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Quote from: Crypto Library on October 04, 2024, 12:44:33 PM

Actually, I was wondering whether that is it really possible to have full enjoyment on the Tor browser with the crypto casino or do anyone here a real experienced on tor friendly casino or if is there any list of tor-friendly casino's? Kindly share your experience-

I used TOR a few years ago, but for a very short time... most things worked very slowly, I couldn't even access some sites, so after a while I just uninstalled it.

Quote from: Crypto Library on October 04, 2024, 12:44:33 PM

And make an opinion on how you maintain privacy in a casino like suppose for your job purpose you have to do a test on a casino so how you will maintain the privacy?

I don't try to achieve some high level of privacy... if I can avoid KYC great, but in some casinos, it is mandatory if we want to play there, also any casino can ask for KYC after some big win or some other reason. It seems that when a casino reaches a higher level they immediately introduce mandatory KYC, so in the future, there will be many crypto casinos where it will be mandatory.

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I asked my friends how they felt about using Tor for casino games. And everyone who tried to go to the casino site had either slowdowns or other problems. Sometimes the country itself bans some casinos, and probably in these cases there can be tricks with changing the IP to Tor or VPN.
If we talk about my experience, then I will not risk and encrypt what is essentially useless if we show our identity one way or another.

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Registering and logging in on casinos using Tor Browser is a pin in the ass though. I have tried a few times where the captcha doesn't work with Tor so I have to use the normal browser again.

Some casinos allow especially the ones that don't require captcha in registration. But I'm sure this will be an issue for casinos when you are winning big or they may make this Tor an issue by changing their policies.

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Although I’ve never experienced gambling with the Tor browser, I’m sure there are casinos that allow it. It seems like an interesting way to maintain privacy while enjoying some gaming. I would also like to see a recommendation for casinos that are allowing Tor browser, or if there’s a list of reliable options out here.
When it comes to maintaining privacy I think it’s a better option than just a decentralized casino or VPN friendly one. If I were to test a casino that allows Tor, I prefer to start with small amounts of deposits, before going to higher amounts due to the lack of informations about these casinos.
I’m also not sure if they are licensed casinos, or if the license providers are allowing Tor Browser in first place, if not, it’s another risky step rather than keeping your privacy.

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Quote from: Cantsay on October 04, 2024, 01:18:49 PM

I don’t understand this part of your post - do you mean how I’ll hide the fact that I gamble from my job or how I’ll hide my identity if I’m to try out a new casino without them knowing who the account belongs to?

It is nothing difficult to understood, suppose you are a campaign manager or a campaign manager assistant and suppose you have a client and you want to try that project I mean play on the casino site before confirming the deal. And here you don't want to give them your Ip.
And let's make these things are aside and make it easy. Assume that you are a very privacy-concerned person you are gonna try a casino site for gambling but want to hide your IP on it.

Quote from: Potato Chips on October 04, 2024, 02:28:46 PM

I don't know any, sadly.

But I imagine this won't fare well for most casino setups because accessing websites through TOR is typically slow so it works best with simple web pages-- for instance, bitcointalk. Typical casino has so much stuff thus it wouldn't be strange if some parts would break. Personally, I don't think I have the patience to play on TOR due to impending sluggishness lol-- for the record I mostly play instant games.

Good point Sometimes I also faced this types of slow loading issues in forums where are used simple graphical interface I just imagine how it will be in case of Casino site really it will be more slower and will not match with the realtime experience. However, I created this topic to know if there is any casino where gaming can be done perfectly using Tor browser.

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Quote from: Cryptomultiplier on October 06, 2024, 07:35:12 AM

but I really don't know how some sites can detect the use of VPN or Tor unless the user registered and completed KYC verification without using VPN or Tor at the onset and now has to log in with the Tor or VPN.

Gamblers do not need to go for KYC before a site can detect that the person is using a VPN to access the site. Gambling sites and other sites that against the use of VPN have ways to easily later know that someone is accessing their site with VPN. Examples of the ways such person can be detected are finding VPN servers based on their open ports and identifying all blacklisted lists on IP addresses. So if anyone is continuing using the VPN, it is possible that the gambling site will later know that the person is not using normal IP addresses.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on October 04, 2024, 01:29:37 PM

Doesn't the Tor browser simply mask your IP address, concealing your location? Isn't it the same using a Cloudflare DNS? Because if so, I've been using a private DNS because some cryptocurrency casinos can't be accessed in my country, and it's been some time and I haven't faced any issues. I'm guessing the same rule would apply to the Tor browser? From how I see things, I don't think you'll have an issue; however, you might run the risk of being flagged for suspicious activity or multiaccounting in case that same IP address has been used before.

Yes, this is a possible problem that we are about to face if the IP address is being masked. Especially now that popular gambling sites are hot on the authorities with their KYC submissions, I think those gambling sites will be more strict with the rules about IPs and multi-accounting too since most of the time that could be where the money laundering scheme is happening and that is to keep their business running.

I would not go to such trouble to test it that would also jeopardize the account especially if it's a highly valued one with a high VIP rank. Privacy is nice but when it's about gambling, it isn't easy to have it because there are others who will take advantage of it.

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Quote from: Strongkored on October 06, 2024, 06:28:44 AM

I have used Tor Browser to access online gambling sites, but unfortunately before logging into the account I had problems loading the site perfectly, even if it could be loaded perfectly it would still be constrained when logging in so I think the gambling site has indeed been set so that users will not be able to access it from the browser, and even if it could, players would experience delays in the game but maybe this is only on my side because the internet connection is not too fast.

I think TOR itself is not suitable for gambling website browsing due to the high speed connection it requires to play casino games while TOR network is so slow to process data due to privacy purposes.

I’m not sure if this was discussed already on this topic but I’m not sure why the need of TOR network to access the casino while casino will surely ask for KYC especially for user that hiding their true IP since casino have a way to determine it.

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Quote from: Taskford on October 06, 2024, 05:12:50 AM

Quote from: bitbollo on October 06, 2024, 03:26:22 AM

It is allowed by ToS of casino or bookmakers? Much probably not! More over why trying to find "privacy" in a site that can force users to get a... KYC?
if this was not enough, what is the real advantage of this approach? Why risk to get banned and lose all winnings?

Most provably not since usually a KYC compliance casino writes in their TOS that its forbidden to use anything that can bypass restriction so provably that using TOR is also not been allowed. So much really better not take a risk and just gamble on safer side since it will give us peace of mind rather than taking the risk then wait for our account to get flagged.

There's no advantage for doing this since this will just create an issue with the gambler use this. Maybe they are just curious to see big wins on the casino and they try to bypass the restriction to try if they could also hit big gains. But for sure if they experience that for sure they might really lose all their winnings since certain verification will provably happen and to bad for them if they caught up using tools to bypass restrictions since most likely they would end up getting banned in the casino.

One of the cons of gambling with restrictions may be that if there's a big win, the gambler would be unable to withdraw it, the account might get banned too, but I really don't know how some sites can detect the use of VPN or Tor unless the user registered and completed KYC verification without using VPN or Tor at the onset and now has to log in with the Tor or VPN.

Tor is a special kind of browser and has better uses that can be helpful for accessing some sites, but with the upgrade that many sites undergo as regards the integration of AI bots, it would be hard for many VPNs and Tor to have or enable the restrictions they are supposed to enhance efficiently.

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I have used Tor Browser to access online gambling sites, but unfortunately before logging into the account I had problems loading the site perfectly, even if it could be loaded perfectly it would still be constrained when logging in so I think the gambling site has indeed been set so that users will not be able to access it from the browser, and even if it could, players would experience delays in the game but maybe this is only on my side because the internet connection is not too fast.

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Quote from: Adbitco on October 06, 2024, 03:25:56 AM

You are right I don't see any reason for using Tor or VPN to gamble, except they are being restricted from accessing the site but however if they are restricted and they used Tor or VPN definitely the gambling site would asked for their kyc and if noticed the country is restricted do you think they would be allowed to have their funds withdrawn from the gambling site? It is no no because they have violated the ToS and such account could likely face immediate closure.

If they come from restricted country, they must not trying to abuse the system using Tor browser or VPN. That can give them a problem getting ban from the casino if casino know about that which they can easily know.
When casino ask them to do KYC, that will be the time for casino to know they are from the restricted country and they will not approve them as verified members. From this, casino will not allow those people to access the casino and casino will strictly prohibit them.
But usually, those people will still trying to access the casino because they want to feel for playing gambling and win some money.

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Quote from: bitbollo on October 06, 2024, 03:26:22 AM

It is allowed by ToS of casino or bookmakers? Much probably not! More over why trying to find "privacy" in a site that can force users to get a... KYC?
if this was not enough, what is the real advantage of this approach? Why risk to get banned and lose all winnings?

Most provably not since usually a KYC compliance casino writes in their TOS that its forbidden to use anything that can bypass restriction so provably that using TOR is also not been allowed. So much really better not take a risk and just gamble on safer side since it will give us peace of mind rather than taking the risk then wait for our account to get flagged.

There's no advantage for doing this since this will just create an issue with the gambler use this. Maybe they are just curious to see big wins on the casino and they try to bypass the restriction to try if they could also hit big gains. But for sure if they experience that for sure they might really lose all their winnings since certain verification will provably happen and to bad for them if they caught up using tools to bypass restrictions since most likely they would end up getting banned in the casino.

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I don't think there's an online casino allow to use Tor, I had never read a casino mention their onion address.

Gambling require fast internet connection and slick website, many gamblers were complain if they lost internet connection while gambling and it make them think the casino is cheating. Because they make an assumption if the casino may change the results and make them to not lose.

Quote from: Smartprofit on October 04, 2024, 12:56:57 PM

As far as I know, there are online casinos that are OK with using the TOR browser, but have a bad attitude towards using VPN.

Give me few example of online casinos that allow Tor in this forum.

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It is allowed by ToS of casino or bookmakers? Much probably not! More over why trying to find "privacy" in a site that can force users to get a... KYC?
if this was not enough, what is the real advantage of this approach? Why risk to get banned and lose all winnings?

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on October 05, 2024, 10:00:34 AM

I still prefer privacy education when it is exchanges for trading and most especially wallets for holding and keeping of coins purposes. But if it is gambling sites, just little amount of money is need for gambling. Not that you will have all your savings on the gambling site.

The reason I think many people will want to use Tor or VPN for gambling site will most likely be because of restrictions and not privacy. Also, I will advice people to avoid using Tor and even VPN for anything that is centralized and not only gambling sites.

You are right I don't see any reason for using Tor or VPN to gamble, except they are being restricted from accessing the site but however if they are restricted and they used Tor or VPN definitely the gambling site would asked for their kyc and if noticed the country is restricted do you think they would be allowed to have their funds withdrawn from the gambling site? It is no no because they have violated the ToS and such account could likely face immediate closure.

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Why would you want to use TOR though? You'd be hogging up the network with traffic that doesn't need to be scrambled that much.
Just go through a VPN. There are plenty that can go undetectable in most countries.

The fact that VPNs are more centralized means that they're faster and quicker to sync also. TOR is like a public resource of last resort. Some services can absolutely not be hosted on the clearnet like certain markets and forums. I'd understand you using TOR if you wanted to connect there. But it's pointless to use TOR for casinos because you'd be taking bandwidth that someone else might need for their free speech.

When even the Chinese can find affordable VPNs to access the regular internet, I'm sure there will be good enough VPNs for most casinos as well.
And on the other hand too, casinos will probably have cloudflare which outright blocks TOR. Most don't seem to care about that kind of traffic, but in any case welcome VPNs.

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Quote from: _act_ on October 05, 2024, 01:31:09 AM

Quote from: jcojci on October 04, 2024, 09:12:55 PM

I guess some casinos will not have a problem when their user using Tor browser but to know for sure, you can ask to support system on each casino.

You can read about it on the gambling site terms of service. If you have been verified on the gambling site, you should have no problem using VPN if the gambling site does not against or mention anything about the use of VPN on their site. But if you have not been verified, you may be asked for verification at anytime in a way that all your coins will be seized on the gambling site especially if you have not been verified before.

I am not too often read about the gambling site's ToS but I will do that next time to make sure that I understand their rules. I hope some casinos will not seized my funds if I am not yet verify my account because I just want to know and take a look in my dashboard account. I will verify myself later when I can feel comfortable with the casino because comfortable is the important thing for me to stay to the casino. But I will make sure by asking support system if the casino allow using VPN or Tor browser first before I deposit and verify myself.

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Quote from: Crypto Library on October 04, 2024, 12:44:33 PM

Actually, I was wondering whether that is it really possible to have full enjoyment on the Tor browser with the crypto casino or do anyone here a real experienced on tor friendly casino or if is there any list of tor-friendly casino's? Kindly share your experience-

It's not a good idea to use a casino on Tor and I'm pretty sure that most casinos might not allow Tor users to play on their sites. I've personally never even tried Tor on any casino but actually there's chance that it might work on some casinos, but in most cases it won't work.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on October 05, 2024, 10:00:34 AM

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The reason I think many people will want to use Tor or VPN for gambling site will most likely be because of restrictions and not privacy. Also, I will advice people to avoid using Tor and even VPN for anything that is centralized and not only gambling sites.

I also experienced a lot of restrictions for each casino site and I used a VPN to be able to access some of the casino sites I followed.
But I also play just for fun, not to make a lot of profit from the casino.

Tor may be more about using the free version but I used a premium VPN to be able to access the gambling sites I wanted to access.
and The use of a crypto wallet at the casino I choose also makes it easier for me to make transactions, and no KYC is applied with a small withdrawal amount.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on October 05, 2024, 10:00:34 AM

Quote from: Findingnemo on October 05, 2024, 09:39:11 AM

I will not recommend using TOR for gambling casino even though they have no terms that's against it they have a strict policy of one account per IP so while using TOR you will jump from different users and if someone else accessed the site the casino with the same location then you could be in real danger of being accused for multi account and it's the same risks of using free VPN. If you want privacy then buy premium and have a dedicated IP for yourself that also doesn't violate the casino terms means no risks involved.

I have not even seen a reason people should use Tor or VPN for gambling. What crypto users will make use of crypto more about cryptocurrencies are wallets and exchanges.

I still prefer privacy education when it is exchanges for trading and most especially wallets for holding and keeping of coins purposes. But if it is gambling sites, just little amount of money is need for gambling. Not that you will have all your savings on the gambling site.

The reason I think many people will want to use Tor or VPN for gambling site will most likely be because of restrictions and not privacy. Also, I will advice people to avoid using Tor and even VPN for anything that is centralized and not only gambling sites.

We can't really say for sure whether they are doing it for privacy or to bypass the restrictions but it's should not be about restrictions because sooner or later the casino is gonna ask for KYC and at that time if the user failed to submit valid proof or the casino find out they're from restricted area then their account will be terminated with the funds in it.

But the reason could be we don't want to give all the logs to our ISP so masking is not bad either but it doesn't have to violate the terms of the platform or else we are gonna be affected at the end.

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