Bloody hell.... I can't keep up with this thread!!
Miss one day is like missing a year, yikes! Anyways...
That's the downside with a pre-order market, scams are so easy and innocent.
You should capture the PayPal email you sent cash to and google it to see if there were previous complaints.
Contact the seller itself, PP will think you're a joker looking for a freeride if you don't even do that.
All you need to tell PayPal is that this seller is impersonating the Manufacturer's website, aren't an authorized reseller and you want your money back so you can buy from the manufacturer.
You can also, and SHOULD ALWAYS google a domain name (websitename.com) + words like "scam" or "complaints" and you can usually find some real experiences.
Watch for fake reviews too, they just look WAY too generic.
Start by contacting the seller, wait 72 hours for a reply.
Take your money back REGARDLESS don't take credit, altCoin, money order, nothing else but a refund.
hey thanks for the long reply, I contacted the seller and received this response :
We are not a scam. Your order is scheduled to be shipped out on July 30 as indicated on our website. We do not send out any other confirmation emails besides the Paypal confirmation. The phone number we have listed is also used for our other business which is why you heard a different company name after hours. You can call between 9am-5pm PST and speak to a live person at that number. We do operate several different websites selling different brands of mining hardware. That only serves to show that we are a real business. In any case, we will refund your order if you wish but please note that will mean your order will be removed from the July 30 batch. We are almost sold out of that batch (we estimate by tomorrow) so once removed, you may get a a later ship date if you reorder later. Please confirm if you wish to keep your order or get a refund and we will honor your request either way.
so not really sure what to make of that. I messaged them back asking how do they explain the fact they are saying that batch 4 will be shippin out 30/7. This couyld be just delaying tactic so they can collect as many orders and then simply shut down and disappear.
They offered refund so unless they can provide me with a logical reply, I will ask for a refund. It all still stinks though.
btw I did google the domain name with "scam" but nothing came up, same goes for the other website they had setup. I also did a trace on the domains which seemed to be setup early this year and all looked legit. The wierd thing is that there is not much mention of these guys on forums which I would have expected to have at LEAST ONE user say they ordered from them and received all goods ok.
Anyways, will see what happens over next few hours.