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Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 08:02:43 AM

Thank you all! I will most likely be using BC then. Sounds pretty safe and anonymous.
I will look into those other websites for another wallet.

If you want a case where your personal info could be found, here goes:

I own a Bitcoin exchange account that requires my address, name and everything to operate legally in my country.

I trade USD for Bitcoin on this exchange. My bank account is linked.

I cash out my Bitcoin to a random address.

The exchange can almost always assume that the address is mine, thus tagging this address with my address, name and any other information they know about me.

in the moment that you link your bank account, they can start search for your identity, so in theory even exchange that do not ask directly for your ID are not anonymous

better to not exchange bitcoin altogether if you want to keep your privacy or use monero with this https://xmr.to/ to buy stuff

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Quote from: jt byte on July 19, 2015, 11:32:10 AM

Coinbase would be a good choice for you, since it is easy to use/ to send and to receive.
Every time it generates new addresses.
Also when an exchange was hacked the coins were sent to a site which was accessible only by TOR network.
Cant remember the site name but it was something like bitcoin foggy or something like that.
Search a bit and i think you will find what you are requiring.
Good Luck

for bitcoin anonymity i would not recommend coinbase at all since it tracks how users spend their funds.
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113207/coinbase-is-tracking-how-users-spend-their-bitcoins
http://truthvoice.com/2015/05/coinbase-accused-of-tracking-bitcoin-users-notifying-cops-of-transactions/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qmpp7/coinbase_is_tracking_how_users_spend_their/

in fact, i would really recommend against coinbase if you want to stay anonymous.

and the site youre thinking of is bitcoinfog, they have a clearnet portal, but to actually access their mixer services you must access them through TOR.

Well so i have never ever done or think about this until i saw this main post and was thinking how?
So i change my mind do something else and stay away from coinbase.

well aside from anonymity, copinbase is good for other uses; if youre an online merchant accepting bitcoin, i believe coinbase has a merchant tool to accept payments and convert them into fiat for you automatically, hence ensuring merchants dont lose out from bitcoin price volatility.

So the merchant that are accepting bitcoin seems a good chance for them, but can coinbase stop/hold the funds even in fiat currency after converting from bitcoin

of course they can, but not without a reason. i dont think there would be a reason for coinbase to hold the funds of legitimate merchants though, unless a dispute or a refund was requested. however, i dont know their policies on bitcoin refunds, so i cant say too much on the subject.

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Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 08:02:43 AM

Thank you all! I will most likely be using BC then. Sounds pretty safe and anonymous.
I will look into those other websites for another wallet.

If you want a case where your personal info could be found, here goes:

I own a Bitcoin exchange account that requires my address, name and everything to operate legally in my country.

I trade USD for Bitcoin on this exchange. My bank account is linked.

I cash out my Bitcoin to a random address.

The exchange can almost always assume that the address is mine, thus tagging this address with my address, name and any other information they know about me.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 22, 2015, 03:52:20 PM

Quote from: jt byte on July 22, 2015, 03:50:19 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on July 22, 2015, 02:51:59 PM

Quote from: jt byte on July 19, 2015, 11:32:10 AM

Coinbase would be a good choice for you, since it is easy to use/ to send and to receive.
Every time it generates new addresses.
Also when an exchange was hacked the coins were sent to a site which was accessible only by TOR network.
Cant remember the site name but it was something like bitcoin foggy or something like that.
Search a bit and i think you will find what you are requiring.
Good Luck

for bitcoin anonymity i would not recommend coinbase at all since it tracks how users spend their funds.
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113207/coinbase-is-tracking-how-users-spend-their-bitcoins
http://truthvoice.com/2015/05/coinbase-accused-of-tracking-bitcoin-users-notifying-cops-of-transactions/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qmpp7/coinbase_is_tracking_how_users_spend_their/

in fact, i would really recommend against coinbase if you want to stay anonymous.

and the site youre thinking of is bitcoinfog, they have a clearnet portal, but to actually access their mixer services you must access them through TOR.

Well so i have never ever done or think about this until i saw this main post and was thinking how?
So i change my mind do something else and stay away from coinbase.

well aside from anonymity, copinbase is good for other uses; if youre an online merchant accepting bitcoin, i believe coinbase has a merchant tool to accept payments and convert them into fiat for you automatically, hence ensuring merchants dont lose out from bitcoin price volatility.

So the merchant that are accepting bitcoin seems a good chance for them, but can coinbase stop/hold the funds even in fiat currency after converting from bitcoin

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Quote from: jt byte on July 22, 2015, 03:50:19 PM

Quote from: subSTRATA on July 22, 2015, 02:51:59 PM

Quote from: jt byte on July 19, 2015, 11:32:10 AM

Coinbase would be a good choice for you, since it is easy to use/ to send and to receive.
Every time it generates new addresses.
Also when an exchange was hacked the coins were sent to a site which was accessible only by TOR network.
Cant remember the site name but it was something like bitcoin foggy or something like that.
Search a bit and i think you will find what you are requiring.
Good Luck

for bitcoin anonymity i would not recommend coinbase at all since it tracks how users spend their funds.
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113207/coinbase-is-tracking-how-users-spend-their-bitcoins
http://truthvoice.com/2015/05/coinbase-accused-of-tracking-bitcoin-users-notifying-cops-of-transactions/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qmpp7/coinbase_is_tracking_how_users_spend_their/

in fact, i would really recommend against coinbase if you want to stay anonymous.

and the site youre thinking of is bitcoinfog, they have a clearnet portal, but to actually access their mixer services you must access them through TOR.

Well so i have never ever done or think about this until i saw this main post and was thinking how?
So i change my mind do something else and stay away from coinbase.

well aside from anonymity, copinbase is good for other uses; if youre an online merchant accepting bitcoin, i believe coinbase has a merchant tool to accept payments and convert them into fiat for you automatically, hence ensuring merchants dont lose out from bitcoin price volatility.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 22, 2015, 02:51:59 PM

Quote from: jt byte on July 19, 2015, 11:32:10 AM

Coinbase would be a good choice for you, since it is easy to use/ to send and to receive.
Every time it generates new addresses.
Also when an exchange was hacked the coins were sent to a site which was accessible only by TOR network.
Cant remember the site name but it was something like bitcoin foggy or something like that.
Search a bit and i think you will find what you are requiring.
Good Luck

for bitcoin anonymity i would not recommend coinbase at all since it tracks how users spend their funds.
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113207/coinbase-is-tracking-how-users-spend-their-bitcoins
http://truthvoice.com/2015/05/coinbase-accused-of-tracking-bitcoin-users-notifying-cops-of-transactions/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qmpp7/coinbase_is_tracking_how_users_spend_their/

in fact, i would really recommend against coinbase if you want to stay anonymous.

and the site youre thinking of is bitcoinfog, they have a clearnet portal, but to actually access their mixer services you must access them through TOR.

Well so i have never ever done or think about this until i saw this main post and was thinking how?
So i change my mind do something else and stay away from coinbase.

subSTRATA

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Quote from: jt byte on July 19, 2015, 11:32:10 AM

Coinbase would be a good choice for you, since it is easy to use/ to send and to receive.
Every time it generates new addresses.
Also when an exchange was hacked the coins were sent to a site which was accessible only by TOR network.
Cant remember the site name but it was something like bitcoin foggy or something like that.
Search a bit and i think you will find what you are requiring.
Good Luck

for bitcoin anonymity i would not recommend coinbase at all since it tracks how users spend their funds.
http://cointelegraph.com/news/113207/coinbase-is-tracking-how-users-spend-their-bitcoins
http://truthvoice.com/2015/05/coinbase-accused-of-tracking-bitcoin-users-notifying-cops-of-transactions/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2qmpp7/coinbase_is_tracking_how_users_spend_their/

in fact, i would really recommend against coinbase if you want to stay anonymous.

and the site youre thinking of is bitcoinfog, they have a clearnet portal, but to actually access their mixer services you must access them through TOR.

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Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 06:56:31 AM

I have to send money to someone using BitCoin and I want to remain fully anonymous to the recipient and to the public.

I have read a little about this subject and I've read that all transactions are public. So my questions are:

1. What information can be known to (1) the recipient, and to (2) the public?

2. I do not want my real name, address, email or phone number known to anyone (recipient and the public).
I am fine with anyone knowing the amount of the transaction.

So how can I stay as anonymous as possible? I want to jump through as little hoops as possible.

1. The only thing that the network will know is your bitcoin address and the receiver's bitcoin address.
2. There are no personal credentials attached when creating a bitcoin transaction all over the network. That is the advantage of bitcoin against the traditional wire transfer and money transfer services. Also, the transaction will get through within an hour (or most of the time, <30 minutes) and will be confirmed by the network to be available on spending.

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it's true, even if they manage to track you back in some way because you have left many tracks behind you, they can't for sure connect your address with your name or your identity, this thing isn't mentioned when we talk about anon, and this is the reason why bitcoin is pseudo-anon

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Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 06:56:31 AM

I have to send money to someone using BitCoin and I want to remain fully anonymous to the recipient and to the public.

I have read a little about this subject and I've read that all transactions are public. So my questions are:

1. What information can be known to (1) the recipient, and to (2) the public?

2. I do not want my real name, address, email or phone number known to anyone (recipient and the public).
I am fine with anyone knowing the amount of the transaction.

So how can I stay as anonymous as possible? I want to jump through as little hoops as possible.

Don't worry. Send your bitcoin and no one will know nothing. From every wallet.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 19, 2015, 07:31:03 AM

the blockchain doesnt track or record ip addresses, except the ip of the node that relayed the transaction. again, tracking the ip form where a transaction originated would take immense amounts of effort from an attacker.

Still its possible, thats why author of this topic need to understand everything.
Better explanation would be usefull to him for sure.

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Coinbase would be a good choice for you, since it is easy to use/ to send and to receive.
Every time it generates new addresses.
Also when an exchange was hacked the coins were sent to a site which was accessible only by TOR network.
Cant remember the site name but it was something like bitcoin foggy or something like that.
Search a bit and i think you will find what you are requiring.
Good Luck

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Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 10:12:58 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 19, 2015, 08:08:14 AM

Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 08:02:43 AM

Thank you all! I will most likely be using BC then. Sounds pretty safe and anonymous.
I will look into those other websites for another wallet.

Here is a full list of wallets out there : https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
For Desktop wallets I'd suggest : Bitcoin Core , Electrum , Multibit HD
for Android : Mycelium
for iOS : I'am not sure because I'am speaking for an experience and I never tested wallets on iOS device .

Stay away from Web wallets because they are the less safe . the safer are Paper wallet (free) and Hardware wallet which will cost your money . Paper wallet are mostly for receiving and not for sending because it will be a simple paper printed where there is Public adress + private key .

I checked both of these: "Bitcoin Core , Electrum"
The first wants to download 20GB of data into my computer. The second also seems to be some kind of software installation.

I just want to send some money to someone. That is all I want to do.
I can install software if thats what I have to do. But I thought I could send people money using a website that asks for my bank account/credit card like Paypal. That is fine with me.

What website should I use? I can use multiple websites if needed.

i think coinbase is going to be the easiest choice for you since you just want to buy bitcoin and send it to someone.

also if the amount is not so much you can trust an online wallet like coinbase.

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Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 10:12:58 AM

Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 19, 2015, 08:08:14 AM

Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 08:02:43 AM

Thank you all! I will most likely be using BC then. Sounds pretty safe and anonymous.
I will look into those other websites for another wallet.

Here is a full list of wallets out there : https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
For Desktop wallets I'd suggest : Bitcoin Core , Electrum , Multibit HD
for Android : Mycelium
for iOS : I'am not sure because I'am speaking for an experience and I never tested wallets on iOS device .

Stay away from Web wallets because they are the less safe . the safer are Paper wallet (free) and Hardware wallet which will cost your money . Paper wallet are mostly for receiving and not for sending because it will be a simple paper printed where there is Public adress + private key .

I checked both of these: "Bitcoin Core , Electrum"
The first wants to download 20GB of data into my computer. The second also seems to be some kind of software installation.

I just want to send some money to someone. That is all I want to do.
I can install software if thats what I have to do. But I thought I could send people money using a website that asks for my bank account/credit card like Paypal. That is fine with me.

What website should I use? I can use multiple websites if needed.

Well that what Bitcoin client is , it's an application that helps you receive and send Bitcoins . I don't suggest you to use Online website to hold your coins otherwise you may get hacked .
The file that Bitcoin Core is downloading is the Blockchain file that blockchain.info (and other block explorer website ) reads , if you want something easier then you could use Electrum as I said , there is "Receive" tab where you have your receiving adresses , you give them to someone and he send you the BTC . that's it .

and Personally I don't think there is no such at thing to send BTC using Paypal & Credit card . Unless you buy Bitcoins using those methods then send the Bitocoins . there is Virwox.com to do that

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 19, 2015, 08:08:14 AM

Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 08:02:43 AM

Thank you all! I will most likely be using BC then. Sounds pretty safe and anonymous.
I will look into those other websites for another wallet.

Here is a full list of wallets out there : https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
For Desktop wallets I'd suggest : Bitcoin Core , Electrum , Multibit HD
for Android : Mycelium
for iOS : I'am not sure because I'am speaking for an experience and I never tested wallets on iOS device .

Stay away from Web wallets because they are the less safe . the safer are Paper wallet (free) and Hardware wallet which will cost your money . Paper wallet are mostly for receiving and not for sending because it will be a simple paper printed where there is Public adress + private key .

I checked both of these: "Bitcoin Core , Electrum"
The first wants to download 20GB of data into my computer. The second also seems to be some kind of software installation.

I just want to send some money to someone. That is all I want to do.
I can install software if thats what I have to do. But I thought I could send people money using a website that asks for my bank account/credit card like Paypal. That is fine with me.

What website should I use? I can use multiple websites if needed.

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Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 06:56:31 AM

2. I do not want my real name, address, email or phone number known to anyone (recipient and the public).
I am fine with anyone knowing the amount of the transaction.

Unless you send them this info then they should never be able to get this unless that address is tied to you online somewhere. Many details can be found about a person just by googling that address so you need to be careful where you post it.

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Quote from: OmegaStarScream on July 19, 2015, 08:08:14 AM

Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 08:02:43 AM

Thank you all! I will most likely be using BC then. Sounds pretty safe and anonymous.
I will look into those other websites for another wallet.

Here is a full list of wallets out there : https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
For Desktop wallets I'd suggest : Bitcoin Core , Electrum , Multibit HD
for Android : Mycelium
for iOS : I'am not sure because I'am speaking for an experience and I never tested wallets on iOS device .

Stay away from Web wallets because they are the less safe . the safer are Paper wallet (free) and Hardware wallet which will cost your money . Paper wallet are mostly for receiving and not for sending because it will be a simple paper printed where there is Public adress + private key .

Just to add to your list. For iOS, I recommend Copay. I have it installed on my wife's iPhone and never got any issues of it. Very user friendly if you'd ask me. Also it looks like that android wallet that I use. The android wallet's name is just bitcoin wallet.

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Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 08:02:43 AM

Thank you all! I will most likely be using BC then. Sounds pretty safe and anonymous.
I will look into those other websites for another wallet.

blockchain used to be good, emphasis on used. recently, its been more or less to be unreliable with downtimes and vulnerabilities, i wouldnt recommend it.

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Quote from: Integic on July 19, 2015, 08:02:43 AM

Thank you all! I will most likely be using BC then. Sounds pretty safe and anonymous.
I will look into those other websites for another wallet.

Here is a full list of wallets out there : https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet
For Desktop wallets I'd suggest : Bitcoin Core , Electrum , Multibit HD
for Android : Mycelium
for iOS : I'am not sure because I'am speaking for an experience and I never tested wallets on iOS device .

Stay away from Web wallets because they are the less safe . the safer are Paper wallet (free) and Hardware wallet which will cost your money . Paper wallet are mostly for receiving and not for sending because it will be a simple paper printed where there is Public adress + private key .

Integic

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Thank you all! I will most likely be using BC then. Sounds pretty safe and anonymous.
I will look into those other websites for another wallet.

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