One thing about bitcoin naysayers is that they will always find excuses and reasons to hate on bitcoin. I couldn't trust people who are so consistently negative of something promising like bitcoin despite the years of proof it has already provided; not even if my life depended on it.
Or maybe I'm only saying this because I've spent most of my life around bitcoin and crypto, well whatever that is.
Personally, I wouldn't want you to trust these people, they are naysayers, they'd always say no, regardless of any valid point you throw back at them. Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall, you can never change their ideals. Some of them make valid points tho, which is something that could really scare you, but provided that you studied bitcoin personally, I'm pretty sure you have enough knowledge of who to trust and who not to. The decision to falter is entirely yours.
Topic: Anyone else getting deflated with the bitcoin naysayers? (Read 408 times)
It sure is very hard sometimes to talk to some people about bitcoin. Some people are hell bent on their opinions and won’t budge from their own views no matter how hard you try to convince them. I wouldn’t exactly categorize all of them as ignorant people.
Some are not and some are just plain stupid. Others are afraid to think outside the box and wander out of what they’re comfortable with so they’re just okay doing and using what they’ve always done and used.
I still try to teach people that I sense are open to changing their views. It most times end up not so good but the few times I’ve gotten people to change their perspective about bitcoin is worth it and that edges me on.
This is why I am afraid to make my first move but I will only talk BTC to them once they mention something about it because I know that they are interested with it. I will only be honest so that they are aware if what to expect and I will not be blamed later on, in case there is something wrong with what they have done but they can always consult me again if ever they want to improve and compare their results with me.Some are not and some are just plain stupid. Others are afraid to think outside the box and wander out of what they’re comfortable with so they’re just okay doing and using what they’ve always done and used.
I still try to teach people that I sense are open to changing their views. It most times end up not so good but the few times I’ve gotten people to change their perspective about bitcoin is worth it and that edges me on.
For those people who are not convinced, well that is already their problem already. Just let these kind of people be jealous once they found out that Bitcoin just break another new ATH and it will be featured on the headlines again.
It sure is very hard sometimes to talk to some people about bitcoin. Some people are hell bent on their opinions and won’t budge from their own views no matter how hard you try to convince them. I wouldn’t exactly categorize all of them as ignorant people.
Some are not and some are just plain stupid. Others are afraid to think outside the box and wander out of what they’re comfortable with so they’re just okay doing and using what they’ve always done and used.
I still try to teach people that I sense are open to changing their views. It most times end up not so good but the few times I’ve gotten people to change their perspective about bitcoin is worth it and that edges me on.
Some are not and some are just plain stupid. Others are afraid to think outside the box and wander out of what they’re comfortable with so they’re just okay doing and using what they’ve always done and used.
I still try to teach people that I sense are open to changing their views. It most times end up not so good but the few times I’ve gotten people to change their perspective about bitcoin is worth it and that edges me on.
I've been in this space for 6-7 years. I can't imagine how tough it must be for some of you OG's. Do you still try to enlighten others, or do you relinquish to the fact that you aren't really gonna change someone's opinion, only they can do that?
I don't try to enlighten other people, for me sharing them about the Bitcoin is enough. Pushing them forward will only give me problem because when thing goes wrong, they will blame me for pushing them to join the Bitcoin economy. For me I believe it is not my responsibility to enlighten them about Bitcoin. It is their own diligent that they should do research on things that can give them a fortune. So telling them about the existence of Bitcoin and giving some success story is enough, if they get interested then give them deeper information. If they don't show any form of interest, I istop and don force them to believe on Bitcoin..
One of the most difficult tasks or challenges I've had is openly discussing the multitudes of positives that bitcoin has, with others that are skeptics.
I've been studying/reading/buying bitcoin since 2016. It's the best invention I've seen in my 50 years on this planet. The ability for anyone around the world, to take custody of their own money. The ability to transact with anyone, around the world, at any given time. The open ledger (blockchain) to hold all transaction accountable (that even the US Gov doesn't have). The limited amount (21 million). The security. The uptime. I could go on...
But of all the discussions I've had with co-workers, friends, and relatives about bitcoin, it seems to fall on deaf ears. In fact, if talking to more than one person, it seems to be almost a witch-hunt on how bad of a ponzi bitcoin is, and how 'it is backed by nothing', etc.
Now I realize that this reaction comes out of either fear, ignorance, or not knowing enough about it. But no matter how hard I try to educate someone on the positives, it falls on deaf ears with some. And it's deflating to the core.
I've been in this space for 6-7 years. I can't imagine how tough it must be for some of you OG's. Do you still try to enlighten others, or do you relinquish to the fact that you aren't really gonna change someone's opinion, only they can do that?
I've been studying/reading/buying bitcoin since 2016. It's the best invention I've seen in my 50 years on this planet. The ability for anyone around the world, to take custody of their own money. The ability to transact with anyone, around the world, at any given time. The open ledger (blockchain) to hold all transaction accountable (that even the US Gov doesn't have). The limited amount (21 million). The security. The uptime. I could go on...
But of all the discussions I've had with co-workers, friends, and relatives about bitcoin, it seems to fall on deaf ears. In fact, if talking to more than one person, it seems to be almost a witch-hunt on how bad of a ponzi bitcoin is, and how 'it is backed by nothing', etc.
Now I realize that this reaction comes out of either fear, ignorance, or not knowing enough about it. But no matter how hard I try to educate someone on the positives, it falls on deaf ears with some. And it's deflating to the core.
I've been in this space for 6-7 years. I can't imagine how tough it must be for some of you OG's. Do you still try to enlighten others, or do you relinquish to the fact that you aren't really gonna change someone's opinion, only they can do that?
You shouldn't have to think about it until it makes you dizzy, sir.
If it turns out that there are still many people who don't consider your thoughts about Bitcoin.
Not everyone can agree with our thoughts and we cannot force our thoughts on others.
At least you have expressed your thoughts, if they don't agree with your thoughts then let them.
No need to think about it, it's better to give the knowledge and thoughts you have mastered about Bitcoin to interested people or people who ask you for advice.
That's better than continuing to debate people who can't and don't want to understand and study the potential of Bitcoin.
I've been in this space for 6-7 years. I can't imagine how tough it must be for some of you OG's. Do you still try to enlighten others, or do you relinquish to the fact that you aren't really gonna change someone's opinion, only they can do that?
7 years is already a long time to be involved with crypto currencies, I haven't been around much longer than you. By now all my friends and family know about cryptos as I have told them countless times about the opportunities, but there quite a few people that are still reluctant to accept the positive aspects of cryptos. I can understand my parents and great parents that are already old and don't want to buy anything risky anymore. But some of my younger friends who are looking for ways to invest their money are still afraid of bitcoins. Which is a bit weird because they are looking for high returns to beat inflation, and still are afraid to accept some risks. What I learned over the years is that you can't convince everybody about the positive aspects of crypto currencies. Everybody has his own ideas and thoughts, and some people have made up their mind about cryptos that is not really rational and can't be changed by arguments. The best thing for me is to avoid the topic all together and talk about things we have in common.
But of all the discussions I've had with co-workers, friends, and relatives about bitcoin, it seems to fall on deaf ears. In fact, if talking to more than one person, it seems to be almost a witch-hunt on how bad of a ponzi bitcoin is, and how 'it is backed by nothing', etc.
You're trying too hard. Don't fight them because some people live to argue. By giving them arguments you allow them to attack these arguments or ignore them. You, as the old saying goes, wrestle with a pig.
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Now I realize that this reaction comes out of either fear, ignorance, or not knowing enough about it. But no matter how hard I try to educate someone on the positives, it falls on deaf ears with some. And it's deflating to the core.
It often does, in any field. Look at politicians and their debates.
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I've been in this space for 6-7 years. I can't imagine how tough it must be for some of you OG's. Do you still try to enlighten others, or do you relinquish to the fact that you aren't really gonna change someone's opinion, only they can do that?
I don't try anymore unless someone approaches me with these ridiculous ideas that it's a ponzi scheme. I simply tell them to give me a definition of a ponzi scheme and show me how it relates to a decentralized payment system.
One of the most difficult tasks or challenges I've had is openly discussing the multitudes of positives that bitcoin has, with others that are skeptics.
I've been studying/reading/buying bitcoin since 2016. It's the best invention I've seen in my 50 years on this planet. The ability for anyone around the world, to take custody of their own money. The ability to transact with anyone, around the world, at any given time. The open ledger (blockchain) to hold all transaction accountable (that even the US Gov doesn't have). The limited amount (21 million). The security. The uptime. I could go on...
But of all the discussions I've had with co-workers, friends, and relatives about bitcoin, it seems to fall on deaf ears. In fact, if talking to more than one person, it seems to be almost a witch-hunt on how bad of a ponzi bitcoin is, and how 'it is backed by nothing', etc.
Now I realize that this reaction comes out of either fear, ignorance, or not knowing enough about it. But no matter how hard I try to educate someone on the positives, it falls on deaf ears with some. And it's deflating to the core.
I've been in this space for 6-7 years. I can't imagine how tough it must be for some of you OG's. Do you still try to enlighten others, or do you relinquish to the fact that you aren't really gonna change someone's opinion, only they can do that?
I've been studying/reading/buying bitcoin since 2016. It's the best invention I've seen in my 50 years on this planet. The ability for anyone around the world, to take custody of their own money. The ability to transact with anyone, around the world, at any given time. The open ledger (blockchain) to hold all transaction accountable (that even the US Gov doesn't have). The limited amount (21 million). The security. The uptime. I could go on...
But of all the discussions I've had with co-workers, friends, and relatives about bitcoin, it seems to fall on deaf ears. In fact, if talking to more than one person, it seems to be almost a witch-hunt on how bad of a ponzi bitcoin is, and how 'it is backed by nothing', etc.
Now I realize that this reaction comes out of either fear, ignorance, or not knowing enough about it. But no matter how hard I try to educate someone on the positives, it falls on deaf ears with some. And it's deflating to the core.
I've been in this space for 6-7 years. I can't imagine how tough it must be for some of you OG's. Do you still try to enlighten others, or do you relinquish to the fact that you aren't really gonna change someone's opinion, only they can do that?
To answer your question: no, I no longer try to educate people about Bitcoin. I tried for years but then I gave up. Last time I tried was back in something like 2019. And guess what? I failed every time. Now my pov has changed: if you're refusing to own/learn about Bitcoin you don't deserve it!
But I have to admit I haven't heard "bitcoin is a ponzi" for a while now. Mostly people are complaining they didn't invest earlier and "now it's too late". No, we're not late, we are still early and now is the time to buy. But as you put it: deaf ears haha
Thats a good point, surely when the next bull run hits hard and the Bitcoin market crosses
the $100,000 range the media will be on it big time.
So you could treat our small endeavours at teaching people as "sowing seeds" that
will hopefully germinate and become healthy shoots in the future!
When ATH $100,000 is reached, the crypto market will be very hype with various media reporting the incredible price increase of bitcoin in history. the $100,000 range the media will be on it big time.
So you could treat our small endeavours at teaching people as "sowing seeds" that
will hopefully germinate and become healthy shoots in the future!
That will be the moment everyone starts flocking to get into crypto.
Teach those who really intend to focus on crypto even though the end result is not very satisfying.
But at least you did your best and warned them that the market would be bullish when the time was right.
If you talk about bitcoin to many people, their reactions will surely vary, and maybe they will not believe what you are saying.
They tend to close themselves off and don't want to listen to other people's suggestions about something that might provide an opportunity for them to make more money.
That's natural because they have heard of many cases of fraud and will assume that bitcoin is a fraud so they don't want to try it.
I just tell them what bitcoin is and leave it entirely up to them and if they are interested in bitcoin and want to learn about it, I will teach them.
But for the people who aren't interested, I'll let them decide.
There's no point in changing someone's opinion if they don't want to know.
They tend to close themselves off and don't want to listen to other people's suggestions about something that might provide an opportunity for them to make more money.
That's natural because they have heard of many cases of fraud and will assume that bitcoin is a fraud so they don't want to try it.
I just tell them what bitcoin is and leave it entirely up to them and if they are interested in bitcoin and want to learn about it, I will teach them.
But for the people who aren't interested, I'll let them decide.
There's no point in changing someone's opinion if they don't want to know.
Where do you think faith comes from? Why do you believe in bitcoin? Faith is not built through stories or persuasion from someone but is built from what we experience and verify for ourselves. That's why I say it's a waste of time trying to explain bitcoin to someone. I'm not explaining or trying to convince anyone, I don't have time to do that, and like I said. Show them the results we get from investing in bitcoin, their faith will start from there.
Supply and demand is a factor that makes bitcoin successful, we should not ignore them when talking about bitcoin, but it is not the first factor that opens the story for bitcoin to become more attractive.
I agree that faith should always be built like that, not always like that unfortunately in the world, sometimes older people tell younger people to "have faith" in something, and younger people grow up believing that they should, when in fact they do not know why. Simplest would be governments for example.Supply and demand is a factor that makes bitcoin successful, we should not ignore them when talking about bitcoin, but it is not the first factor that opens the story for bitcoin to become more attractive.
Bitcoin gained trust of everyone and we have faith for it because we have seen that it deserve our faith, not because anyone told us to, but because we saw it ourselves. That is why I believe that we shouldn't be really worried about it, it should be as normal as it gets and shouldn't really be something that shocks us in the long run that people trust it and love it.
One of the most difficult tasks or challenges I've had is openly discussing the multitudes of positives that bitcoin has, with others that are skeptics.
I've been studying/reading/buying bitcoin since 2016. It's the best invention I've seen in my 50 years on this planet. The ability for anyone around the world, to take custody of their own money. The ability to transact with anyone, around the world, at any given time. The open ledger (blockchain) to hold all transaction accountable (that even the US Gov doesn't have). The limited amount (21 million). The security. The uptime. I could go on...
But of all the discussions I've had with co-workers, friends, and relatives about bitcoin, it seems to fall on deaf ears. In fact, if talking to more than one person, it seems to be almost a witch-hunt on how bad of a ponzi bitcoin is, and how 'it is backed by nothing', etc.
Now I realize that this reaction comes out of either fear, ignorance, or not knowing enough about it. But no matter how hard I try to educate someone on the positives, it falls on deaf ears with some. And it's deflating to the core.
I've been in this space for 6-7 years. I can't imagine how tough it must be for some of you OG's. Do you still try to enlighten others, or do you relinquish to the fact that you aren't really gonna change someone's opinion, only they can do that?
everyone has a different view of bitcoin and there are still many people who don't see bitcoin so when you talk about bitcoin with them it will be very tiring especially if they are not touched by bitcoin and focus on their affairs. The coolest thing in this case is if you can prove to your friends that you can be more independent and successful financially and in life, at that time I'm sure people who look down on your efforts to provide bitcoin knowledge at this point will flock - flocks to you and question how the tips and tricks can be successful and ask you to motivate them. I've been studying/reading/buying bitcoin since 2016. It's the best invention I've seen in my 50 years on this planet. The ability for anyone around the world, to take custody of their own money. The ability to transact with anyone, around the world, at any given time. The open ledger (blockchain) to hold all transaction accountable (that even the US Gov doesn't have). The limited amount (21 million). The security. The uptime. I could go on...
But of all the discussions I've had with co-workers, friends, and relatives about bitcoin, it seems to fall on deaf ears. In fact, if talking to more than one person, it seems to be almost a witch-hunt on how bad of a ponzi bitcoin is, and how 'it is backed by nothing', etc.
Now I realize that this reaction comes out of either fear, ignorance, or not knowing enough about it. But no matter how hard I try to educate someone on the positives, it falls on deaf ears with some. And it's deflating to the core.
I've been in this space for 6-7 years. I can't imagine how tough it must be for some of you OG's. Do you still try to enlighten others, or do you relinquish to the fact that you aren't really gonna change someone's opinion, only they can do that?
it's easier to tell Bitcoin to someone who doesn't know anything at all, or someone a little curious and then asks us. instead of telling people who have read bad things about Bitcoin in the media.
I will say, unless you try to get into the market, you will not know the truth. My advice to you, you better leave the discussion to your friends who are skeptical about Bitcoin. and you can get a better space with people who think the same as you.
I will say, unless you try to get into the market, you will not know the truth. My advice to you, you better leave the discussion to your friends who are skeptical about Bitcoin. and you can get a better space with people who think the same as you.
Don't try and convince anyone. Stack sats and enjoy their incredibly low price suppressed by human ignorance.
They will all jump on the bandwagon eventually. Some will do that at $100k, some at $1m, some at $10m. But they all will.
And they'll say you got lucky. But you know everyone buys BTC at the price they deserve.
They will all jump on the bandwagon eventually. Some will do that at $100k, some at $1m, some at $10m. But they all will.
And they'll say you got lucky. But you know everyone buys BTC at the price they deserve.
But of all the discussions I've had with co-workers, friends, and relatives about bitcoin, it seems to fall on deaf ears. In fact, if talking to more than one person, it seems to be almost a witch-hunt on how bad of a ponzi bitcoin is, and how 'it is backed by nothing', etc.
Now I realize that this reaction comes out of either fear, ignorance, or not knowing enough about it. But no matter how hard I try to educate someone on the positives, it falls on deaf ears with some. And it's deflating to the core.
Now I realize that this reaction comes out of either fear, ignorance, or not knowing enough about it. But no matter how hard I try to educate someone on the positives, it falls on deaf ears with some. And it's deflating to the core.
It's mostly out of ignorance. If people have been told that some invention can be used "mainly for making money and becoming rich", then that's all they are going to see it for, even if it has actual utility beyond that.
If people don't have a reason to use it e.g. their bank account wasn't shut down, then they won't bother changing their opinion.
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I've been in this space for 6-7 years. I can't imagine how tough it must be for some of you OG's. Do you still try to enlighten others, or do you relinquish to the fact that you aren't really gonna change someone's opinion, only they can do that?
Some people never change.
You can have these kind of discussion with your co-workers or friends but if they are not convinced about it then let it go instead of getting frustrated or influenced by their talks.Some people who have negative influences are brainwashed about btc not being good source of investment or anything else but they never care to look for it themselves but it's their loss not yours so don't get into too much talks.
Bitcoin value with a simply supply and demand will explain everything.
For those who have no knowledge of bitcoin, it is useless to talk about the supply, what they need is faith in bitcoin. Anyone who knows supply and demand on explaining it will gasp at least a little knowledge on how bitcoin works, on how it had a value when it doesn't have physical form because that's how bitcoin increase so much, simply because of its demand.
Where do you think faith comes from? Why do you believe in bitcoin? Faith is not built through stories or persuasion from someone but is built from what we experience and verify for ourselves. That's why I say it's a waste of time trying to explain bitcoin to someone. I'm not explaining or trying to convince anyone, I don't have time to do that, and like I said. Show them the results we get from investing in bitcoin, their faith will start from there.
Supply and demand is a factor that makes bitcoin successful, we should not ignore them when talking about bitcoin, but it is not the first factor that opens the story for bitcoin to become more attractive.
I used too get annoyed, especially at family gathering where the same questions, and mostly negative comments were made. However, that's changed. I don't really talk about it much anymore, and I couldn't care less what the news is putting out. I've come less interested in reading the news in recent years, and that's not just because of the negativity towards Bitcoin, but in general. The news is very toxic, and almost always has an agenda to their stories. So, I simply cut it out of my life. The only time I get news is through actual conversations, and when I decide to do further research into it.
Honestly, most of the naysayers are wrong, and the one's that do have valid points can be mitigated through various methods. For example, Bitcoin is risky, they'd be somewhat right. However, only to those that don't understand how long it might take, and the reason why I believe Bitcoin will be successful. I could care less about it's price, it's the value it adds to my life. I don't need a third party like a bank for example. Hence, the reason I think it'll continue to be a success. Then, you've got it's deflationary aspect, which you'll never get in any other investment. The closest being property, and that's only because it kind of follows inflation, not that it is deflationary itself.
Honestly, most of the naysayers are wrong, and the one's that do have valid points can be mitigated through various methods. For example, Bitcoin is risky, they'd be somewhat right. However, only to those that don't understand how long it might take, and the reason why I believe Bitcoin will be successful. I could care less about it's price, it's the value it adds to my life. I don't need a third party like a bank for example. Hence, the reason I think it'll continue to be a success. Then, you've got it's deflationary aspect, which you'll never get in any other investment. The closest being property, and that's only because it kind of follows inflation, not that it is deflationary itself.
I think it's helpful to understand a few things about people and how we tend to act in discussions or disputes before applying it to Bitcoin, and then it might be obvious why your attempts to convince friends and colleagues weren't successful, op. So we like to think that we are rational and convinced with facts, but that's not true. We accept facts when we are open to it, and if we are convinced we are right, we ignore facts that try to disprove our beliefs. So if a person is sure that Bitcoin is useless, you need to start slow, and even then you're not likely to fully succeed. The key to successful negotiations is finding common ground. If a person thing Bitcoin is a scam, you could say that scams are terrible, and that it's sad people are being robbed like that, and that we all want to have more safety. Then you can slowly start pointing out that banks also go bankrupt, and haven't you noticed that terrible inflation going on, with food costing more? And present Bitcoin as a good alternative that has its benefits, while agreeing about the risks.
Wall Street has a saying about stocks needing to climb a ‘wall of worry’ in order to increase in value safely. Don’t get discouraged when people are negative about Bitcoin. They’re the wall of worry that the price will climb to go higher. When you should get worried is when everyone is positive and saying Bitcoin is going to the moon. That’s usually the time to sell.
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