Anybody but Obamney, PROTEST VOTE (thrid party) - page 2.

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Quote from: FreeMoney on September 04, 2012, 03:43:38 AM

You know how the media gets all hot and bothered about voter turnout? It's because it legitimizes the system all their friends control. If some tiny minority went and picked themselves a leader it would be clear that he's just their leader, getting everyone involved keeps up the illusion that we all consent to the system. I don't.

Quote from: bitcoinbear on August 28, 2012, 08:58:10 AM

But the media does not report the voter turnout, they report the percentage of votes cast. And whoever wins, if people just stay home rater than voting third party, the winner will say "I got over 50% of the vote so I have a MANDATE to do whatever the fuck I want". When they only get a plurality of votes instead of a majority they can't say that as much. (Not that it really affects what they do, just how it is percieved)

One of these people is wrong. I'm willing to bet it's not FreeMoney.

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Quote from: lebing on August 31, 2012, 12:40:42 AM

You know how the media gets all hot and bothered about voter turnout? It's because it legitimizes the system all their friends control. If some tiny minority went and picked themselves a leader it would be clear that he's just their leader, getting everyone involved keeps up the illusion that we all consent to the system. I don't.

I'm not saying that voting actually makes you responsible for following their terrible laws. If you think it can protect you, go for it. Maybe this time you'll actually tip the scales in the "should we rape the ladies in the lifeboat" political hypothetical. After you lose the rape vote again you can still try to drown the bastards.

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Quote from: ribuck on September 04, 2012, 03:06:16 AM

Voting for a third party says "I support this broken and corrupt system and this is who I want to be in charge".

Not voting says "I don't support this broken and corrupt system".

This +9000.

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Voting for a third party says "I support this broken and corrupt system and this is who I want to be in charge".

Not voting says "I don't support this broken and corrupt system".

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The thrid party? Got a manifest?

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Quote from: Topazan on September 04, 2012, 01:53:33 AM

Does that metaphor mean you expect the US government to collapse in the near future? Then why even have this conversation?

You got me there. Wink

I'm of the opinion that voting, for any candidate, just encourages them to keep holding elections.

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Does that metaphor mean you expect the US government to collapse in the near future? Then why even have this conversation?

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Quote from: Topazan on September 04, 2012, 01:39:54 AM

I never claimed that it would solve the fundamental problems with democracy, just that it would weaken the hold of the two party system.

Why polish the doorknobs on the Titanic?

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Quote from: myrkul on September 04, 2012, 12:49:34 AM

Quote from: Topazan on September 04, 2012, 12:28:02 AM

What we need is instant run-off voting. Then we'd be able to vote our hearts AND hedge against the greater of two evils.

So....

Wolf A's ballot reads:
Wolf A: 1
Wolf B: 2
Sheep: 3

Wolf B's ballot:
Wolf A: 2
Wolf B: 1
Sheep: 3

The Sheep's ballot:
Wolf A: 3
Wolf B: 2
Sheep: 1

Wolf A: 1 number 1 spot, one number 2 spot, and 1 number 3 spot.
Wolf B: 1 number 1 spot, two number 2 spots, and 0 number 3 spots.
Sheep: 1 number one spot, 0 number two spots, and 2 number 3 spots.

First run:
Sheep is eliminated.

Second run:
Wolf A is eliminated.

Who picks dinner:
Wolf B.

I never claimed that it would solve the fundamental problems with democracy, just that it would weaken the hold of the two party system.

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Quote from: Topazan on September 04, 2012, 12:28:02 AM

What we need is instant run-off voting. Then we'd be able to vote our hearts AND hedge against the greater of two evils.

So....

Wolf A's ballot reads:
Wolf A: 1
Wolf B: 2
Sheep: 3

Wolf B's ballot:
Wolf A: 2
Wolf B: 1
Sheep: 3

The Sheep's ballot:
Wolf A: 3
Wolf B: 2
Sheep: 1

Wolf A: 1 number 1 spot, one number 2 spot, and 1 number 3 spot.
Wolf B: 1 number 1 spot, two number 2 spots, and 0 number 3 spots.
Sheep: 1 number one spot, 0 number two spots, and 2 number 3 spots.

First run:
Sheep is eliminated.

Second run:
Wolf A is eliminated.

Who picks dinner:
Wolf B.

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If you're doing the write in thing, there is no choice but Jay Bierce.

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What we need is instant run-off voting. Then we'd be able to vote our hearts AND hedge against the greater of two evils.

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Waste of time. Third-parties have no chance of winning, so voting for them is pointless. Rather than wasting ~30 minutes voting, use that time to educate people about libertarianism (or whatever).

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Quote from: myrkul on September 01, 2012, 03:41:09 PM

Damn straight. Lesser evil are for chumps. Vote for the greater evils, and be rewarded with a quick death.

Suicide Booth : Please select your mode of death. And once more I am Mitt Romney and I support this message.

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Damn straight. Lesser evil are for chumps. Vote for the greater evils, and be rewarded with a quick death.

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Quote from: Explodicle on August 31, 2012, 09:02:29 AM

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Quote from: myrkul on August 31, 2012, 01:07:09 AM

Quote from: scintill on August 31, 2012, 01:03:07 AM

I've been on the fence about voting third-party, or voting Obama because he's not quite as bad and it would count for more. Thoughts?

Not quite as bad? You're joking, right?

He's broken every campaign promise, and jokes about killing people with predator drones.

sigh, I know. I just can't bring myself to potentially help Romney win.

Don't let the Democrats trick you! The only vote that helps Romney win is a vote for Romney. When votes for Nader "helped Bush win" in 2000 the Democrats were quick to point the finger at him and his supporters, but then what did they do to FIX the spoiler effect when they finally won power?

Nothing.

They did nothing to fix the spoiler effect and never WILL do anything to fix the spoiler effect because it keeps THEM in power too. So when we say "lesser evil" or blame ourselves for not compromising with 49% evil, they laugh all the way to the bank. Obama and his ilk have perpetuated this dilemma on purpose... that alone should be reason to refuse him.

Yes, there's a .00001% chance your vote will "let Romney win" because you could have voted Obama, but it's a scam perpetuated by both parties. Just vote for whoever you think is best - if everyone had the conscience to do that instead of try to game their fellow Americans, we'd be living in a much more peaceful place.

Couldn`t agree with all of you more,You get what you vote for and I know you have all heard that voting for a third paty canidate is a waste of your vote 1. Voting for either of these clowns is just as big of a waste of your vote. And 2. As for the people who say that it is impossible for third parties to win, the progressives used to be a thrid party and we are not trying to win (not yet but it is a goal). This vote is meant to make a statement the system won`t change unless you force it to.

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Quote from: Imagine on August 30, 2012, 11:15:59 PM

I am tired like most of our two party poltical system other countries have many functioning parties why not the U.S. So I am going to start the anybody but Obamney campain all you have to do is not vote for Obamney and vote for anyone else. If Jill stien (green party) is on my ballot my vote is going to her. At one time I debated upon voting for Gary Johnson but he is to far to the right of the libertarian party to get my vote (not a big ancap or arms deregulation fan). PROTEST WITH YOUR VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm done with the two parties as well, no more lesser of two evils voting for me ever again. I'm voting Gary Johnson as I agree with him on almost everything he says.

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