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sr. member
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October 03, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
#33
I have a couple s1s that have "problems" might be worth upgrading those ones...

A wise decision would be to donate them to charity. The upgrade price vs endurance is not worth the while.

You can donate to any charity to pay me back.
sr. member
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August 22, 2014, 06:22:45 PM
#32
I have a couple s1s that have "problems" might be worth upgrading those ones...
sr. member
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August 22, 2014, 06:19:51 PM
#31
The upgrade kit is only good if it can deliver immediately or soon. 1 month is really too long. Better to just buy S3..

S3 is now overpriced because of the 1 month delay. Better to buy some S1s secondhand from somebody who has expensive power rates and undervolt them (of course this is for people with cheap power as nobody can run them profitably at stock in about 4 days).

its been over 4 days, my s1 and normal 180ghash is still making money.

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August 22, 2014, 05:36:07 PM
#30
I found a friend who doesn't pay for his power to host my S1  Grin

I don't know if the upgrade kit is worth it, being only marginally cheaper than the full deal.
Depends on how many you'd need I guess is the question.  When talking about 1, 2, heck even 5 it's not much, but in a case like ours it was a $3k difference by buying the upgrade kits as opposed to the full units.  And, we get the benefit of having the S1's continuing to hash until they're delivered.
sr. member
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August 22, 2014, 09:58:17 AM
#29
I found a friend who doesn't pay for his power to host my S1  Grin

I don't know if the upgrade kit is worth it, being only marginally cheaper than the full deal.
alh
legendary
Activity: 1843
Merit: 1050
August 22, 2014, 01:57:21 AM
#28
I don't expect hat it's trivial to use the old S1 boards, but they still have value. Poke around here, and see what folks try, after all once you have new S3 boards hashing, what's the downside to experimenting with the leftover S1 boards. You cold also sell the S1 boards, they still have value to somebody. Don't just discard them in the trash, they still have value, even if not toyou.
sr. member
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August 20, 2014, 11:29:46 PM
#27
Can the old boards be utilized as well?
i don't think so ,
legendary
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August 20, 2014, 01:19:54 PM
#26
Sad is that bitmain become another pre-order company. 20/9 is still far. For me pass. In the past i ordered 20 s1 with sushi and bitmain. Now this game seems good for big players with big balls. Asics are so overpriced.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1000
August 20, 2014, 01:13:01 PM
#25
I sold off my S1's but kept two that I didn't feel comfortable selling (x's).  I was looking forward to the upgrade kit but now that it has been announced there is no chance I will be buying it.
Too far away.
Too much BTC.

My S1's are hashing away at ~185Ghs.  Why on earth would I want to buy 220Ghs for $230 at a time when the difficulty will probably be somewhere around 32b and could be as high as 38b?

There is zero chance of making back that money.

Sorry Bitmain...gotta pass on that one.
DrG
legendary
Activity: 2086
Merit: 1035
August 20, 2014, 02:39:51 AM
#24
S1 are still available 255$ with 20% off right now, not really a deal but you can order it if you want one and upgrade for cheap later

http://farming-money.com/new-arrival-bitcoin-mining-hardware-antminer-180ghs-more-fast-sale-than-avalon-asic-miner-mining-machine/

S1s were getting about $120 or less last week.  Now with the difficulty increase they should be sub $100 easily.
hero member
Activity: 502
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August 19, 2014, 11:45:33 PM
#23
The S1 upgrade kit to S3 is not worth it, its like throwing away S1 and buying a new S3... unless its dirt cheap and can ship now..
sr. member
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August 19, 2014, 10:55:55 PM
#22
S1 are still available 255$ with 20% off right now, not really a deal but you can order it if you want one and upgrade for cheap later

http://farming-money.com/new-arrival-bitcoin-mining-hardware-antminer-180ghs-more-fast-sale-than-avalon-asic-miner-mining-machine/





you can buy an S3 for that price (at least when btc was at 450$ in the last 24 hours)
DrG
legendary
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August 19, 2014, 07:19:56 PM
#21
Can the old boards be utilized as well?

The old boards are the part that is being replaced because they are inefficient.  You can undervolt them to get a little more life out of them and that's why the upgrade kit is considered a bad idea.

I was just asking since I have 4 S1's and wondered if I could repurpose them.  I'm really not worried about the cost of power... Solar on the house.

If power is irrelevant then just continue to keep mining with the S1.  The only reason to drop the S1 then would be the noise issue.
sr. member
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August 19, 2014, 06:29:41 PM
#20
Can the old boards be utilized as well?

The old boards are the part that is being replaced because they are inefficient.  You can undervolt them to get a little more life out of them and that's why the upgrade kit is considered a bad idea.

I was just asking since I have 4 S1's and wondered if I could repurpose them.  I'm really not worried about the cost of power... Solar on the house.
DrG
legendary
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August 19, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
#19
Can the old boards be utilized as well?

The old boards are the part that is being replaced because they are inefficient.  You can undervolt them to get a little more life out of them and that's why the upgrade kit is considered a bad idea.
sr. member
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August 19, 2014, 05:52:12 PM
#18
Can the old boards be utilized as well?
DrG
legendary
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August 19, 2014, 05:51:19 PM
#17
It was almost never profitable to mine bitcoins when compared to electricity costs.
When we were mining with CPU, the electricity bill was 100x more expensive that the coins we won.

Same when the GPU mining started, 100x more expensive.
Of course afterwards when the bitcoin price rose many many times, it was profitable Smiley

Same as now, it you calculate your mining costs with a bitcoin price of 500, you're not going to have a positive ROI.
But if you hope for bitcoin price of 3, 5 or 15 thousand, the numbers look really different.

As for the kits, no i'm undervolting (10k pot mod) my S1's to add to their lifespan.
If you can get defective S1's for free, that would be a good option.

First of all that is outright false.  If you were CPU mining with electricity 100x the profit, maybe you should have upgraded that 486-DX2  Cheesy.  Same with GPU mining.  Unless you were paying on the order of $30 per KWH (and this is coming from somebody paying $0.35/KWH at home).

If electricity costs more than you earn, IT ALWAYS MAKES MORE SENSE TO BUY the coin outright.  ALWAYS.  The only reason to mine at that point is to support the network or get newly minted coins by solo mining.
member
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August 19, 2014, 05:27:31 PM
#16
It was almost never profitable to mine bitcoins when compared to electricity costs.
When we were mining with CPU, the electricity bill was 100x more expensive that the coins we won.
Same when the GPU mining started, 100x more expensive.
Of course afterwards when the bitcoin price rose many many times, it was profitable Smiley

Same as now, it you calculate your mining costs with a bitcoin price of 500, you're not going to have a positive ROI.
But if you hope for bitcoin price of 3, 5 or 15 thousand, the numbers look really different.

As for the kits, no i'm undervolting (10k pot mod) my S1's to add to their lifespan.
If you can get defective S1's for free, that would be a good option.
hero member
Activity: 873
Merit: 1007
August 16, 2014, 03:49:51 PM
#15
Keep your old S1 as is, when upgraded, when can't mine anymore with your S1.
They recycle the heat sink.

X-Hash dropped price on gridseed products this morning.
You can order 1TH / 1200W for 1000$

http://www.x-hash.com/go?url=EX4RZF8pUnAXKlUoRDgUaQpwAyMHKkk2BC8Te0V2DCsFahY5UzJCf08lBXgAIw93FHYEfEEjFiBcJgc0QiAAYg%3D%3D

Little less efficient in power but damn good deal.

I bought 2x hosted S3 for 1000$ yesterday, only get 840GH for my buck.
http://gawminers.go2cloud.org/SH38

New from today : Hashlet cloud miner
Have a look before spending money

http://gawminers.go2cloud.org/SH38


That's a decent price for the GH/s/$ but the power usage is double that of an S3.  That means it will make money up front for the first 3 -4 months and then have an early retirement compared to something that is a lot more efficient.  Bitfury gear is still able to run due to it's great efficiency.

Unless you have really cheap power always go for higher efficiency, especially when it's double as in this case.
hero member
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August 16, 2014, 03:19:55 AM
#14
The upgrade kit is only good if it can deliver immediately or soon. 1 month is really too long. Better to just buy S3..

S3 is now overpriced because of the 1 month delay. Better to buy some S1s secondhand from somebody who has expensive power rates and undervolt them (of course this is for people with cheap power as nobody can run them profitably at stock in about 4 days).
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