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Topic: ANTMINER S2 upgrade kit? EDIT: BITMAIN WHERE ARE YOU?!?! (Read 35658 times)

legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
I like that bitcoins have an actual economy of utility, where they can be directly exchanged for goods and services in a variety of ways. Most altcoins don't have that, most of 'em never will, and it's really the only thing I care about.

I believe it is foolish to hold any altcoin long term.  No matter what any developer claims; you know they store their value in BTC.

shapeshift.io very effectively enables cross chain transactions; effectively creating one economy out of all supported coins.  I can confirm their api and skeleton implementation are well designed, and their customer support will resolve an issue; if you have one.

While I have always felt it is the responsibility of every miner to only use pools that represent less than 12% of the total Network hashrate; it is also important that: the Network be distributed geographically.  

Currently too much of the total Network hashrate is geolocated in China.  Bitmain has repeatedly claimed they support a distributed Network; but they like any corporation, will always be motivated by profit.  Splitting their pool into 2 distinct pools; is proof they are aware of the situation.

Buying miners from a Chinese Manufacturer will ultimately only increase the geographic centralization of the Network in China.  Bitmain will have a new miner to populate their own mines, and or sell to us; in early March.  Please don't support Bitmain unless they start actually supporting the distribution of the Network.

I would rather make GPU rigs and mine altcoins, than support the centralization of the Network in China.  Hopefully your new Bitfury miners will be complete soon; and I will be able to get some new miners in good conscience.



I like the way you think  Grin

But nothing will stop the "Centralization" of Bitcoin,well a algo swap would but that will never be allowed to happen.......

I've gone back to GPU's too...................after spending all my btc on ASIC upgrade after ASIC upgrade to keep up with ever increasing diff/power consumption ratio  Roll Eyes

Here's hoping an "altcoin" takes over  Wink

BTW,it makes NO matter if the Chinese,Americans or Russians end up centralizing Bitcoin,ANY centralization is BAD............
hero member
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1009
I like that bitcoins have an actual economy of utility, where they can be directly exchanged for goods and services in a variety of ways. Most altcoins don't have that, most of 'em never will, and it's really the only thing I care about.

I believe it is foolish to hold any altcoin long term.  No matter what any developer claims; you know they store their value in BTC.

shapeshift.io very effectively enables cross chain transactions; effectively creating one economy out of all supported coins.  I can confirm their api and skeleton implementation are well designed, and their customer support will resolve an issue; if you have one.

While I have always felt it is the responsibility of every miner to only use pools that represent less than 12% of the total Network hashrate; it is also important that: the Network be distributed geographically. 

Currently too much of the total Network hashrate is geolocated in China.  Bitmain has repeatedly claimed they support a distributed Network; but they like any corporation, will always be motivated by profit.  Splitting their pool into 2 distinct pools; is proof they are aware of the situation.

Buying miners from a Chinese Manufacturer will ultimately only increase the geographic centralization of the Network in China.  Bitmain will have a new miner to populate their own mines, and or sell to us; in early March.  Please don't support Bitmain unless they start actually supporting the distribution of the Network.

I would rather make GPU rigs and mine altcoins, than support the centralization of the Network in China.  Hopefully your new Bitfury miners will be complete soon; and I will be able to get some new miners in good conscience.

legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1865
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
I like that bitcoins have an actual economy of utility, where they can be directly exchanged for goods and services in a variety of ways. Most altcoins don't have that, most of 'em never will, and it's really the only thing I care about.
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1076
A humble Siberian miner
Another advantage is that sha-256 ASIC miners are able to catch a block in solo bitcoin mining. At least in theory.  Wink
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
Just yet another reason why we all switched to mainly GPU mining

Speak for yourself, dude. And probably in the Altcoin mining section.

Ah be like me  do both and float back and forth.

If alt is hot do 60-40 alt

If btc is hot do 40-60 btc

BTW  since your new gear allows for software clocking (like gpus)  it is easy to shift  the power to btc or to alt.

I am looking forward to you gear as  managing the BTC to Alt power ratio will be much easier to do.

Not knocking anyone that wants all alt or all btc   , but I want both.

The problem is there really is little reason to shift back and forth. BTC is just not worth it on so many levels right now.

The gear is overpriced, bad warranty, loud, ROI is almost a year, and if you got limited power a 280x performs better than a S9. I threw my S2 literally in the dump about 1.5 year after it was introduced and cost $4000 brand new. You won't be doing that with any new GPUs.

Until ZEC crashes and ETH goes POS, many won't look twice at an Antminer. The only advantage that BTC asics has is that its more user friendly and stable for the less experienced.

legendary
Activity: 4326
Merit: 8950
'The right to privacy matters'
Just yet another reason why we all switched to mainly GPU mining

Speak for yourself, dude. And probably in the Altcoin mining section.

Ah be like me  do both and float back and forth.

If alt is hot do 60-40 alt

If btc is hot do 40-60 btc

BTW  since your new gear allows for software clocking (like gpus)  it is easy to shift  the power to btc or to alt.

I am looking forward to you gear as  managing the BTC to Alt power ratio will be much easier to do.

Not knocking anyone that wants all alt or all btc   , but I want both.
legendary
Activity: 3416
Merit: 1865
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Just yet another reason why we all switched to mainly GPU mining

Speak for yourself, dude. And probably in the Altcoin mining section.
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1130
Bitcoin FTW!
Wow! The topic still continues..... I thought it was 2014-15 again.  Still have 1 which I just stole the fans and grills to encase my gpu miner/heater.

Yeah the PSU+Fans and that Ethernet extender plug are all used in my GPUs now.

Really crazy those cost $4000 when new. Talk about depreciation.
Just yet another reason why we all switched to mainly GPU mining. Smiley They don't depreciate nearly as fast as ASICs, and remain useful after they stop making you anything. They were the best miners at the time, and back then people saw the successes of the people who bought the S1, so naturally the S2 sales were huge.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
Wow! The topic still continues..... I thought it was 2014-15 again.  Still have 1 which I just stole the fans and grills to encase my gpu miner/heater.

Yeah the PSU+Fans and that Ethernet extender plug are all used in my GPUs now.

Really crazy those cost $4000 when new. Talk about depreciation.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
Wow! The topic still continues..... I thought it was 2014-15 again.  Still have 1 which I just stole the fans and grills to encase my gpu miner/heater.
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1076
A humble Siberian miner
Better to make it solo mining.  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1168
Merit: 1009
I agree the S2 was dead long ago but I saved them because they were rather quiet and if I ever come across a place with free electric I figured I could always run them and make a few extra pennies a week  Shocked
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1130
Bitcoin FTW!
I saw on another thread someone is trying to create new hash boards for and S5 Using newer chips, i always wished that would happen to the S2 I hung on to 2 of these oldies for hope that some day it would happen
It's better to scrap the psu and sell blades at this point, there's likely going to be no further upgrade path to these new miners in the future, and the PSU can be worth quite a bit in good condition. We have hope, but it seems for now the classic miner design is more popular than the rack.
legendary
Activity: 1168
Merit: 1009
I saw on another thread someone is trying to create new hash boards for and S5 Using newer chips, i always wished that would happen to the S2 I hung on to 2 of these oldies for hope that some day it would happen
sr. member
Activity: 478
Merit: 250
I actually picked up a couple used ones when they announced this lie... bitmain hasn't got a satoshi from me since.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 1723
I threw my S2 in the trash, was taking up way too much room.

Still have the PSU and fans however.
legendary
Activity: 2030
Merit: 1076
A humble Siberian miner
Bitmain, how about your promises to your customers now?  Cool
hero member
Activity: 742
Merit: 500
The s2! the good old times Cheesy
Put one on top of other until it's starting to tilt as Pisa tower Roll Eyes
legendary
Activity: 2746
Merit: 1181
My LCD display blew out, and received a brand new one  a looong time ago, still in the box with ribbon cable if anyone is interested in buying it.

Ill try to get a pic of it up tomorrow.

thanks!
hero member
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1009
The batch 4's were ok; before that if you got an intact S2 it must have been a miracle.

Yes Bitmain lied to us about the kits, and didn't even apologize.

It's been over a year.

I think it would make more sense for Bitmain to make a 6U enclosure for 3x S7 plus powersupplies, but I don't see that happening. 

I received many S2s in pristine condition.  The trick is to purchase after the initial batch.

I ordered batches 2, 3 and 4; 8x total S2's. 

They didn't even begin to address the problem until the last of the batch 3 (first with the metal guides, which were slightly improved and more effective with the batch 4's).

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