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newbie
Activity: 168
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September 04, 2018, 12:47:59 PM
If we crack open the firmware, can we adjust the individual board frequency ??

If you have a Batch one mini that is over clocked, set this to the freq you want the new one set to, save config file, then upload that config file into the batch 2 mini.

tinkering with Firmware is WOW! spookily freakingly scary!
I have a batch 1 Z9 Mini Il give it a wizz
report back
jr. member
Activity: 81
Merit: 2
September 04, 2018, 12:39:11 PM
Just got my batch 2 Mini yesterday.  Ran it at 650 Mhz all night and had no HW errors and minimal pool rejects (using nanopool).  Getting around 14.8Ksol/s.  What's odd is I changed the cgminer.conf to set the speed to something higher but anything higher than 650 just gives me a really low hash rate, around 4.5Ksol/s, even 655 Mhz.  No HW errors, just slow hashing.  Anyone else experience this?


I noticed the Z9 mini seems to hash slowly unless you select speeds in specific increments. (usually 6 mhz) the only reason I know this is because after I experienced the same thing as you on my manually adjusted batch 2 mini, I looked at the OC options on my batch 1 mini and it looks like they usually let you select in increments of 6 or 7 mhz. I don't really know why but I'm guessing it's a memory timing thing. Try adjusting with the following exact increments until you get stability. 700, 693, 687, 681, 675, 668, 662, 650, etc.

Is that starting at 700 and going downwards or starting at 600 and going up? or does not make a difference?
It doesn't matter technically. but I would Just start from the highest and as soon as 1 hashboard crashes restart and drop it to the next highest and repeat so you can quickly find the maximum stable. It may take 12-24 hours until it faults out so don't assume it's stable after just a few minutes.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 12:34:32 PM
Just got my batch 2 Mini yesterday.  Ran it at 650 Mhz all night and had no HW errors and minimal pool rejects (using nanopool).  Getting around 14.8Ksol/s.  What's odd is I changed the cgminer.conf to set the speed to something higher but anything higher than 650 just gives me a really low hash rate, around 4.5Ksol/s, even 655 Mhz.  No HW errors, just slow hashing.  Anyone else experience this?


I noticed the Z9 mini seems to hash slowly unless you select speeds in specific increments. (usually 6 mhz) the only reason I know this is because after I experienced the same thing as you on my manually adjusted batch 2 mini, I looked at the OC options on my batch 1 mini and it looks like they usually let you select in increments of 6 or 7 mhz. I don't really know why but I'm guessing it's a memory timing thing. Try adjusting with the following exact increments until you get stability. 700, 693, 687, 681, 675, 668, 662, 650, etc.

Is that starting at 700 and going downwards or starting at 600 and going up? or does not make a difference?
jr. member
Activity: 81
Merit: 2
September 04, 2018, 12:32:17 PM
Just got my batch 2 Mini yesterday.  Ran it at 650 Mhz all night and had no HW errors and minimal pool rejects (using nanopool).  Getting around 14.8Ksol/s.  What's odd is I changed the cgminer.conf to set the speed to something higher but anything higher than 650 just gives me a really low hash rate, around 4.5Ksol/s, even 655 Mhz.  No HW errors, just slow hashing.  Anyone else experience this?


I noticed the Z9 mini seems to hash slowly unless you select speeds in specific increments. (usually 6 mhz) the only reason I know this is because after I experienced the same thing as you on my manually adjusted batch 2 mini, I looked at the OC options on my batch 1 mini and it looks like they usually let you select in increments of 6 or 7 mhz. I don't really know why but I'm guessing it's a memory timing thing. Try adjusting with the following exact increments until you get stability. 700, 693, 687, 681, 675, 668, 662, 650, etc.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 12:15:35 PM
If we crack open the firmware, can we adjust the individual board frequency ??

If you have a Batch one mini that is over clocked, set this to the freq you want the new one set to, save config file, then upload that config file into the batch 2 mini.

tinkering with Firmware is WOW! spookily freakingly scary!
newbie
Activity: 168
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 11:33:56 AM
If we crack open the firmware, can we adjust the individual board frequency ??
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 11:16:54 AM
Yes that is on par for a Mini.

I was for a time Hugely Jealous of your 46K shares per day? Maybe it is my pool that is not reporting right Smiley end of the day as long as we are earning who cares about the numbers Wink
jr. member
Activity: 69
Merit: 1
September 04, 2018, 11:00:31 AM
Maybe something is goofy with the antminer reporting then, I am earning about 0.12 ZEC/day.

Edit: just checked my stats at Nanopool and they think I have 15k-16k shares/hour so I don't know WTF is going on...  Earnings seem on par with most people though.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 10:53:55 AM
It’s just a mini, but Maybe it’s because I’m using nano pool, they just added support for the Z9 so maybe there’s less people over there. Not sure, but you may want to try them out. I have use them for ETH and XMR for quite a while and been very happy with them.

Even so, a different pool surely would not give you that much of a difference, that's like 7 times the shares i am getting?? Just WOW! How much you earning a day? (USD)
jr. member
Activity: 69
Merit: 1
September 04, 2018, 10:48:25 AM
It’s just a mini, but Maybe it’s because I’m using nano pool, they just added support for the Z9 so maybe there’s less people over there. Not sure, but you may want to try them out. I have use them for ETH and XMR for quite a while and been very happy with them.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 10:30:41 AM
Running at 650 MHz, over the past 23 hours, 46,505 accepted shares, 54 rejected (0.116%) over on Nanopool.

Rejects can have lots of variables, I used to get lots of rejects on my Vegas when I ran XMR-Stak, but after switching to SRBMiner I get almost none.  Same thing goes for pools.  When I mine ETH on my 1070 rig at nicehash I get lots of rejects, none at Nanopool.


WOW! am i doing something wrong? you get 46K shares in 23 hours? are you on a Big boy Z9 or is my Mini really really underperforming?
jr. member
Activity: 69
Merit: 1
September 04, 2018, 10:17:20 AM
Running at 650 MHz, over the past 23 hours, 46,505 accepted shares, 54 rejected (0.116%) over on Nanopool.

Rejects can have lots of variables, I used to get lots of rejects on my Vegas when I ran XMR-Stak, but after switching to SRBMiner I get almost none.  Same thing goes for pools.  When I mine ETH on my 1070 rig at nicehash I get lots of rejects, none at Nanopool.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 09:56:47 AM
Thanks Guys....

Hours run since last reboot (Change Pool) is 21 hrs, Accepted 7685, rejected 30, so i make that around .39%, so guessing that is good/ok!

I am used to GPU mining with lower hashing rates, and i avoid any rejected shares.

Thanks again for Noob help ;-)
newbie
Activity: 168
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 09:51:41 AM
Just unpacked another Z9 Mini. Overclocked it to 650.. and board 2 has a chip that blows out (00x0) rebooted it and 2 mins in same again....
Just droped the freq to 500 runs fine.. popped it up to 625 and still fine for now..... board 2 is very lazy 3.61

I am reading other sources that report exactly the same as you, and this is putting me off getting another 2 or 3 of these. I think i will go for the Z9 big boy one next.

May i ask on your other mini's do you get any 'Rejected' shares? As a newb to Asic mining, i am used to GPU mining, and avoid these rejected shares, by dropping the offending card(s) a tad in the overclocking specs.

Not sure in ASIC mining if these are the norm as the hash rate is huge compared to GPU's, or should i throttle down a bit?
just a few rejected not many like 3 or 4 an hour
member
Activity: 350
Merit: 13
September 04, 2018, 09:46:51 AM
Can anyone advise please? or comment?

I have a batch 2 Z9 Mini overclocked to 650, so not pushing to much, getting all three cards hashing and an average 14.5. No HW Errors....

However, i get approx 30 rejected shares in say, a 24 hour period?

Is this good/bad? Is this to be expected if overclocking? Should i reduce overclock?

Thanks Guys

Whats your ratio of accepted/rejected?
I consider anything below 5% as good.
Rejected shares can be caused by internet latency or pool side issue, not solely because of OC.

One of my Z9 mini OC to 700 has been running for 4 days.
Accepted/Rejected are 56564/55 which translates to less than 0.1%.
   
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 09:45:51 AM
Just unpacked another Z9 Mini. Overclocked it to 650.. and board 2 has a chip that blows out (00x0) rebooted it and 2 mins in same again....
Just droped the freq to 500 runs fine.. popped it up to 625 and still fine for now..... board 2 is very lazy 3.61

I am reading other sources that report exactly the same as you, and this is putting me off getting another 2 or 3 of these. I think i will go for the Z9 big boy one next.

May i ask on your other mini's do you get any 'Rejected' shares? As a newb to Asic mining, i am used to GPU mining, and avoid these rejected shares, by dropping the offending card(s) a tad in the overclocking specs.

Not sure in ASIC mining if these are the norm as the hash rate is huge compared to GPU's, or should i throttle down a bit?
newbie
Activity: 168
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 09:40:53 AM
Just unpacked another Z9 Mini. Overclocked it to 650.. and board 2 has a chip that blows out (00x0) rebooted it and 2 mins in same again....
Just droped the freq to 500 runs fine.. popped it up to 625 and still fine for now..... board 2 is very lazy 3.61

Update just blown out again 00x0 at 625
reduced to 600
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
September 04, 2018, 07:30:00 AM
Can anyone advise please? or comment?

I have a batch 2 Z9 Mini overclocked to 650, so not pushing to much, getting all three cards hashing and an average 14.5. No HW Errors....

However, i get approx 30 rejected shares in say, a 24 hour period?

Is this good/bad? Is this to be expected if overclocking? Should i reduce overclock?

Thanks Guys
member
Activity: 68
Merit: 18
September 04, 2018, 02:15:11 AM
I agree with your views on MPH.. On Prohashing do you just put the one algo in and Prohashing converts all mined coins to BTC and deposits BTC.. Or do we need each and individual wallets?... Cant see much about algo for ASIC.. thanks

Prohashing currently has 7 supported algorithms. I connect all my miners there. My S9's on SHA256, L3+'s on Scrypt, Z9's on Equihash and rigs on Ethash, Neoscrypt and Lyra2REv2.

Reason I have everything connected there is because they have a nifty feature where you can put in your electricity cost and watt consumption into the password field for the miners and they will automatically generate a graph showing your consumption and profit per day. This is very important for me cuz I can see at a glance that I'm not mining at a loss overall on any given day. (I purposely mine scrypt though it's at a loss right now - I make up for the loss using my equihash Z9 hashrate).

Another cool feature they have is payout. They have about 50 coins and you can choose payouts in any ratio you like. All you need to do is specify a payout address for each coin you want a payout in - and it'll be done. It doesn't matter what algorithm you mine - you'll receive payout as you like. See a sample screenshot below (Note that this is a free imgur account so bandwidth may be limited. If you don't see the image, that's probably why).



They merge mine each algorithm and are good with profits. Despite their 5% fee they occasionally manage to beat other pools in profitability.

BUT.... IMPORTANT NOTE: This is a small operation run by two extremely hard working brothers in the U.S. So:
  • They don't have redundancy and failsafe's like other large pools do. Their servers crash once every often - so you MUST HAVE fallback pools configured. If you do, then it's not much of an issue since failures are never more than 15-20 mins on average, about once a week.
  • They insist on your identification if your income exceeds $600 to comply with U.S. laws. I wasn't about to do that and just mined with them to try it for a bit but found them so (potentially) good that submitted my details and continued mining with them.

If they clean up their server reliability issues, they'll easily be one of the best pools out there.

newbie
Activity: 168
Merit: 0
September 03, 2018, 01:42:53 PM
I mine Zhash.pro (zcash.zhash.pro) with my z9mini.
The pool is new so they start a prom. 0%fee right now
So I try to mine with it.

0%reject and lots of help in discord channel
I like it... i will give it a go... How often does it pay out?
thanks
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