feel best. 


Hope for the best for you Anony!
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