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legendary
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December 17, 2018, 12:39:45 PM
#30
I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe.

I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe. Indian NRI CEO is key factor. Indian have very Broad Mind and they know how to increase growth.
Thank team 4New

You can always use this excuse:

"I didn't copy that post! It was Aaryan1234 who edited his post with my words, you can't see it because post was edited within 5 minutes. Ban him not me!"
jr. member
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December 15, 2018, 12:48:02 AM
#29
Yes i agreed, Permanently banned means everything...Ban appeal are very much looked into if you can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that your not guilty as charged then your ban can be lifted
legendary
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December 14, 2018, 06:30:46 PM
#28


I totally agree with the you that the mods here can't be expected to review the entire post histories.

However do you think.

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker?
2. have some sort of reduced sentence like no more sigs for a year or ever or reduced in rank by 2 levels for single stupid infraction like this one or perhaps a 1 in 1000 rate of instance where the person is still clearly a net positive and not a complete waste of space financially motivated spammer? I mean real members who just want to remain will probably not care too much about losing a sig for a year but to lose their entire post history (especially legends) must be quite terrible and in some cases could destroy important histroy.

 




People won't pay anything if they know what they've done wrong. They're just going to be throwing their money away. As I said before, they only complain and play dumb about what they've done because it's their only hope of getting their account back and the is a last ditch attempt to try do so. If we started asking for payment for review then 99% just won't bother or would shut up as soon as you gave them that option.

As for number two, I'd be for signature bans instead of outright bans for spammers/plagiarism, but only theymos can implement them so it's him you'll have to convince. With that being said, a signature ban is as good as a ban to 99% of people who get caught plagiarising so in most instances they'll still complain about that and probably won't have any interest in contributing here if they can't get paid for it.


I didn't see you had replied to this. It must have gone to the next page before I realised.

So yes I agree with this.. so could be a great option. We find one copy and paste (not just like a helpful guide or film quote for a joke)
Then there is 2 options. Pay 0.1btc  or 0.25btc or or more depending on post history size for a full review to ascertain over all quality and rate of incidence. If exceeding the 1.1000 threshold the ban stands on perm. If it is less then they can have a 3 month or 6 month sig ban but stay members.

Well if they are not really enthusiasts and only here to sig spam with no other interest then perhaps there is no real need for them to remain.

I think some smart person on this board who is familiar with game theory could create a very good system that would one get rid of spammer and the net negative and give suitable punishment to those that are net positive but got lazy or even perhaps a little greedy at odd intervals.


legendary
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December 14, 2018, 05:54:35 AM
#27
friend I do agree on my mistake and really feel sad for that also. But if you count one post in 400-500 post dont you think I am not a chronic spammer who should receive such treatment(directly permanent ban)?
With Temporary ban also I get a final warning that I should be careful enough to avoid such posting. If at all I get chance I will surely go back through my back dated post and delete everything which is of low quality.

I know you guys as a moderators have a pretty tough job to keep forum clean and taking such decision helps you to reach final outcome faster and easier but sometime a regular forum poster losses much with that single decision.


I have no idea whether it's one post or numerous but it's not something I'm going to waste time on verifying or not. Usually there's more than just the one and all that usually happens is I waste time painstakingly checking for more because the person lied hoping that the one is all we'd find. Regardless, one post is all you need to be banned. I'm not going to unban anyone for this unless it was a mistake on the mod's part or the rules around banning change as it's not fair to everyone else and just causes more problems as everyone else will then want the same leniency. You can try petition the admin's to either change the rules or unban you if you wish but it'll likely be futile.
legendary
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December 13, 2018, 11:22:54 AM
#26
1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker

As someone who is regularly busting plagiarizers, if you know of a checker that is super accurate and can check tons of posts at once, please let me know.

My experience of online checkers is that they accept 500-1000 words at once, their accuracy is sporadic at best, they are easily fooled by a couple of changed characters, words, or punctuation, and you have to complete 10 captchas for each search. Now, I appreciate I am talking about free checkers here and you may be envisioning using a paid service, but the limitations are the same. Lots of plagiarism will only be found through manual checking to identify text-spinning or changed words as well as posts that have been run through an auto-translator. There is simply not enough time or energy to manually review hundreds or thousands of posts per case.

I agree with you. I expect5 that there is a lot of money waiting for someone if they could produce such software and the forum agrees to a 0.25btc review or greater depending on amount of posts.

Also i feel with a perm sig ban this would work just like a perm ban if they are really only here for the money and to spam.

I think it should be auto sig perm ban because real enthusiasts (which they claim to be) will not give a shit about that. It is the loss of their posts real enthusiasts will consider the biggest issue.  

They can pay 0.25btc maybe or greater for full review if they want that cut down to a 6 month sig ban (if only 1 in 1000 ration is found) and if too much is found then full perm ban.

legendary
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December 13, 2018, 11:11:30 AM
#25
Plagiarism is surely a big offense but I did that in case for an Airdrop purpose, just to qualify for that airdrop(which is never received anyway)
It was nothing to pass on other work as mine that would affect that persons prestige or degrades his member quality.

As it pertains to the forum, the bigger problem is not the harm to the original author but the fact that you're an egregious shitposter who can't even be bothered to type your own words. This is a discussion forum, not "post any garbage to get paid" forum.

And with no hope to get account back there should atleast be another way for offenders doing such things rarely. Its like I have done a crime of killing someone where the only decision is I have to Hang myself and nothing could be done Sad

Spare us the drama. At most this is the equivalent of getting fired from a job for failing horribly at said job.
legendary
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December 13, 2018, 10:32:04 AM
#24
1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker

As someone who is regularly busting plagiarizers, if you know of a checker that is super accurate and can check tons of posts at once, please let me know.

My experience of online checkers is that they accept 500-1000 words at once, their accuracy is sporadic at best, they are easily fooled by a couple of changed characters, words, or punctuation, and you have to complete 10 captchas for each search. Now, I appreciate I am talking about free checkers here and you may be envisioning using a paid service, but the limitations are the same. Lots of plagiarism will only be found through manual checking to identify text-spinning or changed words as well as posts that have been run through an auto-translator. There is simply not enough time or energy to manually review hundreds or thousands of posts per case.
newbie
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December 13, 2018, 10:20:47 AM
#23
dont you think I am not a chronic spammer who should receive such treatment(directly permanent ban)?
With Temporary ban also I get a final warning that I should be careful enough to avoid such posting. If at all I get chance I will surely go back through my back dated post and delete everything which is of low quality.

The forum rules are actually very lenient and not as stringent as it maybe should be, considering the influx of spammers and bots. But the issue of pliagarism is a perculiar case, and there is no second chance, or reprieve, especially when the violation was made in a bid to get a reward. Theymos already discussed this issue;

...Plagiarism is what gets people permabanned, not just copying. Plagiarism is copying with the intent of passing the work off as your own. In essentially all cases, plagiarism deserves a permaban because it usually proves definitively that the person is here for the wrong reasons: to fill up space in order to get paid, not to actually discuss or contribute. If someone was able to convince us that they were plagiarizing just to eg. impress people rather than to fill up space, then a lesser ban of a few months might instead be warranted. But this has never happened AFAICR. (Arguments based on plausible deniability aren't going to work; we don't need to prove that you had the motive we see in your actions.)

If you treat posting as a job, a chore, then you must live in fear, since the forum is not made for you. In this case, you need to blend in as someone who actually cares, but plagiarism will immediately out you, and producing a mountain of useless posts will also eventually be noticed, if more slowly. If you do actually care, then this will be obvious in your posts (and probably your merit score), and you will have nothing to fear from moderators; even allegations of plagiarism will be doubted when seen in the context of your other posts...

There is no hope of getting your account back.
And new accounts created by you and posting outside this thread would be tagged for Ban evasion and banned as well.
You can still read and learn from the forum

Plagiarism is surely a big offense but I did that in case for an Airdrop purpose, just to qualify for that airdrop(which is never received anyway)
It was nothing to pass on other work as mine that would affect that persons prestige or degrades his member quality.


And with no hope to get account back there should atleast be another way for offenders doing such things rarely. Its like I have done a crime of killing someone where the only decision is I have to Hang myself and nothing could be done Sad
member
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December 13, 2018, 10:10:58 AM
#22
dont you think I am not a chronic spammer who should receive such treatment(directly permanent ban)?
With Temporary ban also I get a final warning that I should be careful enough to avoid such posting. If at all I get chance I will surely go back through my back dated post and delete everything which is of low quality.

The forum rules are actually very lenient and not as stringent as it maybe should be, considering the influx of spammers and bots. But the issue of pliagarism is a perculiar case, and there is no second chance, or reprieve, especially when the violation was made in a bid to get a reward. Theymos already discussed this issue;

...Plagiarism is what gets people permabanned, not just copying. Plagiarism is copying with the intent of passing the work off as your own. In essentially all cases, plagiarism deserves a permaban because it usually proves definitively that the person is here for the wrong reasons: to fill up space in order to get paid, not to actually discuss or contribute. If someone was able to convince us that they were plagiarizing just to eg. impress people rather than to fill up space, then a lesser ban of a few months might instead be warranted. But this has never happened AFAICR. (Arguments based on plausible deniability aren't going to work; we don't need to prove that you had the motive we see in your actions.)

If you treat posting as a job, a chore, then you must live in fear, since the forum is not made for you. In this case, you need to blend in as someone who actually cares, but plagiarism will immediately out you, and producing a mountain of useless posts will also eventually be noticed, if more slowly. If you do actually care, then this will be obvious in your posts (and probably your merit score), and you will have nothing to fear from moderators; even allegations of plagiarism will be doubted when seen in the context of your other posts...

There is no hope of getting your account back.
And new accounts created by you and posting outside this thread would be tagged for Ban evasion and banned as well.
You can still read and learn from the forum
newbie
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December 13, 2018, 09:54:51 AM
#21


I totally agree with the you that the mods here can't be expected to review the entire post histories.

However do you think.

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker?
2. have some sort of reduced sentence like no more sigs for a year or ever or reduced in rank by 2 levels for single stupid infraction like this one or perhaps a 1 in 1000 rate of instance where the person is still clearly a net positive and not a complete waste of space financially motivated spammer? I mean real members who just want to remain will probably not care too much about losing a sig for a year but to lose their entire post history (especially legends) must be quite terrible and in some cases could destroy important histroy.

 




People won't pay anything if they know what they've done wrong. They're just going to be throwing their money away. As I said before, they only complain and play dumb about what they've done because it's their only hope of getting their account back and the is a last ditch attempt to try do so. If we started asking for payment for review then 99% just won't bother or would shut up as soon as you gave them that option.

As for number two, I'd be for signature bans instead of outright bans for spammers/plagiarism, but only theymos can implement them so it's him you'll have to convince. With that being said, a signature ban is as good as a ban to 99% of people who get caught plagiarising so in most instances they'll still complain about that and probably won't have any interest in contributing here if they can't get paid for it.

friend I do agree on my mistake and really feel sad for that also. But if you count one post in 400-500 post dont you think I am not a chronic spammer who should receive such treatment(directly permanent ban)?
With Temporary ban also I get a final warning that I should be careful enough to avoid such posting. If at all I get chance I will surely go back through my back dated post and delete everything which is of low quality.

I know you guys as a moderators have a pretty tough job to keep forum clean and taking such decision helps you to reach final outcome faster and easier but sometime a regular forum poster losses much with that single decision.
legendary
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December 13, 2018, 08:59:21 AM
#20


I totally agree with the you that the mods here can't be expected to review the entire post histories.

However do you think.

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker?
2. have some sort of reduced sentence like no more sigs for a year or ever or reduced in rank by 2 levels for single stupid infraction like this one or perhaps a 1 in 1000 rate of instance where the person is still clearly a net positive and not a complete waste of space financially motivated spammer? I mean real members who just want to remain will probably not care too much about losing a sig for a year but to lose their entire post history (especially legends) must be quite terrible and in some cases could destroy important histroy.

 




People won't pay anything if they know what they've done wrong. They're just going to be throwing their money away. As I said before, they only complain and play dumb about what they've done because it's their only hope of getting their account back and the is a last ditch attempt to try do so. If we started asking for payment for review then 99% just won't bother or would shut up as soon as you gave them that option.

As for number two, I'd be for signature bans instead of outright bans for spammers/plagiarism, but only theymos can implement them so it's him you'll have to convince. With that being said, a signature ban is as good as a ban to 99% of people who get caught plagiarising so in most instances they'll still complain about that and probably won't have any interest in contributing here if they can't get paid for it.
legendary
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December 13, 2018, 07:45:35 AM
#19
I totally agree with the you that the mods here can't be expected to review the entire post histories.

However do you think.

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker?

Oh right, all the problems come from the $ involved with spamming the forum and the solution would be a service that also relies on fees and on some people judgment (which of course we know it's a thing that can't be bought with money) /s

2. have some sort of reduced sentence like no more sigs for a year or ever or reduced in rank by 2 levels for single stupid infraction like this one or perhaps a 1 in 1000 rate of instance where the person is still clearly a net positive and not a complete waste of space financially motivated spammer? I mean real members who just want to remain will probably not care too much about losing a sig for a year but to lose their entire post history (especially legends) must be quite terrible and in some cases could destroy important histroy.

For a legendary, a two-level reduction means 750 merits gone they still might accept it but for lower rank means going back to zero so they might just as well start a new account which will bypass the no more sig for a year requirement.
Unfortunately, nobody is enforcing ban evasion.

About net contribution, I can give you a few names, users that were highly valued here....and it would have been far better if they would have been banned before their voluntary exit.

A person that is inclined to cheat for $ will do it again most of the times if you show him that he might actually have a chance to get away with it you're just encouraging it.
legendary
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December 13, 2018, 07:16:09 AM
#18
Is this the only case or is there more? Could this be some kind of error I mean he can not really be seriously claiming this is his own work it is posted only 2 posts before his. This looks more like a airdrop thread where they all parrot the same shit getting some crumbs.


And a lot of people are too lazy to even write original spam. Many people copy posts from the same page because they often think they can get away with it and their posts will get lost in the spam and buried quickly by ages of the same. I can't say whether this is an isolated incident but feel free to go through his posts to see if there's more or not. There usually is but staff have better things to do than go through an entire posting history to see how many posts they've copied and that's why it's a one strike and you're out. If people don't want their accounts banned then they should make sure they're posting original content and not lazy spam.

Even I am willing to know if that Permanent ban can turn into a temp ban and didnt knew the fact that till now none of permanent ban have been turned to temp one which is making me more nervous.

Unless the rules change then in 99.9% of cases a permaban is a permanent ban.

Or Can Mod atleast allow me to have a new account if this ban could not be reversed which I could use ahead making sure I follow all rules? Atleast consider this( since if I dont have any spam post in last 6 months, I will make sure to continue so ahead in future.)

Ban evasion is neither checked for nor enforced so make of that what you will.

I totally agree with the you that the mods here can't be expected to review the entire post histories.

However do you think.

1. some form of paid (by offender) review should be available to run their entire histroy through a checker?
2. have some sort of reduced sentence like no more sigs for a year or ever or reduced in rank by 2 levels for single stupid infraction like this one or perhaps a 1 in 1000 rate of instance where the person is still clearly a net positive and not a complete waste of space financially motivated spammer? I mean real members who just want to remain will probably not care too much about losing a sig for a year but to lose their entire post history (especially legends) must be quite terrible and in some cases could destroy important histroy.

 


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December 13, 2018, 06:37:07 AM
#17
Is this the only case or is there more? Could this be some kind of error I mean he can not really be seriously claiming this is his own work it is posted only 2 posts before his. This looks more like a airdrop thread where they all parrot the same shit getting some crumbs.


And a lot of people are too lazy to even write original spam. Many people copy posts from the same page because they often think they can get away with it and their posts will get lost in the spam and buried quickly by ages of the same. I can't say whether this is an isolated incident but feel free to go through his posts to see if there's more or not. There usually is but staff have better things to do than go through an entire posting history to see how many posts they've copied and that's why it's a one strike and you're out. If people don't want their accounts banned then they should make sure they're posting original content and not lazy spam.

Even I am willing to know if that Permanent ban can turn into a temp ban and didnt knew the fact that till now none of permanent ban have been turned to temp one which is making me more nervous.

Unless the rules change then in 99.9% of cases a permaban is a permanent ban.

Or Can Mod atleast allow me to have a new account if this ban could not be reversed which I could use ahead making sure I follow all rules? Atleast consider this( since if I dont have any spam post in last 6 months, I will make sure to continue so ahead in future.)

Ban evasion is neither checked for nor enforced so make of that what you will.
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December 13, 2018, 01:12:00 AM
#16
but I feel there should be something they need to work on..
Dude, the problem isn't with the moderators or with the forum.  The problem is with you.  You broke the rules, and everyone in this thread is telling you what the consequences are for doing that, and they're correct.  You're permabanned.  It doesn't matter what your other posts are or how long you've been here; you got busted for plagiarism and that's it.  It doesn't matter what you think about the rules--they're applied the same to everyone, and as far as a warning goes, if you'd bothered to actually read the rules there would be no warning or clarification necessary.

Where's the bingo card, anyway?

I am accepting the fact that rule was broken for spamming but that was time when Airdrop site just needed a post for there promotion purposes. I am just asking to take into consideration the other part of my story where after that post I had made around 400-500 post and that one post costing me so much means a lot of me.



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edit.. I think since it is a fairly recent account it is pointless to contest it really. Nobody will probably be willing to see if there are more instances and he probably does not have the funds to pay any person to scan it over to find out.  Even then there has been no perm ban over turned yet... even legends so seems a long road to nowhere. Once all typing the same nonsense over and over in airdrops was allowed but it has been banned for a while i guess. To me it unfortunate to lose your account over that one instance. If i knew for sure it was just that one time I would let you off with a temp ban and even a merit reduction but I don't have any control over it.

Even I am willing to know if that Permanent ban can turn into a temp ban and didnt knew the fact that till now none of permanent ban have been turned to temp one which is making me more nervous.


For those few spam post I have even tried to give something to community by trying to list scam websites, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45670366 and this I have not done to impress anyone but to give back what this community has given to me so please consider a temp ban option in this case.

Or Can Mod atleast allow me to have a new account if this ban could not be reversed which I could use ahead making sure I follow all rules? Atleast consider this( since if I dont have any spam post in last 6 months, I will make sure to continue so ahead in future.)
legendary
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December 12, 2018, 02:41:17 PM
#15
I have got my account banned
http://prntscr.com/ltze4c

Link to my previous account - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mayur90-1477559



It says the reason in the ban now. You were probably banned for spam or plagiarism, and in this case that's true:

I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe.

I think 4New coin is revolutionary coin in industry. As it market strategy and team who comes around the globe is more powerful key to spread it to around the globe. Indian NRI CEO is key factor. Indian have very Broad Mind and they know how to increase growth.
Thank team 4New

Also If I am not allowed to open a new account, how am I suppose to continue my participation in already working translation bounty campaign?
Without updating thread periodically, I will not receive anything for the work I have done till now.


You can't. This is like getting fired from a workplace and asking "but how will I do my work".

Is this the only case or is there more? Could this be some kind of error I mean he can not really be seriously claiming this is his own work it is posted only 2 posts before his. This looks more like a airdrop thread where they all parrot the same shit getting some crumbs. It used to be okay to just do this. I don't think he is seriously trying to pass this work off as his own.

I guess if that was his only one then a coulple of  months ban and a small btc find could be enough. He seems financially motivated so hit him up for a 0.2BTC fine I expect he would never do it again.

These airdrop threads where everyone used to say the same thing over and over are junk anyway. The devs used to even say reply with "bla bla bla bla" so we all had to reply with the same " x project looks to be great I want in "

The trouble is the not really these shitty airdrop threads because nobody bothers with this now unless they are totally desperate since 99% are scams. The real offenders are the fake conversation scum in the discussion boards or the meaningless posters on the ANN threads.

Only a reasonably new account anyway so not like this person has put years of effort in and done a lot of good for the board.

Just saying if that is the only one it looks like either an quote error or certainly not someone claiming that is his own work. It was posted 2 posts before his on the same thread. Not like some who are sneakily getting posts from months before in different threads and using to get sig money or whatever.


edit.. I think since it is a fairly recent account it is pointless to contest it really. Nobody will probably be willing to see if there are more instances and he probably does not have the funds to pay any person to scan it over to find out.  Even then there has been no perm ban over turned yet... even legends so seems a long road to nowhere. Once all typing the same nonsense over and over in airdrops was allowed but it has been banned for a while i guess. To me it unfortunate to lose your account over that one instance. If i knew for sure it was just that one time I would let you off with a temp ban and even a merit reduction but I don't have any control over it.



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December 12, 2018, 02:09:35 PM
#14
but I feel there should be something they need to work on..
Dude, the problem isn't with the moderators or with the forum.  The problem is with you.  You broke the rules, and everyone in this thread is telling you what the consequences are for doing that, and they're correct.  You're permabanned.  It doesn't matter what your other posts are or how long you've been here; you got busted for plagiarism and that's it.  It doesn't matter what you think about the rules--they're applied the same to everyone, and as far as a warning goes, if you'd bothered to actually read the rules there would be no warning or clarification necessary.

Where's the bingo card, anyway?
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December 12, 2018, 11:02:05 AM
#13
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December 12, 2018, 10:43:23 AM
#12
hilariousetc IS a Global Moderator. That's just his second account (the main one is hilariousandco).

You already got your answer. You can't keep posting in this forum and you can't keep "working" in your translation bounty campaigns. It doesn't matter if you think you needed a warning, or a temporary ban, or whatever. Almost every day there is a new user banned here for the same thing, and no one ever gets a second chance.

Firstly thanks for letting me know he is a Global moderator.
Secondly, Sir have you ever gone through my profile before directly stating that? If not I request you to please go through it once. Check all my recent post to cross check if I am actually a spammer.

Which user according to you got banned for the post done more then 6 months before?

Please, read my post again. Where exactly did I say that you are a spammer?

All I said was: YOU BROKE THE RULES, SO NOW YOU FACE THE CONSEQUENCES. You don't choose which consequences you will face - thus it doesn't matter if you think a single offense from X months ago isn't worth a ban. The mod, the one with the authority in this forum, said that you will remain banned, so you will. End of the story. Cry all you want, but nothing will change, nor you will get a second chance.

Offense done 6 months ago costing you permanent ban seems to harsh..Agreed to what you want to convey.. If moderators feels I am guilty nothing could be done, but I feel there should be something they need to work on..
I hope few Global Moderator please go through my profile to find if I am actually a spammer or atleast provide me chance to open a new account which I could use for bounty since bounty for me is bread and butter and if its gone I dont have other earning source to work with.
Really a permanent ban for a more then 6 month old spam is too harsh.

Please look into it moderators.
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December 12, 2018, 10:09:21 AM
#11
Ban appeal are very much looked into if you can prove beyond any reasonable doubt that your not guilty as charged then your ban can be lifted

Well realistically it ban placed on members has always be correct if I researched well and I still stand to be corrected it has only been once that a ban appeal was accepted and ban lifted
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