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Topic: Anonymity vs. KYC: The Pros and Cons of Cryptocurrency Exchanges (Read 788 times)

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Well, the normal thing is that those who are crypto, for nothing in the world we should accept that the conditions are to give kyc, be it for Casinos, for Exchanges, but it is as you say, the Government through the licenses and demands makes the sites have What to adopt the special permissions and for them to be able to enjoy it, you have to comply with the requirements of kyc, it is somewhat unfair, but for this the way out is to go towards decentralized exchanges and decentralized casinos, which obviously is not the same as a centralized casino or a centralized exchange, but so far that is what it is.

Not only is this unfair, it's also unsafe. Governments, in an attempt to increase their own level of control over citizens, encourage, and thus actually make inevitable, the collection of sensitive personal information of citizens by numerous random organizations that are practically responsible for nothing. And when people get used to giving their personal data everywhere, numerous scammers will certainly actively use this (and already use it). Therefore, the widespread requirement of KYC is not just an inconvenience, it is an unjustified decrease in the level of privacy and security, which is especially critical for the modern digital world.
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Cryptocurrency is a tool that primarily provides anonymity and freedom from totalitarian government control. If we undergo the KYC process, we lose this privilege and our cryptocurrency ceases to differ from regular fiat currency. In such a case, the question arises - why use cryptocurrency at all? If we allow the government to control our financial transactions, we lose our freedom of choice and risk falling under the influence of a totalitarian regime. Therefore, I am convinced that preserving anonymity and freedom in the use of cryptocurrency is its main advantage, and any measures aimed at controlling financial operations should be approached with caution.
Well, the normal thing is that those who are crypto, for nothing in the world we should accept that the conditions are to give kyc, be it for Casinos, for Exchanges, but it is as you say, the Government through the licenses and demands makes the sites have What to adopt the special permissions and for them to be able to enjoy it, you have to comply with the requirements of kyc, it is somewhat unfair, but for this the way out is to go towards decentralized exchanges and decentralized casinos, which obviously is not the same as a centralized casino or a centralized exchange, but so far that is what it is.

legendary
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the advantage is for the exchange to weed out bad people
It is trivial for a criminal to buy your leaked KYC data on the dark web for a couple of bucks and sign up to any centralized exchange using your details. KYC does not help an exchange to "weed out" criminals.

Leaking of KYC is not the disadvantage of it, that is a hacking and you could get the whole hot wallet hacked too and your money would be stolen, that's not really a default state of it.
If I keep my coins in my own wallet, then I can take security precautions against them being hacked. If I hand over my KYC details (or my coins) to a centralized exchange, then there is absolutely nothing I can do to protect them and history has shown us time after time after time that centralized exchanges have awful security and are being hacked constantly.

I believe that exchanges should always ask for KYC because it makes it that much more legal and that makes it that much better for governments to accept it as it is as well if you ask me.
So you want the government to step in and have complete control over bitcoin just as they do with fiat? Um.... no?
legendary
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However, if I take responsibility for the use of this financial instrument, then why would a third party require me to disclose confidential information? 

In my opinion, this requirement is illegal!

Because government wants to know everything about you and control you as much as possible. And it is natural for government. And if society will not resist an excessive interference then governments will collect as much control as possible. Bitcoin is one of an answers on that for lowering a pressure of over control. But if to expect that governments will ever stop collecting control, they won't. And by choosing bitcoin I say stop, I'm not a criminal and I don't want every my step being under control. The deal between me and gov is that I stay law-abiding and gov doesn't try to control everything in my life. And KYC everywhere is an example of over control as to me.
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Doing KYC and not doing have advantage and disadvantage, the advantage is for the exchange to weed out bad people, knows who they are dealing with and help to fish out users from countries that have been sanction, that is the benefits of doing KYC to any exchange. The disadvantage here is that exchanges are known for non-transparency, they can do whatever please them with people information. I have read where Binance leaked users KYC on the internet that was trending for weeks, such things are the thing we fear of not repeating by other exchanges.
Leaking of KYC is not the disadvantage of it, that is a hacking and you could get the whole hot wallet hacked too and your money would be stolen, that's not really a default state of it. The advantages and disadvantages should be seen from a legal stand point, if it is good legally then it is good, all the other things that illegal people do with it are beside the point because they do not want that to happen neither but it happens because some people are just bad.

I believe that exchanges should always ask for KYC because it makes it that much more legal and that makes it that much better for governments to accept it as it is as well if you ask me. The more legal it gets, the better for the users.
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You could still make use of Binance but of course the limit wont really be that something that bad too if you are really just intending on trading up some assets from other coins which doesnt involved
some fiat conversion or withdrawals which is something that really requires kyc specially when you do make use of p2p.Same goes on other top exchange platforms which you would really be
still need to be verified if you do make use of this feature which does means that it is really  that inevitable if we do speak about kyc which i couldnt deny
that it is really that leaving you no choice specially when you are pulling away your funds.

As I said I never pass KYC for crypto and still can find some ways of doing so even if when exchanging with fiat. (And there's no way of using Binance without passing KYC, and I don't use it.) Of course it is not as easy as if to trust every place asking KYC and which I'll hardly trust, but it is at least possible. Of course this makes me pass by some interesting proposals but I still don't pass KYC anyway. I wish it will be more options of direct bitcoin payments in the future as it will simplify most things.

I also never use exchange services and trading platforms that require mandatory KYC and AML procedures. 

In my opinion, the value of cryptocurrencies lies in their alternativeness to the modern financial system.  Using cryptocurrencies is always a risk and responsibility.  If I send my bitcoins to the wrong address, then no one will reimburse me for my losses! 

However, if I take responsibility for the use of this financial instrument, then why would a third party require me to disclose confidential information? 

In my opinion, this requirement is illegal!
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Doing KYC and not doing have advantage and disadvantage, the advantage is for the exchange to weed out bad people, knows who they are dealing with and help to fish out users from countries that have been sanction, that is the benefits of doing KYC to any exchange. The disadvantage here is that exchanges are known for non-transparency, they can do whatever please them with people information. I have read where Binance leaked users KYC on the internet that was trending for weeks, such things are the thing we fear of not repeating by other exchanges.

Benefits of KYC? Bad guys...? In the world, criminal and economic offenses involving fiat currencies occur on a much larger scale than with cryptocurrencies! And as for data leaks, take a look at this click.

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Hey everyone, I wanted to start a discussion around the topic of anonymity and KYC (know your customer) requirements in cryptocurrency exchanges. As we all know, there are exchanges that require extensive KYC verification, while others operate with little to no verification process.

On one hand, KYC can help prevent fraud, money laundering, and other illegal activities. It can also provide a sense of security and transparency for users who want to know who they're trading with and ensure that their funds are safe.

However, KYC can also compromise anonymity and privacy, which are often highly valued by cryptocurrency users. Some argue that the need for KYC goes against the decentralized and borderless nature of cryptocurrencies, and can even put users at risk of data breaches and identity theft.

So, what are your thoughts on exchanges with and without KYC? Do you prefer exchanges with strict KYC requirements, or do you value anonymity and privacy more and prefer to use exchanges with little to no verification process? What are the disadvantages and advantages of each approach? And what measures do you take to ensure your anonymity when exchanging cryptocurrencies?

Let's have an open and respectful discussion around this topic and hear everyone's perspectives. Looking forward to your input!


List of KYC data breaches.

Doing KYC and not doing have advantage and disadvantage, the advantage is for the exchange to weed out bad people, knows who they are dealing with and help to fish out users from countries that have been sanction, that is the benefits of doing KYC to any exchange. The disadvantage here is that exchanges are known for non-transparency, they can do whatever please them with people information. I have read where Binance leaked users KYC on the internet that was trending for weeks, such things are the thing we fear of not repeating by other exchanges.
legendary
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You could still make use of Binance but of course the limit wont really be that something that bad too if you are really just intending on trading up some assets from other coins which doesnt involved
some fiat conversion or withdrawals which is something that really requires kyc specially when you do make use of p2p.Same goes on other top exchange platforms which you would really be
still need to be verified if you do make use of this feature which does means that it is really  that inevitable if we do speak about kyc which i couldnt deny
that it is really that leaving you no choice specially when you are pulling away your funds.

As I said I never pass KYC for crypto and still can find some ways of doing so even if when exchanging with fiat. (And there's no way of using Binance without passing KYC, and I don't use it.) Of course it is not as easy as if to trust every place asking KYC and which I'll hardly trust, but it is at least possible. Of course this makes me pass by some interesting proposals but I still don't pass KYC anyway. I wish it will be more options of direct bitcoin payments in the future as it will simplify most things.
hero member
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Many crypto exchanges require KYC only if a user needs to make transactions in fiat currencies. Where fiat deposits are involved, anonymity isn’t possible from the source of deposits (payment systems or bank cards).

And many like Binance then start requiring KYC for everything, and many even if don't ask KYC for every transaction have limits on transactions without KYC anyway. And that's why we expect DEX will develop as intensive as possible. As for me I never pass KYC in crypto so any type of KYC is unacceptable for me. If an exchange is requiring it just for fiat then okay, but more exchanges start asking it for everything and it is definitely not okay. Crypto should be free of KYC.
You could still make use of Binance but of course the limit wont really be that something that bad too if you are really just intending on trading up some assets from other coins which doesnt involved
some fiat conversion or withdrawals which is something that really requires kyc specially when you do make use of p2p.Same goes on other top exchange platforms which you would really be
still need to be verified if you do make use of this feature which does means that it is really  that inevitable if we do speak about kyc which i couldnt deny
that it is really that leaving you no choice specially when you are pulling away your funds.
legendary
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Many crypto exchanges require KYC only if a user needs to make transactions in fiat currencies. Where fiat deposits are involved, anonymity isn’t possible from the source of deposits (payment systems or bank cards).

And many like Binance then start requiring KYC for everything, and many even if don't ask KYC for every transaction have limits on transactions without KYC anyway. And that's why we expect DEX will develop as intensive as possible. As for me I never pass KYC in crypto so any type of KYC is unacceptable for me. If an exchange is requiring it just for fiat then okay, but more exchanges start asking it for everything and it is definitely not okay. Crypto should be free of KYC.
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Cryptocurrency is a tool that primarily provides anonymity and freedom from totalitarian government control. If we undergo the KYC process, we lose this privilege and our cryptocurrency ceases to differ from regular fiat currency. In such a case, the question arises - why use cryptocurrency at all? If we allow the government to control our financial transactions, we lose our freedom of choice and risk falling under the influence of a totalitarian regime. Therefore, I am convinced that preserving anonymity and freedom in the use of cryptocurrency is its main advantage, and any measures aimed at controlling financial operations should be approached with caution.
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Many crypto exchanges require KYC only if a user needs to make transactions in fiat currencies. Where fiat deposits are involved, anonymity isn’t possible from the source of deposits (payment systems or bank cards).
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It is difficult to stay completely anonymous in the current generation where each and every device, app, website is tracking us in some way or the other.
There are people who prefer to stay anonymous and use anti-trackers to stay away from being tracked.
Talking about me, I try to stay as anonymous as possible if at some point I have to give up anonymity in order to get ease of access and convenience then I do give it up.
For example using binance to get access to a larger volume of coins for trading. I do give anonymity in such cases.
There’s a lot of ways for them to get access on our personal details, some site are selling it on a black market and that’s normal nowadays, if you stay anonymous you should not open any account on any social media because there’s already an issue like this from them. Anyway, CEX are following the order from their regulations or else they will not be allowed to operate. The only problem here is that some CEX are not too honest about the safety of our details, especially what happened to FTX where KYC is required, for sure its also compromise.
The black market will be a destination for people who want to get personal data because it is a place to sell and buy confidential data from every website user. That is a risk that everyone who does KYC must face, but every website that asks its users to do it will be very careful and protect their confidential data.

If someone does not want his personal data to be distributed by irresponsible people, he does not need to enter the original data. Still, now it is difficult because the user will be asked to send his documents to the site. And if someone really wants to avoid this, he doesn't need to use the internet for business or related to finance because later there will be regulations that ask him to do KYC.
legendary
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FYI, I do not hold my coins on exchanges. When I need to buy or sell with my locals, I make a deposit there and do the trade. Still, we gave exchanges control over our coins. Sometimes when you reset your password or change your email, Exchanges disable withdrawals for 24 Hours for security reasons. But, I liked the idea, to be honest. This is not what we do every day. So, it won't harm. Unfortunately, we had to trust a third party here because of a fewer options available.
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What I don't like in this situation is that I deprived of choice if I want such a "security" service or not. They make me trust my personal data to them even if I don't really trust them. Of course we can talk that banks don't ask us too, but bitcoin is the alternative and I don't want involving a bank practice while using crypto. If I want such service I can easily use banks directly with all old fiat system (and of course I use it because bitcoin payments are not spread enough yet). And of course I understand that sometimes if you need exchanging bitcoin you are just deprived of choice of not using service with KYC. I expect there will be fewer such problems with wider spreading of bitcoin.
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It is difficult to stay completely anonymous in the current generation where each and every device, app, website is tracking us in some way or the other.
There are people who prefer to stay anonymous and use anti-trackers to stay away from being tracked.
Talking about me, I try to stay as anonymous as possible if at some point I have to give up anonymity in order to get ease of access and convenience then I do give it up.
For example using binance to get access to a larger volume of coins for trading. I do give anonymity in such cases.
There’s a lot of ways for them to get access on our personal details, some site are selling it on a black market and that’s normal nowadays, if you stay anonymous you should not open any account on any social media because there’s already an issue like this from them. Anyway, CEX are following the order from their regulations or else they will not be allowed to operate. The only problem here is that some CEX are not too honest about the safety of our details, especially what happened to FTX where KYC is required, for sure its also compromise.
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My suggestion is to implement a hybrid method (to a certain amount) to handle both the KYC and the Anonymity. If it KYC perspective, there will be a lot of advantages to users as well. it can stop third-party scams. Also, in order to enhance fund security, maybe it's time to introduce a Know Your Exchange mechanism which provides information like reserves, liabilities, etc. of an exchange.


Proof of reserves? It wont really be necessary since their main neither hot or cold wallets could really be determined or could be known out in speaking with these exchangers which they wont really be reaching out that
particular popularity or recognition if the masses cant be able to do so since everything could really be seen publicly.It is really just that a matter of things when it comes to your choices whether you are
really that able to deal up with the current set-up where these platforms are already that imposing those KYC.We know that there are still platforms offers no kyc which you could make use of their
services but there are really things which you do leave no choice but to comply or verify out specially if you are really that in make use of P2P which i could say that
it is really important for me.
hero member
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It is difficult to stay completely anonymous in the current generation where each and every device, app, website is tracking us in some way or the other.
There are people who prefer to stay anonymous and use anti-trackers to stay away from being tracked.
Talking about me, I try to stay as anonymous as possible if at some point I have to give up anonymity in order to get ease of access and convenience then I do give it up.
For example using binance to get access to a larger volume of coins for trading. I do give anonymity in such cases.

Apps are tracking you but they can only track everything. They have only the data that you give them.

When you go to a store and pay with bitcoin all they have is date and time of the transaction and the address that was used. They don't have your name and address, your date of birth, they don't even know if you're a man or a woman.

That's where the harm of KYC comes into play.

They force you to give them that information so that it can get associated with your wallet and your wallet with your online activity. Suddenly they know that your coins came from a signature campaign, they know your forum nickname, post history. You post about a hardware wallet that you use, you give them other exchanges that you have account on because you post about it on the forum.

KYC is worse than a tracking app.
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I think that for average person, crypto exchange that asks for KYC and is regulated is a better choice but there is another problem and I can't figure out why is that problem ignored by governments.
Let's discuss about Binance, an exchange that asks for KYC and knows its customers. It's China based, right? It asks for KYC documents to its worldwide users and it has millions of active members. Isn't this a concern for USA, UK, Germany, France ? Why is it okay for every country to just ignore the fact that foreign companies ask KYC to their citizens? Why doesn't for example USA gets offended when China-based exchange collects identity documents of your citizens?

I think that governments need exclusive permission in business in this case. For example, every Italian person that registers on Binance should be manually approved by government agencies on behalf of Binance and Binance should never have access on citizens information, I mean to copy and move data and view of that info should be permitted in only certain cases.

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Hey everyone, I wanted to start a discussion around the topic of anonymity and KYC (know your customer) requirements in cryptocurrency exchanges. As we all know, there are exchanges that require extensive KYC verification, while others operate with little to no verification process.

On one hand, KYC can help prevent fraud, money laundering, and other illegal activities. It can also provide a sense of security and transparency for users who want to know who they're trading with and ensure that their funds are safe.

However, KYC can also compromise anonymity and privacy, which are often highly valued by cryptocurrency users. Some argue that the need for KYC goes against the decentralized and borderless nature of cryptocurrencies, and can even put users at risk of data breaches and identity theft.

So, what are your thoughts on exchanges with and without KYC? Do you prefer exchanges with strict KYC requirements, or do you value anonymity and privacy more and prefer to use exchanges with little to no verification process? What are the disadvantages and advantages of each approach? And what measures do you take to ensure your anonymity when exchanging cryptocurrencies?

Let's have an open and respectful discussion around this topic and hear everyone's perspectives. Looking forward to your input!


List of KYC data breaches.

My suggestion is to implement a hybrid method (to a certain amount) to handle both the KYC and the Anonymity. If it KYC perspective, there will be a lot of advantages to users as well. it can stop third-party scams. Also, in order to enhance fund security, maybe it's time to introduce a Know Your Exchange mechanism which provides information like reserves, liabilities, etc. of an exchange.

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