Topic: Any thoughts on Web5 vs Web3? (Read 249 times)

WEB3 has been fully realized as something technological. All we have seen is an attempt to speculate on this technology and nothing else. Whether it's WEB5, WEB25, etc., it's unlikely to change anything. All the technology in cryptocurrency is almost irrelevant, everyone just wants to make money. WEB3 has suffered the same fate, no one is properly using this technology, projects are trying to just parasitize on it and make money. Can this be considered a failure of technology or a failure? Hardly, because no one is not interested in the utilitarian features of technology, everyone is interested in how much you can earn on this technology, and most importantly, how fast.

Tech for it is so far away, and the concept could be done with something else than bitcoin. Jack Dorsey who came up with the web5 term is just a bitcoin maxi.
But it's been a long time coming and after all the issues with are figured out, there will need to be tech that's so new it needs to be tested for years before anything big can be adopted into it. For a long time it will be just a hobbyist playground with ton of privacy and security exploits to deal with.

I believe there is currently no significant outlook for both of them. Web 3.0 does not yet deliver its promises, in fact, currently, it is recognized as a scam for regular users. While on the other hand, Web5 is merely a buzzword to mock Web3 developments. It does have an attempt to solve crucial issues that Web3 lack of, but as of now, there isn't any hope it would be achieved sooner.

A lot of time and development still required to make it perfect, and also solid and rigid usecase is also essential in order for both these thing became popular.

Web3 didn't just fade away but it was never really used much for developments as of now, and I thought we are yet to enter the era of web3 now I'm hearing about web5 already, we should first give some time and space to web3 and see if apps and platforms developed using the actual web3 tools and techniques work well or not, and then we should reach a conclusion if it doesn't work as per our expectations, we have only seen it being hyped but not being used.

Whatever projects promoted themselves to have utilized web3 actually lied, I've not seen a single platform that has actually utilized web3 technology and didn't just use the name for marketing, so I personally believe web3 needs its time, and developers need to focus on it and use it so that it can be seen by the world.

Exactly, we are still not done with Web3 and if there's a Web5 already that only means Web3 is not that good.
Though I still see some projects coming in using the Web3 platform and its promising. That statement for having a Web5 technology is indeed using it for their marketing gimmick, many will surely follow that hype but if you know how to analyze a project, you can easily notice what is fake here.

Indeed, they are just trying to hype their project and for sure just want to get the money from the investors.
Web3 are still not fully operational since many are still using the normal Web option and if a project already claims to be the Web5 and have a good innovation, better to think again before investing.

You mean that crappy spin-off by the founder of twitter?

Garbage. Just a tacky marketing scheme to promote his own language and ecosystem. There is no chance that he will be able to conquer the internet with web5, when web3 already exists and is serving a fantastic purpose.


If you are only looking in the areas where you will see silly NFT pictures, token gambling projects, "endless fads" (fads always end, btw, makes no sense) or investment schemes, then of course your opinion of web3 will be skewed. The fact is that this is extremely incorrect. If you take away the bad and look at the technologies that have been created via web3, especially that of what is within decentralized finance then you will see that web3 is actually extremely prosperous and enables a lot of good capabilities that will improve day to day life, if crypto is adopted as a mainstream currency.


It seems that you are not totally informed on web3 just as much as you are not informed about web5. Decentralized apps, identity, data storage, payments with Bitcoin, are all possible with web3.

Unfortunately, even web3 and it wasn’t fully used and explored well for many reasons and one of the important reasons is security, people are afraid of even trying or apply web3 applications for their companies because of several attempts and breaches in hacking these applications which leads every time to huge losses. Without talking about the noose formed by govs against crypto and anything related to such as web3.
Web4 is a better development in my opinion and a very useful one after merging AI with many applications and discovering the limitless of artificial intelligence, But web5 honestly i have no information about it yet. And i think it’s a bit early to go for it as we may still see more updates with Web4 and AI.

People comes up the idea and call it web5 for marketing gimmick. Even there's no firm idea how web3 works and even fully integrated, web4 and web5 already exists by their own terms and definitions.
In fact, most internet users just interact more on web2 concept of internet.

As far as I understand Web3 is yet to be fully developed and it still needs a lot of time to be fully functional while web5 is just some plans and the grounds for it are yet formed.   I also agree with the reply that this web5 thing is only buzz word or someone just announced it for dibs. 

Web3 is yet to be fully developed and integrated so this web5 stuff will not happen anytime soon.

Ahahaha, funny you come up with this (semi-)scam just now. It's not new at all. I heard about this over one years ago and dismissed it on the spot.
So, as others have stated already, web5 is just a pure marketing name.

I'd highly recommend to watch this awesome 2-minute summary by fireship: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDZWWFSZUF0
Probably all you need to know in there.

Personally I am waiting for webXP /s

Thanks for the reference link. It's just filled with buzz words. Based on what I've seen so far, it doesn't have much difference compared to the web3 we have today other than the fact that it just adds another layer of complexity in a bit to decentralize more things like nodes. If it's true that only Bitcoin would be utilized, it would be interesting to know how they plan to keep decentralized nodes up and running without incentivizing node runners.

At this point in crypto, our primary concern should be simplifying abstract concepts and reduce the barrier to entry to the barest minimum if we want to achieve mass adoption.

Yours is even better, at least you know the concept of Web3 and 4. As for me,I have no idea on the concept of web3 so I am planning to make a rigorous study on this web3 technology. And this thread make me to navigate the internet and I come out with this https://builtin.com/blockchain/web5, From what I discovered, web5 is the upgraded version of web3 is like Bitcoin blockchain that individuals control their data in the net. This will be nice for the Cryptocurrency blockchain.

One grows weary of hearing the same catchphrases over and over, dont you? Web3, Web5,. We stumble over overstated concepts and broken promises like we're competing in the digital Olympics.

Currently, Web3 appears to be in hot water. I share your sentiments about how it has declined, particularly as a facility for the production of dubious coins and NFTs. While we marvel at what Web5 can accomplish, I do worry if we are simply replacing one buzzword with another.

A welcome change is the emphasis on decentralized identification, data storage, and payments, as well as on Bitcoin-using apps. However, we must carefully consider any scale challenges and potential problems with Web5 before we crown it as king. Being cautious is crucial, especially in the volatile cryptosphere.

Things are happening so fast that we haven't even learned what's on web3 yet not we do have this web5. It wouldn't be surprising if there are AIs involved in this stage of the internet but it gonna get more complicated since there is also an update about G5 which I think the G6 is coming.

I couldn't keep up with what is new. If there is anything that is to know, there will be hyped about it and scams about it. And I guess its the scam that will force us to learn what's on this web5.

Marketing hard at work. Skip Web4, go straight to Web5. Or skip that too and go for Web6. Or Web95, that number worked great for Windows. Followed by Web360 and Web2000.

--Knight Hider

Too early for web5 right now, why even create topic about it? It's upcoming and we aren't even into web3 yet, why Web5? I don't care which ever is going to work out, whatever works work, and what will matter is experience.

The different is not even like that of layer 1 vs layer 2 projects, so we shouldn't be talking about web5 right now, Let's focus on web3 and see if it will work as it looks promising right now.

I am still in doubt about Web3 because it look like a fad right now, something that's not going to show anything on the long run, im still waiting for any development that will make Web3 a success.

Actually web5 is just a concept and not really real, it can even be said as people's imagination, only Web3 is a real concept and has been implemented on the internet. Moreover to say that web3 is a failure is quite unreasonable, considering that this concept is just being developed and there are not many users globally and it still needs to be developed further. This concept should be further developed in the future, considering that many people are quite enthusiastic about the presence of Web3 on the internet.

My first time reading about web 5, when web 3 hasn't even made any significant progress in term of development and adoption, well, maybe there have been some progress in development, but sincere, we can't say same for adoption..

And yeah, you are definitely right about all the shit and scam tokens and NFTs being sold out in the name of decentralized web 3 ecosystem, but then,  how will using bitcoin as a base currency in web 5 help matters, will this not involve building decentralized apps on Bitcoin blockchain which might result in a another congested network which leads to high transaction cost on the chain?.

To the people commenting that they haven't heard of it. Yes it is a real thing. Just google "Web5" or go here: https://developer.tbd.website/

It was proposed a year ago by Jack Dorsey and the infrastructure and the first apps for it have been worked on for the past year. But yeah its just starting. From what I understand Jack Dorsey launched a division of his Block company, called TBD, a year ago to start developing the protocols and work on the initial infrastructure and apps of Web5.

And I assume it was called Web5 as opposed to Web4 just to separate it from the Web3 idea, because of Web3 turned into just a scammy altcoin fad mess so they don't want to have people think it is just an iteration or update to Web3. That would be my guess as to why it isn't named Web4.

I don't know about it in technical detail but from what I understand it somehow uses Bitcoin (as well as other decentralized tech) as the backbone of its infrastructure. The primary features of Web5 are decentralized identity and personal ownership of your data and decentralized web nodes, with bitcoin and stablecoins being the payments rails for Web5.

So, it's basically like what Web3 was supposed to be but turned out not to be, and uses Bitcoin rather than a bunch of random altcoins. Whereas Web3 basically devolved into being a bunch of centralized scammy and token-based gambling apps (the idea of DeFi basically turned into "GambleFi" and was never very decentralized in the first place), Web5's goal is to actually be a network of decentralized apps built on real decentralized tech like Bitcoin. Web3 turned into just centralized blockchain apps to mess around with mostly useless tokens, so it completely failed to be the "decentalized app internet" it was supposed to be. Web5 picks up this idea where Web3 failed.

I believe I heard about the first Web5 app, a messaging app, being launched recently, or maybe about to launch, though I can't find it at the moment searching online for it.

So yes it is very early right now and is in more the infrastructure building phase than actual apps being out for it yet.