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Topic: Any clue why whales are pumping shit coins at DEX? - page 5. (Read 1087 times)

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This thing is ocassionally happen at crypto investment and even you can see it at centralized exchange such as binance. Have you know when bittoren was launching? Its price was experiencing increased a lot, I hope you know it.

May I guessed? You made this thread just because you see there is a coin who has been increasing for almost 1500%, isn't it? If I suggesting you must be familiar with this thing. Even, you can see it everyday at coinmarketcap, there is a feature namely the bigger and loser coin.

I don't have any idea to comment what whales did to this market. Clearly, without them the market cryptocurrency just will like another place of investment such as forex and etc.
legendary
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Standard pump and dump I think. Small volume coins are easy for whales or P+D groups to manipulate. As always it relies on luring in FOMO victims. Unless you are very confident in what you are doing, I would advise to stay away from the low cap stuff.
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As you know , if you are trading at Dex you could easily see x100 pumps . After that pump, price down to usual point. So what is that meaning?  If any whale wants to collect the tokens, there are many better ways to collect them more cheaper. Any clue ? is that money laundring?

It is an exit pump. First they must ascertain how shallow the sell orders are. If it is cheap enough, they would buy to pump price and then sell back to the newer and hopefully deeper buy orders. If the sell side is not shallow, it is not profitable.
legendary
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Could you pls explain  mdab/bnb trading? here is the link ; https://www.binance.org/en/trade/MDAB-D42_BNB
2 days in a row, this is just an example there are many tokens like that at various exchanges.

this is not newbie buying, he is buying approx bought 30K $ in one pump minumum...how can we read it?

Well 30k$ is not worth to laundry. You can exchange that much in 1 Bitcoin ATM for cash without KYC fully anonymous.

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0.51 BNB

It means that daily volume is equal to 10$. In my opinion this particular pump is just arbitrage bots mistake or fat finger error/newbie mistake.

This pump volume was only ~100 000 MDAB


I don't know if this order made in trust wallet will pump price as long as i have funds in my wallet to buy 100 000 coins for me or it will buy xxx coins for 39 BNB but i'm sure that this order won't be fulfilled correctly because as we can see to buy 100 000 MDAB you need to pump coin x100.
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As you know , if you are trading at Dex you could easily see x100 pumps . After that pump, price down to usual point. So what is that meaning?  If any whale wants to collect the tokens, there are many better ways to collect them more cheaper. Any clue ? is that money laundring?
Exchanges like this are more prone to whale manipulations and its pretty normal with a small coins. Its not laundering its legal in cryptomarket and if you are a trade you can see that everyday. The pump and dump is the best way for a whales to make money, they are pumping a small coin and exit later on. Don’t fall on this trap better to have top coins than to a lower coins that can easily manipulated.
hero member
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That's price manipulation and with the low volume in DEX, it would be easy for a person to do that.
just understand how to play the game so you will end up profitable, actually I am not trading in DEX anymore after the bull run as the volume just keeps dropping.

Just bear in mind this simple analysis, if big exchange can be manipulated, how much more this small exchange.
legendary
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As you know , if you are trading at Dex you could easily see x100 pumps . After that pump, price down to usual point. So what is that meaning?  If any whale wants to collect the tokens, there are many better ways to collect them more cheaper. Any clue ? is that money laundring?

People buy and sell from themselves to make it look like the coins price is going up trying to fool someone into buying it, usually doesnt last long unless some poor sap buys in.  Dont buy into pumps and dont sell into dumps (unless there is an obvious reason) and you should be fine.  Manipulation runs these small volume coins.
hero member
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As you know , if you are trading at Dex you could easily see x100 pumps . After that pump, price down to usual point. So what is that meaning? 
That's the basic cycle and logic of trading. DEX isn't an exception because it also happens to the popular centralized exchanges so don't get it wrong and surprise why it happens. Dumping always happens in every altcoins.

If any whale wants to collect the tokens, there are many better ways to collect them more cheaper.
They collect for no reason but they are taking it cheaply and once it pumps, they'll sell it without a doubt and won't do a buyback.
sr. member
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As you know , if you are trading at Dex you could easily see x100 pumps . After that pump, price down to usual point. So what is that meaning?  If any whale wants to collect the tokens, there are many better ways to collect them more cheaper. Any clue ? is that money laundring?
It's not money laundering but it'a actually their strategy to easily manipulate the market, making profit from the weak hands that already bought that particular shitcoin at its high price. It's not difficult to understand since what they are doing isn't difficult specially if that shitcoin is only available in one exchange only.

Yes, not money laundering at all! If you are long enough to witness those pump and dump schemes, you will say that it is a regular dirty strategy of those group of people to amass a lot of profit for their own gain. They don't care other investors or small timers who are losing their hard-earned money for not seeing such price manipulation. This is the reason why, if you are an investor, you need to really look at the foundation of the project and not checking only the trading charts. You will understand what's happening if you will dig deeper about where it's coming from.
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As you know , if you are trading at Dex you could easily see x100 pumps . After that pump, price down to usual point. So what is that meaning?  If any whale wants to collect the tokens, there are many better ways to collect them more cheaper. Any clue ? is that money laundring?
It's not money laundering but it'a actually their strategy to easily manipulate the market, making profit from the weak hands that already bought that particular shitcoin at its high price. It's not difficult to understand since what they are doing isn't difficult specially if that shitcoin is only available in one exchange only.
legendary
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I think it's just because DEX have really small orderbooks, no market makers and the trade graphs are not regulated or intervened with in any way to look nice.
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Could you pls explain  mdab/bnb trading? here is the link ; https://www.binance.org/en/trade/MDAB-D42_BNB
2 days in a row, this is just an example there are many tokens like that at various exchanges.
what happens to dex, especially Binance dex is often triggered by the pumps of their own dev and the whales just welcome it. There is no specific reason for money laundering, but this is more valid because they have the power to do it, I call it the quick profit mode. The interest of traders in Binance dex is different from the others with a slightly better volume day by day.
Well, money laundering is definitely out of question because even if they do they have too much risk of losing the value due to the volatility. I think it's just a usual price manipulation maybe the devs are trying to keep their coin alive by pumping their own coin because most of the coin in dex have low volume anyway so you dont need so much money to pump and they are trying this hoping that people will start to buy and they can then dump their coin afterward. I also couldnt see how whales profitting from pumping this coin anyway.
legendary
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As you know , if you are trading at Dex you could easily see x100 pumps . After that pump, price down to usual point. So what is that meaning?  If any whale wants to collect the tokens, there are many better ways to collect them more cheaper. Any clue ? is that money laundring?

It depends on the coin. We can give a better explanation if you can show a specific coin recently who pumped at x100 on Dexes.

In general, the scheme has the purpose of manipulating volumes so that others will fall on the ride. It's not about there is a better way to collect more cheaper coins but pumping the coin also contributes to a form of advertisement and good marketing. If traders see that a certain coin, shit or not, do have an interesting volume that might be fit today or short trades, they will put that coin on their list. Only via pumping it is a good way to market it to create sounds compare to posting ads.
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the other explanation, other then a pump and dump scheme, can be an "insider trading".
Likewise, they are ready to issue a news and meanwhile they have taken some coins in DEX.
(DISCLAIMER= this is just an hint and not directly linked with this token )
As usual with this kind of scheme, when they do pump out a particular shit coin then announcing and spreading shills would be the next job.
They would find innocent and noob traders to buy out that peaked priced shitcoins that they had recently pumped.A typical P&D which isnt surprising nowadays.

Is this money laundering? No! General speaking it doesnt involve about this matter heck we can check out the volume of such pump and
we dont even know on where those funds came from so we cant really point some fingers on here.
legendary
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E.g.
the other explanation, other then a pump and dump scheme, can be an "insider trading".
Likewise, they are ready to issue a news and meanwhile they have taken some coins in DEX.
(DISCLAIMER= this is just an hint and not directly linked with this token )
jr. member
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most of times these are just "Pump and Dump" scheme.
Newbies see price growing and good volume, and they decide to invest in the coin... but they dont' know that some one is ready to dump all coins!
I don't think they pump a scam coin for money laundering..... I can't see any advantage for a trader
there are some scientific papers about this argument e.g: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3267041

this is not newbie buying, he is buying approx bought 30K $ in one pump minumum...how can we read it?

People that pump coins (so who bought 30K in one pump) he is not the newbie.
The newbies come after these big movement and then decide to invest.
If a pumper get coins from a range of 1 satoshi to 10 satoshi, he is able to dump coin with a great gaining until price touch 2 satoshi.

If you want @absurde you can send a MP with information regarding this coin/trade and I will take a look into....

sure, but you can see the trade link above https://www.binance.org/en/trade/MDAB-D42_BNB , 2 days in a row , this is not pump & dumb groups i am sure about it, i have been trading long time to realize it. 
legendary
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most of times these are just "Pump and Dump" scheme.
Newbies see price growing and good volume, and they decide to invest in the coin... but they dont' know that some one is ready to dump all coins!
I don't think they pump a scam coin for money laundering..... I can't see any advantage for a trader
there are some scientific papers about this argument e.g: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3267041

this is not newbie buying, he is buying approx bought 30K $ in one pump minumum...how can we read it?

People that pump coins (so who bought 30K in one pump) he is not the newbie.
The newbies come after these big movement and then decide to invest.
If a pumper get coins from a range of 1 satoshi to 10 satoshi, he is able to dump coin with a great gaining until price touch 2 satoshi.

If you want @absurde you can send a MP with information regarding this coin/trade and I will take a look into....
sr. member
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Actually there are too many ways to manipulate coins, especially on DEX or even in Binance Dex. But since we don't have any proof we can be predicting on it what is a possible scenario that happens. Perhaps, that was probably on the pump and dump group. Buying at large amounts at a time and then lure traders also to buy, but when the big whales hit the target they will sell all they had. O another thing is just a simply manipulating the price on the said exchange.
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Could you pls explain  mdab/bnb trading? here is the link ; https://www.binance.org/en/trade/MDAB-D42_BNB
2 days in a row, this is just an example there are many tokens like that at various exchanges.
what happens to dex, especially Binance dex is often triggered by the pumps of their own dev and the whales just welcome it. There is no specific reason for money laundering, but this is more valid because they have the power to do it, I call it the quick profit mode. The interest of traders in Binance dex is different from the others with a slightly better volume day by day.
hero member
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It's possible about the money laundering theory, but it's hard to proved it.

As you know , if you are trading at Dex you could easily see x100 pumps . After that pump, price down to usual point. So what is that meaning?  If any whale wants to collect the tokens, there are many better ways to collect them more cheaper. Any clue ? is that money laundring?

What we all know is that there are a lot of p&d signals groups around. And they mostly breed in DEX because they know that mostly beginners are trading on DEX. So together with whales and p&d, they are going to pump a certain coin of their choice to x100 and then sold and then take the profit, easy peasy.
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