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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

You could use it if no one came back for it after an hour or so, although you will have to stay that long for what could be something so trivial of an amount. I say an hour because there are times wherein players still come back to their machines after a smoke or coffee break, or to eat something then play again. If no one comes back, just take it. Who cares about it anyway? It's as good as being lost if someone forgets it. Also, casinos wouldn't really hold you at gunpoint should you come and get those vouchers. As for the credit, it'll just be your conscience that you'll be against, so you decide whether you'll get those credits from the machines or not.

It varies depending on the credit amount left on the slot whether you'll decide to use it or not as most of the time, people will leave their slots especially regular players and advise casino staffs before leaving to avoid these from happening. Also, there are instanses where someone used these slot machines that had these credits inside and was advice to pay the amount they've played especially if the casino staffs was informed. I'm not sure about other casinos but these are what I've personally saw while gambling.

Also, it's quiet common to see some slots that has some credit left on it which isn't a lot where people can just use it.

It would be vile for the casino staff to not prevent you from using the machine while knowing that there is still someone using those with their own credits. It's scheming if they let you play in it and they see you without informing you first. Anyway, this has always been what I observe in casinos. No one really leaves their machines with balances without informing the closest staff. It's as good as lost when you leave with your credits for too long - at least from where I'm at.

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Legal or not, it's not mine, so I'd better move to another slot machine or alert the security team or another employee that a cash voucher is lying on the machine itself or the seat. But that rarely happens because people will check the place before leaving. And if vouchers are lying there, the amount won't be big either, maybe just small change Grin

So we should avoid looking for problems using the voucher because it's not ours. But it seems like other people can use the voucher, and if it contains a decent amount of funds, it is a "gift" for you.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

Unwritten official rule inside the casino premises that never take those vouchers not unless it's clear that the previous player intentionally left it.

It's just that if these vouchers are ignored, other stalkers will likely take advantage therefore just go with the flow and have that to ourselves. Some staff are serious about looking at these attempters but there are staff that just allow those stalkers to look for those vouchers as long as they are not creating a serious problem inside the casino.

If no one is looking, someone can take that voucher, and used it like nothing happened lol.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

Legally and technically they are not yours to play, but common sense says, that it wouldn't be practical to leave those coins in. If everyone thought that would be a way to go, no one could even play that machine with their own coins before those left in coins are used. And in reality there's no one in the world going to make you pay back those coins. It's just a minor morality issue where's no right answer. I myself have played those coins multiple times, because no one leaves even $5 in. It's always in cents.

And if you are feeling guilty, you can always leave that amount of credits in after you stop playing.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

You could use it if no one came back for it after an hour or so, although you will have to stay that long for what could be something so trivial of an amount. I say an hour because there are times wherein players still come back to their machines after a smoke or coffee break, or to eat something then play again. If no one comes back, just take it. Who cares about it anyway? It's as good as being lost if someone forgets it. Also, casinos wouldn't really hold you at gunpoint should you come and get those vouchers. As for the credit, it'll just be your conscience that you'll be against, so you decide whether you'll get those credits from the machines or not.

It varies depending on the credit amount left on the slot whether you'll decide to use it or not as most of the time, people will leave their slots especially regular players and advise casino staffs before leaving to avoid these from happening. Also, there are instanses where someone used these slot machines that had these credits inside and was advice to pay the amount they've played especially if the casino staffs was informed. I'm not sure about other casinos but these are what I've personally saw while gambling.

Also, it's quiet common to see some slots that has some credit left on it which isn't a lot where people can just use it.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

You could use it if no one came back for it after an hour or so, although you will have to stay that long for what could be something so trivial of an amount. I say an hour because there are times wherein players still come back to their machines after a smoke or coffee break, or to eat something then play again. If no one comes back, just take it. Who cares about it anyway? It's as good as being lost if someone forgets it. Also, casinos wouldn't really hold you at gunpoint should you come and get those vouchers. As for the credit, it'll just be your conscience that you'll be against, so you decide whether you'll get those credits from the machines or not.

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You come to the casino to play, so just play. Guards in the casino are suspicious already of all the people there. You don't want them to draw the conclusion.

If it's not yours, just leave it for someone who may come back for it or the staff will just keep it til someone comes for it. When he comes for it, he will request footage and find out. That will be a bigger problem for you. It may just be the cause for you getting banned from that establishment.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

Yes, you can legally use it after all there's no authorization needed for these to be claimed.

In the first place, we can't blame the one who picked it up. As you said, it's a general rule of thumb not to leave those winnings.

When you are in a physical casino, expect that there are lots of people around sneaking for players who might leave an unclaimed winning. But at some casinos, if casino staff caught those persons who intentionally scouting several machines for an unclaimed voucher, they might be subject to a request to leave the casino.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

Sounds like a pretty dumb and nonsense "rule" that you've made up, just like a player would be pretty dumb to walk away from a slot machine that still has credit. I personally might avoid using someone elses credit on a machine, but would not necessarily look down on someone who would do it. If a machine is clearly vacant, as in - no drinks or anything left around it, then it is fair game to play on it and you should not expect it to be reserved in any way. Most casinos would not look too kindly on any person leaving a machine unavailable for play like that anyway. I don't consider it any different than $10 that someone might find on the floor with no identifiable owner in sight, sometimes you lose that $10 and sometimes you find what others have lost.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

I think legally not as there is cash in there,however I have seen people leaving only dust amounts like 0.10 to 0.20 dollars which they got mad and left the game not giving a damn about such low amount in such cases other people have put money of their own and kept playing,the person who left did not turn back so nothing wrong here.

However personally I would never do that as I have seen when I was working in a casino in the 2000-2005 years that some people that played with max bet left money intentionally in there and told the casino people to not let anyone to play that slot as they were going home to get money and coming back again,no one touched such slot machines.

So it would really be on case to case basis on which it would really be just that depending if there are rules or not but just simply with that common sense then its not really just that right to continue if ever there are credits
or funds that had been still sitting there because you dont know whether those bettors or gamblers had just left out temporarily or would really be coming back but there are indeed some situations on which leaving up some dust amounts and not something that you should bother yourself. We do know that there are really that people who do really leave out due to frustration on which your common sense will tell you that it isnt bad to finish
on what he had started and this is the time that you would really be adding up your own. If the amount involved is big then it would really be just that right that you should really be that stopping on making use of it,
if ever you had continued it and someone do make out some complaints then it would really be definitely be starting up some serious argumentation or complaints basing up on what you have done and this is something
that we dont really like to happen right?

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Quote from: Text on September 26, 2023, 07:40:48 AM

Yes, you’re correct. In most jurisdictions, credits left on a slot machine are supposed to be turned over to the casino and no one else is allowed to claim it. If you find a cash-out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, it’s generally not considered legal for you to use it. The money technically belongs to the casino. If you try to keep it or cash it in, you could potentially be charged with a misdemeanor crime. The actual value of the voucher would determine the penalty, i.e., whether it’s considered a misdemeanor or felony. So, it’s always best to avoid using credits or vouchers that were left behind by someone else.

https://www.casinocitytimes.com/john-robison/article/ask-the-slot-expert-cashing-out-money-left-on-a-slot-machine-63941
https://kdvr.com/news/problem-solvers/outrage-over-casinos-prosecuting-gamblers-who-use-small-abandoned-slot-credits
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/dec/20/forget-a-casino-ticket-heres-what-happens-to-the-m

Better if we wait for someone else to claim it before we surrender it. We don't know maybe those players only took the bathroom, have taken a break, or something. I know there are also greedy people who can notice it and lie that it was theirs.

In order to be sure we can ask the owners to check their CCTV's ( I'm sure they have it ). That was still a fine penalty if we are only going to pay the exact amount of the credits or the cash-out vouchers but I heard that some penalties are times 10 of the amount. Imagine that? But whatever, we must still avoid stealing as it's also morally wrong. We can get a lot of bad karmas other than the fines if we insist to.

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Yes, you’re correct. In most jurisdictions, credits left on a slot machine are supposed to be turned over to the casino and no one else is allowed to claim it. If you find a cash-out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, it’s generally not considered legal for you to use it. The money technically belongs to the casino. If you try to keep it or cash it in, you could potentially be charged with a misdemeanor crime. The actual value of the voucher would determine the penalty, i.e., whether it’s considered a misdemeanor or felony. So, it’s always best to avoid using credits or vouchers that were left behind by someone else.

https://www.casinocitytimes.com/john-robison/article/ask-the-slot-expert-cashing-out-money-left-on-a-slot-machine-63941
https://kdvr.com/news/problem-solvers/outrage-over-casinos-prosecuting-gamblers-who-use-small-abandoned-slot-credits
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/dec/20/forget-a-casino-ticket-heres-what-happens-to-the-m

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Legally I don't think it's a problem unless the casiuno stated otherwise. You may come across problems with trying to explain to the person who used the machine prior to you though since, well, people are irrational, more noticeably so in casinos imo. I mean if cases like this can be legally attacked, I reckon arcades and the like would've been rather profitable for scammers.

So to avoid any major issues, you can simply wait, maybe call the attention of some staff and make sure they know you're playing on a machine with prior credits in it, making sure that there's no player out there who was playing on it for at least maybe 10 minutes? If there was, you can wait or maybe just straight up ask the staff to reset the credits itself so that the responsibility doesn't lie on you but on the casino themselves instead.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

The credits has no infringed ownership itself which is why you can use it if the the real owner abandoned it already. It’s like a dollar on the floor which no one pick up. There’s no ownership for credits unless once it was left behind. Besides, you can always refund it once the owner claim it and prove ownership using the cctv footage but I doubt anyone is willing to go on that extent just for the penny credits.

Easy answer is yes! You can use it especially if the machine is already free. But make sure that the previous player is long gone before you so that you will have no problem once you use it already.

You just don't know mate, maybe those who left it will come back later and then contest against you that the individual has money on that machine. I heard stories that if you do that, I mean getting the credit and play, that you might be ban on that casino if they found out that you did it.

That is just a story though that I heard from a friend of mine who works on the casino. And there is also that one gambler a friend of mine who says that same. Specially if the person that left the credit will complain that you play the money even if it is just a penny.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

The credits has no infringed ownership itself which is why you can use it if the the real owner abandoned it already. It’s like a dollar on the floor which no one pick up. There’s no ownership for credits unless once it was left behind. Besides, you can always refund it once the owner claim it and prove ownership using the cctv footage but I doubt anyone is willing to go on that extent just for the penny credits.

Easy answer is yes! You can use it especially if the machine is already free. But make sure that the previous player is long gone before you so that you will have no problem once you use it already.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

Very good question.

I will give you one example, this is my personal experienced wit this kind of scenario. I honestly didn't know that there was money on that particular slot machine an so I put some money on it because I wanted to play that game. However, I realized that there are still little money left on it, so I was taken aback because as a general rule, you shouldn't do that.

And then so the owner comes back, the lady said that she still has some money on it and I acknowledged that yeah it was my mistake and I didn't know that. And so I said that I will withdraw it and give it back to her. But for some strange reasons, she didn't want to and she argue with me.

So I said, WTF, here just it it all, you piece of s**t, it's just a small amount for you. Clearly, I was pissed off and leave that area.

As a general rule, yes, you can't take that credit. You may call the assistance of casino employee and they are the one who's going to withdraw it, just to be safe.

For my case, not sure if the lady is willing to leave the money or just put it a trap to someone like me.

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Quote from: mvdheuvel1983 on September 26, 2023, 06:11:52 AM

There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

I think legally not as there is cash in there,however I have seen people leaving only dust amounts like 0.10 to 0.20 dollars which they got mad and left the game not giving a damn about such low amount in such cases other people have put money of their own and kept playing,the person who left did not turn back so nothing wrong here.

However personally I would never do that as I have seen when I was working in a casino in the 2000-2005 years that some people that played with max bet left money intentionally in there and told the casino people to not let anyone to play that slot as they were going home to get money and coming back again,no one touched such slot machines.

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There is a general rule in land based casinos that a gambler shouldn't take credits left on a slot machine by someone else. Basically, from what I understand, if there is still credit showing on a slot machine. Don't cash out or add to your money you put into the machine. Right? The question is if you find a cash out voucher resting on the machine itself or on the seat, can you legally use it?

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