Exactly!
@toni_maroni
There is no timeframe. Maybe you are referring to their:
"Shipping may start between Oct. 15 ~ 25 (if shipped out 10 days later than it, it won't be considered as delay)"
I knew that the first batch was overpriced and I waited a little more. It is quite normal that prices are going down with their next batches. I'm sure Bitmain will ship out (and that doesn't mean delivered) your miner within the next week and before batch 2+3 is shipped out (that will be in November).
PS: The warranty-thing is referring to murdito and is also discussed in another thread. I know what scam is (they dont deliver for months and mostly never will) and I dont think / want to mention Bitmain with real scammers. Because they deliver the gear and are quite honest with their products.
For example the S7 batch 2 is still within their +/- 5% range and is still a bit cheaper -> that is fair play to me.
Topic: ANTMINER S7 "availability" at bitmaintech.com (Batch 1 Pre-Order Opinions) - page 2. (Read 3151 times)
October 11, 2015, 12:37:36 PM
October 11, 2015, 12:30:34 PM
Everyone assumed they would be fair.
and thats the pointthere is only a hand of companys in bitcoin-business that had a little rest of trust,
and i thought bitmaintech is one of them.
but what i see here is the same strategy that all the other shit companys have, eat or die
i lost a lot of money in the one and other bitcoin-company and thought bitmaintech is a safe deal,
and so the disappointment for this compensation is big
And the key word there is assumed. It was a assumption it would be fair, not a promise or a contract. All they promised was after X date it is considered late.
They left it wide open to make it up to them. I understand that it sucks, and really can see compensation is really low. But when you talk about say refund's they did not do anything that they have to give refunds, or even great compensation as they made up the selling rules.
So it is not nice but boils down to a business decision over customer happiness. Will all these thread's change their mind? I doubt it but you never know.
October 11, 2015, 12:21:12 PM
Everyone assumed they would be fair.
and thats the pointthere is only a hand of companys in bitcoin-business that had a little rest of trust,
and i thought bitmaintech is one of them.
but what i see here is the same strategy that all the other shit companys have, eat or die
i lost a lot of money in the one and other bitcoin-company and thought bitmaintech is a safe deal,
and so the disappointment for this compensation is big
October 11, 2015, 12:02:29 PM
- There are no refunds, all sales are final
ok maybe, but i do a sale to a fixed time frame, they not handle the sale in this timeframe, there is no final sale, there is no valid contract- The procedure of the warranty is quite clear
this is no warranty inquiry, this has nothing todo with a valid warranty if there is no valid saleThey did warn if it was X day's past it would be considered late. They did not have any TOS that offered refund if late. Everyone assumed they would be fair and do something like a coupon for a decent amount. But they did not do this they surprised everyone.
Since they don't a TOS on being late they don't really break any contract. Did they lose peoples trust? Possibly. But makes sales not valid, no as they don't have any TOS even close to that.
October 11, 2015, 11:51:41 AM
- There are no refunds, all sales are final
ok maybe, but i do a sale to a fixed time frame, they not handle the sale in this timeframe, there is no final sale, there is no valid contract- The procedure of the warranty is quite clear
this is no warranty inquiry, this has nothing todo with a valid warranty if there is no valid sale October 11, 2015, 10:45:04 AM
I can feel with you guys and I understand it very well. But please come down to earth again. It is quite ridiculous, why in hell should Bitmain ("must" like murdito said) return the full money before they are allowed to repair it?
- There are no refunds, all sales are final
- The procedure of the warranty is quite clear
Haven't you read anything before buying it? Do you get a full payback of USD 60'000 from your cardealer when your car needs a service?
Come on... don't make this another cry thread.
- There are no refunds, all sales are final
- The procedure of the warranty is quite clear
Haven't you read anything before buying it? Do you get a full payback of USD 60'000 from your cardealer when your car needs a service?
Come on... don't make this another cry thread.
October 11, 2015, 05:28:00 AM
Correct is they made us batch 3 price or return full money for delay. The problem is of company not for us, they promise shipping before day 11 and today said us make us a hasheesh contract but we don't want hasheesh contract.
If they want repair the problem first must return us full money or make us a bonus of difference price of batch 3 and batch 1.
For me is a scam buy 1 month ago and no send in time and new batch is more cheaper than my batch. I think i will denounce to police if they not return me full money or return me difference between batch 1 and batch 3.
What do you think??
If they want repair the problem first must return us full money or make us a bonus of difference price of batch 3 and batch 1.
For me is a scam buy 1 month ago and no send in time and new batch is more cheaper than my batch. I think i will denounce to police if they not return me full money or return me difference between batch 1 and batch 3.
What do you think??
October 11, 2015, 04:37:46 AM
This is how I feel.
October 11, 2015, 04:06:44 AM
I have 1 s7 from 23 of september but it isnt work good.
It makes 4.45th. I ve paid a lot of btc include tax almost 10 btc and receive problem masnine.
I ve told them to declare less but they didnt do it.
So, 1823$÷4860=0.375 per gh.
Mine 4450×0.375=1668$
1823-1668=155$ and from the tax. About 200$.
So I want 200$ refund for this mashine.
I had 1 order more. I received from dhl that wait shipment. For me it delay .
So i ve want some refund and for second order from B1.
I hope they will be corect
It makes 4.45th. I ve paid a lot of btc include tax almost 10 btc and receive problem masnine.
I ve told them to declare less but they didnt do it.
So, 1823$÷4860=0.375 per gh.
Mine 4450×0.375=1668$
1823-1668=155$ and from the tax. About 200$.
So I want 200$ refund for this mashine.
I had 1 order more. I received from dhl that wait shipment. For me it delay .
So i ve want some refund and for second order from B1.
I hope they will be corect
October 11, 2015, 01:14:54 AM
With the horrible "compensation" while they fix their pressings with using our gear to test, should they offer something besides their abysmal offerings at this point? Will they offer refunds or an acceptable compensation between B1 and the other batches since we know the B1 pressing is what prompted them to create B2/3?
Ufo
Ufo
October 11, 2015, 01:09:35 AM
For some reason I can no longer quote or edit my posts, so I thought a thread no tied to BM would be useful since I will self-moderate it.
Should they offer refunds, difference between the pre-order B1 runs and B2/3 or some other appeasement? The current offer is after their "delay" window they will offer compensation that is laughable at best.
What would you like to see from BM?
Ufo
Should they offer refunds, difference between the pre-order B1 runs and B2/3 or some other appeasement? The current offer is after their "delay" window they will offer compensation that is laughable at best.
What would you like to see from BM?
Ufo
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