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June 14, 2015, 01:51:04 AM
#87
You could try and invest at www.crypto-games.net . The site is almost a year old but they recently added the investment options. So you can try investing there. They even show their Bankroll and you share 90% of the profit and the rest 10%  of profit is invested in  developing and maintenance.

Alt coin investment is also an option you will find.  Smiley

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptogames-08-house-edge-on-dice-largest-wagering-contestever-750760
sr. member
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June 14, 2015, 01:38:43 AM
#86
waiting for a 11.5btc cash out from sawdice. if it comes through i think it is safe to say they are legit

ahh nice you can get 11.5btc on new dice Smiley
I see they are still new, I am not sure they will pay you.
but hopefully they pay for it Smiley
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June 13, 2015, 12:29:53 PM
#85
waiting for a 11.5btc cash out from sawdice. if it comes through i think it is safe to say they are legit
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June 13, 2015, 11:31:13 AM
#84
one of the dice site i love to play is betterbits.io
i think its has the fastest auto bet roll..
fairly , with admins tipping from time to time.
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June 13, 2015, 11:21:41 AM
#83
I am confused. You do not see that they obviously lied about having that bankroll? Or do you not see the problem with that lie?

I simply said that investment decisions are personal one, mine are diverse than yours and viceversa. Back to your questions, I worked with many businesses and a lot of them fear divulging their financial stats outside the company, even the most transparent one, also a common problem is also that many people in businesses fear backtracking from wrong statements, bad choices, etc because this could very often mean "losing their face", aka one's own sense of dignity or prestige in social contexts. To my understanding bitcointalk forum is a social context and, even if they may have realized their wrongs in not allowing a public display of cold storage addresses, they may fear losing their dignity and prestige into it thus preventing a public release of the cold storage addresses. IMO, I think the most sensible says is the dooglus one i quoted (below).
I don't want to comment on rest but the very first point: "it could be them withdrawing the same coins to their own wallet over and over again to make it look good" I think any one can now verify that using blockchain. One of the guys has already posted associated addresses with Da Dice wallet Smiley So this would just be speculation / allegation. Its not Da Dice's duty to proof anything, it duty of person who makes such allegations to prove it.

I'm not claiming they are doing anything wrong. I was simply saying that without proof of solvency it *is possible* that they are insolvent. I don't need to prove that they are insolvent, and they don't need to prove that they are solvent. It would just look better for them if they could prove it. It still obviously wouldn't stop them from being able to steal everyone's coins, but it would at least instil extra confidence in potential investors.
Let me be clear, at the moment, the problem I see was that such an issue may hamper Da Dice businesses growth prospect but IMO we still have to see real wrongdoings justifing -ve trust feedbacks. I hope not to be wrong or I may lose BTC.
TBH I think you didn't read much of the actual posts during the discussion.

"fear divulging their financial stats outside the company" They were the one to promise a public cold address and kept giving silly reasons why they couldn't provide it. It was obviously never about that "fear". Actually they are already very transparent about the "financial stats" by saying the bankroll and profit amounts - so they do not have that fear. Proof of solvency is simply proving they do in fact have that bankroll.

They did not have any reason not to provide proof of solvency other than the fact that they don't have the 500+ bitcoins.




I like to emphasize that this is the world of unregulated unlicensed anonymous bitcoin gambling sites. We had and have MANY MANY scams. My concerns about the cold wallet storage were not "trolling" like our expert fox says. If we, as a community, like "self regulation" so much, we should actively check the gambling sites ourselves. Is the provably fair implementation really good? Is this site solvent? Do they lie about anything? I think these things are really important. We should stand up against these scammers, even if they look like nice people or create a nice website. We should look beyond that and question every site's legitimacy. Unfortunately, others go for personal benefit and don't care so much as long as they can earn money on it (by signature campaigns or other ways) - although this may just be naivety for some.

My question for cold wallet address was very normal and ALL of their weak excuses are very concerning. To me, it is really obvious that they do not have the said bankroll. I -seriously- cannot imagine that anyone with an objective view and bitcoin gambling sites experience, actually still believes that they have a 500+ bankroll after reading the complete discussion.

In the end I do agree with you that everyone can put their money on any scam or non-scam site as they like. I personally think that the behavior of DaDice around the proof of solvency issue is very concerning and makes them untrustworthy which is why I left a warning feedback. If we would only add negative trusts for those sites who already scammed, we are not achieving much.






TBH I kinda feel not discussing with DaDice signature accounts (or newbie shills) anymore about it. No offense at all, but it kinda feels like I am just repeating myself 10 times and I am just talking to a wall - without any chance of the other party to seriously consider the things that I am saying. If you are the exemption I would be happy to reply again, but I do really hope you read the whole discussion first in case you didn't do it yet. Especially with shills like fox who has no idea at all about dice sites (counting activity by a "players online" stat, lmao) - it just really feels useless. My original reply was just to sandy47bt who said something about cold wallet storage Sawdice "problem" while DaDice clearly never showed their cold wallet. That is a fact and my goal was not to go into the same discussion again.
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June 13, 2015, 10:38:50 AM
#82
I am confused. You do not see that they obviously lied about having that bankroll? Or do you not see the problem with that lie?

I simply said that investment decisions are personal one, mine are diverse than yours and viceversa. Back to your questions, I worked with many businesses and a lot of them fear divulging their financial stats outside the company, even the most transparent one, also a common problem is also that many people in businesses fear backtracking from wrong statements, bad choices, etc because this could very often mean "losing their face", aka one's own sense of dignity or prestige in social contexts. To my understanding bitcointalk forum is a social context and, even if they may have realized their wrongs in not allowing a public display of cold storage addresses, they may fear losing their dignity and prestige into it thus preventing a public release of the cold storage addresses. IMO, I think the most sensible says is the dooglus one i quoted (below).
I don't want to comment on rest but the very first point: "it could be them withdrawing the same coins to their own wallet over and over again to make it look good" I think any one can now verify that using blockchain. One of the guys has already posted associated addresses with Da Dice wallet Smiley So this would just be speculation / allegation. Its not Da Dice's duty to proof anything, it duty of person who makes such allegations to prove it.

I'm not claiming they are doing anything wrong. I was simply saying that without proof of solvency it *is possible* that they are insolvent. I don't need to prove that they are insolvent, and they don't need to prove that they are solvent. It would just look better for them if they could prove it. It still obviously wouldn't stop them from being able to steal everyone's coins, but it would at least instil extra confidence in potential investors.
Let me be clear, at the moment, the problem I see was that such an issue may hamper Da Dice businesses growth prospect but IMO we still have to see real wrongdoings justifing -ve trust feedbacks. I hope not to be wrong or I may lose BTC.

actually i don't see many players left dadice, but it has double amount of players now. When those guys create the trolling storms in dadice OP, dadice had around 80-120 online players, since that storm dadice currently has 150-250 daily players, so it is not negative to the site, the the site gets free advertisements and more exposures to public, haha although dadice and dadice staff both have -16 negative feedback, the site is still strong and active.
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June 13, 2015, 10:26:57 AM
#81
I am confused. You do not see that they obviously lied about having that bankroll? Or do you not see the problem with that lie?

I simply said that investment decisions are personal one, mine are diverse than yours and viceversa. Back to your questions, I worked with many businesses and a lot of them fear divulging their financial stats outside the company, even the most transparent one, also a common problem is also that many people in businesses fear backtracking from wrong statements, bad choices, etc because this could very often mean "losing their face", aka one's own sense of dignity or prestige in social contexts. To my understanding bitcointalk forum is a social context and, even if they may have realized their wrongs in not allowing a public display of cold storage addresses, they may fear losing their dignity and prestige into it thus preventing a public release of the cold storage addresses. IMO, I think the most sensible says is the dooglus one i quoted (below).
I don't want to comment on rest but the very first point: "it could be them withdrawing the same coins to their own wallet over and over again to make it look good" I think any one can now verify that using blockchain. One of the guys has already posted associated addresses with Da Dice wallet Smiley So this would just be speculation / allegation. Its not Da Dice's duty to proof anything, it duty of person who makes such allegations to prove it.

I'm not claiming they are doing anything wrong. I was simply saying that without proof of solvency it *is possible* that they are insolvent. I don't need to prove that they are insolvent, and they don't need to prove that they are solvent. It would just look better for them if they could prove it. It still obviously wouldn't stop them from being able to steal everyone's coins, but it would at least instil extra confidence in potential investors.
Let me be clear, at the moment, the problem I see was that such an issue may hamper Da Dice businesses growth prospect but IMO we still have to see real wrongdoings justifing -ve trust feedbacks. I hope not to be wrong or I may lose BTC.
sr. member
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June 13, 2015, 09:49:00 AM
#80
I am confused. You do not see that they obviously lied about having that bankroll? Or do you not see the problem with that lie?
I really do not know about it. whether they utilize fund investor? certainly the big sites have bankroll?
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June 13, 2015, 09:48:56 AM
#79
I would recommend coinroyale, which has a neat bonus and dadice which has a nice faucet and many featurs.
But in the end it comes to your liking.
Just take your time and you will probably find many good gambling sites.
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June 13, 2015, 08:53:00 AM
#78
I am confused. You do not see that they obviously lied about having that bankroll? Or do you not see the problem with that lie?
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June 13, 2015, 08:36:19 AM
#77
They did not solve anything. There was absolutely no misunderstanding or overreaction about the situation.

DaDice claimed to show proof of solvency (simple public cold wallet) over their 540 coin bankroll on their play+invest site. When asked about it, they gave several bad excuses (that were proven to be wrong.) When there was no way out - they had to show proof of solvency - they decided to change their business model to "play only" to have a last excuse for not showing proof of solvency. This change proves furthermore they never had the claimed bankroll - since just showing a cold wallet to keep their reputation would have been faster/easier/better (if they had the coins.)

This behavior makes them very untrustworthy already and seriously makes it questionable if they even have enough bitcoins to pay their winning players out.

People playing there with faucets to earn some money, good luck. But I would definitely not deposit there.

They took out their investment feature so, in my understanding at least, this is a solution; however, an imperfect one that prevent perspective investors risk inadvertently losing their BTC albeit at cost of losing new fresh investors to their bankroll. Personally, I may recommend gambling money at a dice site like Da Dice however, since I trust no one with my BTC & fiat money, I'm not telling people to invest all their wealth into it. For the same reason, I'm used to split the risks of investments by diversifing like I once did while I put a few BTC into BikiniDice and Da Dice ones.

It's your money, it's up to you to decide!.
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June 13, 2015, 07:41:07 AM
#76
They did not solve anything. There was absolutely no misunderstanding or overreaction about the situation.

DaDice claimed to show proof of solvency (simple public cold wallet) over their 540 coin bankroll on their play+invest site. When asked about it, they gave several bad excuses (that were proven to be wrong.) When there was no way out - they had to show proof of solvency - they decided to change their business model to "play only" to have a last excuse for not showing proof of solvency. This change proves furthermore they never had the claimed bankroll - since just showing a cold wallet to keep their reputation would have been faster/easier/better (if they had the coins.)

This behavior makes them very untrustworthy already and seriously makes it questionable if they even have enough bitcoins to pay their winning players out.

People playing there with faucets to earn some money, good luck. But I would definitely not deposit there.
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June 13, 2015, 06:58:04 AM
#75
Anyone know of good Bitcoin dice sites, preferably new so i can invest?

I would recommend you to try https://dadice.com it's an amazing place to enjoy rolling dice as well as to try & win BTC money.
They're a provably fair dice site with a low 1% house edge, Jackpots and a live chat to talk to other online users (and sometime catch tips gifted by chat mods). Also, the site has a splendid design & looks really good.
Most important to me is their scalable faucet - you can level up the reedemable amount to 12500 satoshi (0.00012500BTC) - and the speed of Deposits & Cashouts. I'm really eager to withdraw BTC money as quickly as possible, once I win some in a lucky betting streak.  Wink

There are 3 new dice websites, they are DaDice, CrimeDice & SawDice
DaDice is growing very fast & has good design
Sawdice has unique design, but they still have problem about cold storage

While I agree dadice was one to be reckoned with a month or two ago, they handled their cold storage issues like spoiled little girls and threw a tantrum while closing of investments so they never had to show cold storage and  you say how sawdice has problems? Which have actually been sorted now so it is dadice with the storage issues. OP all new dice sites are a massive risk as you must know if I was to risk it I would go with sawdice but that is a long shot and would not count on massive gains lol

I became convinced all the drama about Da Dice cold storage issue was due because of misunderstandings and overreactions. Too many people were scammed in the past by unscrupulous dice sites; however, i don't think Da Dice is actually one of them. They probably only made a PR mistake but later actually solved the highlighted storage issue.
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June 13, 2015, 05:21:28 AM
#74
anyone remember coinichiwa is was quite the site back in the day lol Cheesy i would recommend it but i havetnt been back to the site since i left the signature campaign lol it was provably fai and had amazingly fast roll for bets of 1 satoshi Tongue
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June 13, 2015, 05:20:58 AM
#73
There are 3 new dice websites, they are DaDice, CrimeDice & SawDice
DaDice is growing very fast & has good design
Sawdice has unique design, but they still have problem about cold storage

While I agree dadice was one to be reckoned with a month or two ago, they handled their cold storage issues like spoiled little girls and threw a tantrum while closing of investments so they never had to show cold storage and  you say how sawdice has problems? Which have actually been sorted now so it is dadice with the storage issues. OP all new dice sites are a massive risk as you must know if I was to risk it I would go with sawdice but that is a long shot and would not count on massive gains lol
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June 13, 2015, 05:15:13 AM
#72
There are 3 new dice websites, they are DaDice, CrimeDice & SawDice
DaDice is growing very fast & has good design
Sawdice has unique design, but they still have problem about cold storage
I think mostly DaDice has a "problem about cold storage".
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June 13, 2015, 05:04:21 AM
#71
There are 3 new dice websites, they are DaDice, CrimeDice & SawDice
DaDice is growing very fast & has good design
Sawdice has unique design, but they still have problem about cold storage

i dont think sawdice and crimedice are worthy to play there with big deposit as both are suffering with some problems, daidce is good one with instant deposit and withdraw system and betterbets.io is great addition in dice gambling so you can give a try to them.
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June 13, 2015, 03:01:09 AM
#70
I would say www.crypto-games.net  Cool
Why? Only 0.8% house edge, really fast rols - I would say the fastest. Faucet is also big, if you do enough of betting and chatting Smiley
Then, instant deposits, lots of free coins if you participate in chat. Now they opened signature campaigns, so I'm in Cheesy
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June 09, 2015, 07:27:39 PM
#69
Crimedice, although invest option seems to be temporarily disabled
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June 09, 2015, 06:04:37 AM
#68
Try https://dadice.com it's a great place to roll dice for fun & to try & win money.
It's provably fair with a low 1% house edge, there is a live chat facility to talk to other online users. The sites design is superb & looks really good.
Cash outs are really quick if you win some money & withdraw, that's very important to me.
I've tried other dice site but I always come back to Da Dice, they're the best by far in my opinion.
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