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legendary
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June 26, 2015, 03:23:11 PM
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I would add Dogma remains our greatest enemy, it can be argued that dogma is a product of ignorance.

Dogma itself isn't a problem. For example, the belief that the Constitution and the values it represents are the cornerstone of American society is a type of dogmatic belief. Dogma itself doesn't pose a problem unless dogma intertwines with fundamentalism, where the violation of dogmatic beliefs calls for unduly harsh punishment.

Dogma by definition is the acceptance of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true. This is a problem, you should only accept anything that you yourself have verified.

Dictionary.com lists four definitions:

1. an official system of principles or tenets concerning faith, morals, behavior, etc., as of a church.

2. a specific tenet or doctrine authoritatively laid down, as by a church

3. prescribed doctrine proclaimed as unquestionably true by a particular group

4. a settled or established opinion, belief, or principle: the classic dogma of objectivity in scientific observation.

Especially as in the case of the fourth definition, not every definition of dogma requires the negative aspects as you have presented them. The American belief in constitutional democracy and republicanism are both dogmatic, as is the notion of objectivity in scientific observation, as the definition points out. These are things society overwhelming accepts as good things, so the problem is not with dogma, it's fundamentalism. A global dogmatic belief that it is wrong to harm other individuals would be immensely beneficial to humanity, but there are religious fundamentalists to who believe harming others is justified by their religious dogmatic beliefs. The problem there isn't dogma, it's fundamentalism.

Which constitution? As far as I know it has been amended 27 times, the only constant is change. A shared belief that its a bad idea to harm others is not based on dogma, but rather self knowledge.

"Constitutional democracy" is the dogmatic belief, not the Constitution itself. The fact that we keep amending it to make it work for us instead of just chucking it out and declaring the idea a failure when it doesn't proves my point further. We are dogmatic in our adherence to constitutional democracy and republicanism. And a shared belief that its a bad idea to harm can come from self knowledge and be dogmatic. They're not mutually exclusive. That's kinda my whole point in saying dogma isn't the problem, fundamentalism is.
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I would add Dogma remains our greatest enemy, it can be argued that dogma is a product of ignorance.

Dogma itself isn't a problem. For example, the belief that the Constitution and the values it represents are the cornerstone of American society is a type of dogmatic belief. Dogma itself doesn't pose a problem unless dogma intertwines with fundamentalism, where the violation of dogmatic beliefs calls for unduly harsh punishment.

Dogma by definition is the acceptance of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true. This is a problem, you should only accept anything that you yourself have verified.

Dictionary.com lists four definitions:

1. an official system of principles or tenets concerning faith, morals, behavior, etc., as of a church.

2. a specific tenet or doctrine authoritatively laid down, as by a church

3. prescribed doctrine proclaimed as unquestionably true by a particular group

4. a settled or established opinion, belief, or principle: the classic dogma of objectivity in scientific observation.

Especially as in the case of the fourth definition, not every definition of dogma requires the negative aspects as you have presented them. The American belief in constitutional democracy and republicanism are both dogmatic, as is the notion of objectivity in scientific observation, as the definition points out. These are things society overwhelming accepts as good things, so the problem is not with dogma, it's fundamentalism. A global dogmatic belief that it is wrong to harm other individuals would be immensely beneficial to humanity, but there are religious fundamentalists to who believe harming others is justified by their religious dogmatic beliefs. The problem there isn't dogma, it's fundamentalism.

Which constitution? As far as I know it has been amended 27 times, the only constant is change. A shared belief that its a bad idea to harm others is not based on dogma, but rather self knowledge.
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I would add Dogma remains our greatest enemy, it can be argued that dogma is a product of ignorance.

Dogma itself isn't a problem. For example, the belief that the Constitution and the values it represents are the cornerstone of American society is a type of dogmatic belief. Dogma itself doesn't pose a problem unless dogma intertwines with fundamentalism, where the violation of dogmatic beliefs calls for unduly harsh punishment.

Dogma by definition is the acceptance of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true. This is a problem, you should only accept anything that you yourself have verified.

Dictionary.com lists four definitions:

1. an official system of principles or tenets concerning faith, morals, behavior, etc., as of a church.

2. a specific tenet or doctrine authoritatively laid down, as by a church

3. prescribed doctrine proclaimed as unquestionably true by a particular group

4. a settled or established opinion, belief, or principle: the classic dogma of objectivity in scientific observation.

Especially as in the case of the fourth definition, not every definition of dogma requires the negative aspects as you have presented them. The American belief in constitutional democracy and republicanism are both dogmatic, as is the notion of objectivity in scientific observation, as the definition points out. These are things society overwhelming accepts as good things, so the problem is not with dogma, it's fundamentalism. A global dogmatic belief that it is wrong to harm other individuals would be immensely beneficial to humanity, but there are religious fundamentalists to who believe harming others is justified by their religious dogmatic beliefs. The problem there isn't dogma, it's fundamentalism.
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I would add Dogma remains our greatest enemy, it can be argued that dogma is a product of ignorance.

Dogma itself isn't a problem. For example, the belief that the Constitution and the values it represents are the cornerstone of American society is a type of dogmatic belief. Dogma itself doesn't pose a problem unless dogma intertwines with fundamentalism, where the violation of dogmatic beliefs calls for unduly harsh punishment.

Dogma by definition is the acceptance of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true. This is a problem, you should only accept anything that you yourself have verified.
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I would add Dogma remains our greatest enemy, it can be argued that dogma is a product of ignorance.

Dogma itself isn't a problem. For example, the belief that the Constitution and the values it represents are the cornerstone of American society is a type of dogmatic belief. Dogma itself doesn't pose a problem unless dogma intertwines with fundamentalism, where the violation of dogmatic beliefs calls for unduly harsh punishment.
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Why so self centered? Lack of intellect has been killing the quality of humanity itself. Reading, learning, playing, such sctivities should never be halted. They boost creativity and enthusiasm in a person accomplishing fulfillment of happiness. A little intellectualism would do much benefit to not just america but the whole damn world.

So true
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well intellectuallity its like you know you do you dont know you teach i mean intellectuals are needed to direct instructions to people who really are knoleadge workers and do and some intellectualss just tend to try to teach and even sometimes their not executeves and dont do nothing of good pourpouses even some nervouse and wrong ideas but ideas of even politics are needed.
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I would add Dogma remains our greatest enemy, it can be argued that dogma is a product of ignorance.
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
I for one welcome ignorance. Since we compete for jobs and money in our capitalist system, the more stupid people there are in the economy the better off I am.
Absolutely correct, fellow capitalist, right up until the moment ignorance creates enough fear and hatred to spark violence that touches you. Then, when suddenly you realize ignorance was the only true enemy all along, it'll be too late.

"The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
-Socrates, Diogenes Laertius.
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Of course we need a job just to live. But few people focus on the importance of what might exist after life. If it is a different life, one that depends on how a person lives this life, it might be important to consider it. After all, if we don't consider it, how can we say that we can't know about it?

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I for one welcome ignorance. Since we compete for jobs and money in our capitalist system, the more stupid people there are in the economy the better off I am. So please do prattle on about your conspiracy theories during any job interviews. 
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Since the Big Bang hasn't been proven, except by quantum math that can also be used to prove that the Big Bang never existed, we are curious about whether or not it is intellectualism that is destroying America, rather than believing the evidences that God exists, that are in front of our eyes throughout the whole universe. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395

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In California, since 1980, higher education spending has decreased by 13 percent in inflation adjusted dollars, whereas spending on California's prisons and associated correctional programs has skyrocketed by 436 percent.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/06/california-prisons-colleges_n_1863101.html

The US has More Jails than Colleges
Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/jails-colleges-map-prisoners-live/#cRZG1m1LrAizFGjZ.99
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I don't attribute these problems to anti-intellectualism. Racism isn't an anti-intellectualism problem, it's a fundamentalist and anti-empathy problem. Creating artificial categorizations of people so you can differentiate yourself from them is about antipathy: you don't see a person, you see a Jew, feminist, black, gay, immigrant, Muslim, or whatever other bullshit label you stick on people so you can convince yourself they're different than you. And because you have convinced yourself you're different, you feel no empathy to them because you can't relate to their humanity. And when anti-empathy meets fundamentalism, you get tragedy. This is the great malaise of American society. Anti-intellectualism is certainly a problem, but it is not necessarily this problem.
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https://youtu.be/PZm8TTLR2NU
Mala in se violence enabled by fundamentally racist "gun control" laws* (...) disarming only law-abiding, mentally-sound, sober victims, for violent criminals' safety.
Gun control is racist? So in your mind "law-abiding, mentally sound, sober victims" represents one race, and "violent criminals" represents another? I bet I can guess which race is which in that equation.

Black Egyptian Jesus, please save me from these racist redneck pseudo-intellectuals. Seriously I can't believe you thought you'd get away with a comment that ignorant,  this is the internet not your local KKK congregation. Find some intellectual rigor or get the fuck out, because right now you're an embarrassment to the internet and the species (this includes your precious white race).
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Americans should ofcourse punish and serve justice to the racist and ammunition friendly behavior in the society that has unfortunately resulted in nine dead bodies in Charleston, but they need to do a little more thorough research regarding it. There is always a deep reason behind such dysfunctional activities.

Agreed. Psychologists should use these cunts to research over, because these scums are what totally sick in the mind really means. Instead of locking them in a jail and trying to change them as a person, 'research' over them and find out who the f they really are
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Americans should ofcourse punish and serve justice to the racist and ammunition friendly behavior in the society that has unfortunately resulted in nine dead bodies in Charleston, but they need to do a little more thorough research regarding it. There is always a deep reason behind such dysfunctional activities.
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June 24, 2015, 04:42:14 AM
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There are many kinds of truth. And there are many kinds of intellectualism. In the great Venn diagram of life, they don't always overlap
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June 24, 2015, 04:28:55 AM
#8
There is a great sayings such as "Leadership consists not in degrees of technique but in traits of character; it requires moral rather than athletic or intellectual effort, and it imposes on both leader and follower alike the burdens of self-restraint."
Lewis H. Lapham

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June 24, 2015, 04:21:06 AM
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/decries anti-intellectualism
/decries "gun violence"
/decries racism

Mala in se violence enabled by fundamentally racist "gun control" laws* according to public records (legislative history, intent, contemporary newspapers' articles & columns back when modern "gun control" began), advocated, enacted and enforced by those who simultaneously claim to be intellectuals but act like morons who shouldn't be held responsible for their indefensible evil of *disarming only law-abiding, mentally-sound, sober victims, for violent criminals' safety.

Epic fail.
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