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legendary
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I live in a country that prohibits gambling which means there is never a regulation that requires a gambler to pay taxes, but quite a lot of people in my country are involved in gambling especially in online casinos because of the freedom in terms of accessibility, even though the government prohibits various sites from operating in my country but that is not a problem for us because VPN can still be used as one of the options to still be able to get involved in gambling.
On the other hand, for the tax issue that is applied when a country legalizes gambling, in my opinion, in the end, many people there still don't really like the regulation, especially when we talk about addicted gamblers whose main priority is to get a lot of money, they will never like losing money even if it is to pay taxes, although there may be some who obey the rules but I am sure the majority of them hide information that they have managed to achieve a number of wins.
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I have encountered so many people gambling online who are from countries where gambling is alledgedly outlawed, so much so it gives me the impression the ban on gambling is not even being enforced in those nations.
Online casinos + VPN help gamblers to solve such a problem. I think that it is often depends on casino. Some casino reject even to choose such countries during the registration. In such casinos gamblers use fake data and can have problems with KYC. But some other casinos have no any restrictions for such gamblers. I don`t know why it is so but i don`t think that some government servicemen ask casinos to ban their countries.
legendary
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I think that it can be really silly idea to pay taxes on gambling if it is prohibited Smiley ...

If gambling is prohibited in the country, then even if you really want to, you will not be able to pay the tax in this case. Anyway, voluntary payment of a tax cannot ensure its guaranteed fulfillment, unless it is withdrawn when the winnings are issued/withdrawn.

It is a very curious case, because if one really wanted, one could actually pay taxes for gambling winnings in a country where gambling is illegal, though it would require to lie to the government about the source of those earnings (which is illegal itself) but I think someone could get away with it if there is not much scrutiny, still it would be indeed silly for someone to pay them in that way.

I have encountered so many people gambling online who are from countries where gambling is alledgedly outlawed, so much so it gives me the impression the ban on gambling is not even being enforced in those nations.



As for myself, I don't have to pay taxes on my gambling earnings as I am at a net loss this past year.
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I never thought that any player would have to pay tax on their winnings, including in countries that legalize gambling for their people. I think that even in countries that legalize gambling, this shouldn't happen, because paying taxes is the responsibility of the company alone, with players or visitors not having to pay taxes, but with a government that wants to tax more, maybe that makes sense even though it sounds ridiculous.

With a country that prohibits gambling, there must be a large part of the community who gamble but in secret, especially now that there are so many online casinos operating, of course this opens up greater opportunities for those who want to gamble even though it is prohibited in their country.
You can say that but many countries also imposing tax for their citizen especially for those who receive salary. The government impose tax to develop their country because they say that tax will be used to build more good things in their country. But unfortunately, not many governments serious with that because we know many government officials corrupt the tax money for their own interest.

So that is why we also hear that many citizen avoids to pay the tax because they know that the tax money is not use for develop their country. It is why the government becomes more strictly for their citizen but I don't know why the government don't impose a high taxes for the richer people. They chase the middle people classes to pay the tax and educate them to pay at the right time because if not, they will get fine.

But still, it was a culture shock for me because maybe in my country gambling is illegal so in the end I never heard when some things including gambling have to pay taxes to the government from the players.

Speaking of taxes, what you said is true but in the end it is also not an option because the government will continue to try to urge its people to remain submissive so that when taxes are not paid then there are definitely some things that will ultimately make it difficult for those who do not pay taxes so that in the end inevitably we have to follow the rules they have emphasized in terms of regulations when we really want to live comfortably in the area they have claimed and controlled as their territory.
legendary
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Is there anyone who actually wants to pay taxes though? Lol

I mean I understand that paying taxes is a will of a good citizen but let’s be honest if it wasn’t required, we wouldn’t be paying taxes at all? Why share your wins for the government to keep right? In a case that gambling is not allowed then and you still want to do your part as a citizen then you are just going to have to file it as an income tax.

You said it like it is, nobody likes to pay taxes, in countries that are really corrupt, they do things like evade taxes because nobody wants to help corrupt governments, because it has already happened a lot, for example, as is my country, in that sense paying taxes is not only a duty, it is an obligation, but that feeling is born when things really work, in casinos, in games of chance I am a supporter that nothing should be paid, because it is adult fun, with the house advantage you already pay a lot there, why pay taxes for that? Well, it is something that at least I do not see the point in, but for the situation mentioned above.
legendary
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- the other case is Saudi Arabia, where gambling is prohibited but if you go out of the country and gamble you will still be taxed on financial gains if caught, this is usually because there are a lot of horse racing enthusiasts there that travel around just for that

In this case, you will independently admit that you played gambling, which is classified as a serious crime under the laws of Saudi Arabia and for which a prison sentence is provided. In this case, the best solution is to remain silent. If he cannot remain silent, be prepared for the fact that upon arrival in Saudi Arabia he may be subjected to criminal prosecution.
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If gambling is prohibited in the country, then even if you really want to, you will not be able to pay the tax in this case.

Actually, there are cases like this:
- China, you can't gamble as a citizen in China, you are free to gamble in Macau, but you will be taxed for your winning on the mainland
- the other case is Saudi Arabia, where gambling is prohibited but if you go out of the country and gamble you will still be taxed on financial gains if caught, this is usually because there are a lot of horse racing enthusiasts there that travel around just for that

It's a bit like the IRS  guide on taxation for drug dealers.  Grin
https://www.irs.gov/publications/p17
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Illegal activities. Income from illegal activities, such as money from dealing illegal drugs, must be included in your income on Schedule 1 (Form 1040), line 8z, or on Schedule C (Form 1040) if from your self-employment activity.
legendary
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I am in a country that prohibits gambling or does not really legalize gambling activities which means there is no tax at all but when you are caught involved in gambling then you will be immediately arrested and punished according to the applicable law, but yes as we know that a gambler especially me always has a way so that I can still realize my gambling habit, and online casinos really help me to stay involved in gambling.

So I don't know much about the tax payment scenario or what percentage of the amount must be paid to the government when a gambler wins when their country legalizes gambling, but I am sure that most of us are the same that we will not really like the name of tax, meaning even though you are in a country that legalizes gambling but I am sure more of you break the rules to pay the tax.
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I think that it can be really silly idea to pay taxes on gambling if it is prohibited Smiley ...

If gambling is prohibited in the country, then even if you really want to, you will not be able to pay the tax in this case. Anyway, voluntary payment of a tax cannot ensure its guaranteed fulfillment, unless it is withdrawn when the winnings are issued/withdrawn.

If gambling is prohibited in a country yet people are paying taxes voluntary then why not legalize it to generate more revenue.
Yes, I get that in particularly that country, gambling is against their religion but in that case, even if someone is paying voluntary taxes then it won't make gambling legal.
So the taxes paid are in vain and it would be better off to not pay tax at all.
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Just curious since there are countries where gambling winnings are taxable... Those who have experience paying taxes on gambling winnings, how much do you typically pay? Also, is there a way to avoid these taxes without getting into trouble? If you don’t mind, please share your insights and mention the country you’re in if possible.
Winning from gambling is considered a form of income, and the tax is imposed. Well, that is what a read on the law in our country is. But I'd never experienced that in online casinos because the amount you win will also be the amount you receive. But I'm sure in offline casinos, especially when there is government participation, certainly, the winners will pay for it. 
The way I see to avoid taxes is to gamble online. The government never cares about us gamblers; they only track sites for their taxes. 

I already tried playing on IRL casino but still the payout is 1:1 without any tax. I think some gambling games has an automatic tax deduction like the national lottery while the rest of gambling profit should filed voluntarily in my country.

The IRS counterpart on my country is not that notorious in tracking taxes of normal citizens since they only focus on rich people and companies while the rest of the individual just tax on salary not on the other source of profit that is not regulated.

I believe in US everyone is obligated to pay taxes even gambling profit since tax evasion out there is a serious crime with sever penalty.
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Just curious since there are countries where gambling winnings are taxable... Those who have experience paying taxes on gambling winnings, how much do you typically pay? Also, is there a way to avoid these taxes without getting into trouble? If you don’t mind, please share your insights and mention the country you’re in if possible.
Winning from gambling is considered a form of income, and the tax is imposed. Well, that is what a read on the law in our country is. But I'd never experienced that in online casinos because the amount you win will also be the amount you receive. But I'm sure in offline casinos, especially when there is government participation, certainly, the winners will pay for it. 
The way I see to avoid taxes is to gamble online. The government never cares about us gamblers; they only track sites for their taxes. 
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I think that it can be really silly idea to pay taxes on gambling if it is prohibited Smiley ...

If gambling is prohibited in the country, then even if you really want to, you will not be able to pay the tax in this case. Anyway, voluntary payment of a tax cannot ensure its guaranteed fulfillment, unless it is withdrawn when the winnings are issued/withdrawn.
I wasn`t in such situation, so i can`t agree or disagree, but i think it is possible if tax serviceman asks you questions about your declaration (for example).
In my country the main part of taxes are paid automatically by banks, casinos, employers. I think that i can pay taxes manually only if i have some cash income. But even in such situation i have to get cash from the other private person, not organization.

PS. Even if casino doesn`t pay my taxes for me, they can send this information to tax service and i`ll get the sum i have to pay. But i haven`t such situations yet.
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Just curious since there are countries where gambling winnings are taxable... Those who have experience paying taxes on gambling winnings, how much do you typically pay? Also, is there a way to avoid these taxes without getting into trouble? If you don’t mind, please share your insights and mention the country you’re in if possible.
I believe this is always expected especially in countries like the United States crypto or crypto non-related gambling.
Here in our country, I believe the tax you can officially pay is the lottery that is government-owned and operated by our government.
Lottery winnings are automatic like that, once you claim your prize, the taxes are already deducted, so you get the net amount. The tax is pretty big, but it’s understandable given the huge jackpot. From what I know, the US is one of the countries where winnings are taxed, but here in our country, it seems like there are taxes, but they’re either not strictly enforced or lack clear guidelines. Generally, though, when you receive income, you’re required to pay taxes.

I was thinking that what if you keep losing and let's say you already have a lot of losses and when you win even few, you still need to pay for taxes  Cheesy
In a sense, it’s like the basis is net income, but since it’s winnings, losses aren’t taken into account.
legendary
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Just curious since there are countries where gambling winnings are taxable... Those who have experience paying taxes on gambling winnings, how much do you typically pay? Also, is there a way to avoid these taxes without getting into trouble? If you don’t mind, please share your insights and mention the country you’re in if possible.
I believe this is always expected especially in countries like the United States crypto or crypto non-related gambling.
Here in our country, I believe the tax you can officially pay is the lottery that is government-owned and operated by our government.

I was thinking that what if you keep losing and let's say you already have a lot of losses and when you win even few, you still need to pay for taxes  Cheesy
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I think I have heard one story about this but I forgot about every detail of it. The only thing I remember is he was trying to cash out some sort of amount and he was surprised that the bank was not letting him through because he did hit the amount where it should be taxed and the remaining balance is not sufficient to complete the transaction.

I don't know the story but I'm not surprised as most of us here. Banks work as they please and for sure won't risk anything regarding gambling funds. Probably the bank had some limitations regarding transactions from casino accounts and/ or the bets in this region are not pretaxed. You get funds from casino-related accounts, you need to catch the limit for being...taxed!
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In my case, I don't do it for a couple reasons. One is that crypto gambling sites are usually blocked in my country because they're unlicensed. Also, when I profit from gambling it's in the form of cryptocurrency and only turning cash to fiat money is recognized as a taxable event. As long as you turn your crypto into more crypto, you're not supposed to pay anything.

Also, it would be difficult to file a tax report saying that you profited from an activity that's frowned upon by the government. It's much better to claim your profit came from trading and holding cryptocurrency, so if I ever sell a significant amount, I won't mention gambling in my tax report at all.
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Just curious since there are countries where gambling winnings are taxable... Those who have experience paying taxes on gambling winnings, how much do you typically pay? Also, is there a way to avoid these taxes without getting into trouble? If you don’t mind, please share your insights and mention the country you’re in if possible.
I don't think that some countries consider such tax in their country, like my country I don't think we pay tax, tax is been pay from companies directly not sub companies such as branches of the company, another thing that I know very well is that government tax a gambling platform that is well known, but if the gambling platform that's not well know government will not disturb them..a winner of gambling doesn't have anything to pay with government, its the gambling company that pays all the taxable...so whatever I win will remain with me if I win gambling in my country.
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If you live in a country that taxes crypto winnings, then you have to pay your tax, people are not going to come here and openly tell you how to evade taxes, even if they are doing that. Mind you that tax evasion is a serious crime and you can go to jail for it, i know many gamblers are offended if they have to pay taxes on their winnings, because they can lose 9 out of 10 times, and that once that they win, they have to pay taxes on it, i guess it is what it is.
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I think that it can be really silly idea to pay taxes on gambling if it is prohibited Smiley ...
If gambling is prohibited in the country, then even if you really want to, you will not be able to pay the tax in this case. Anyway, voluntary payment of a tax cannot ensure its guaranteed fulfillment, unless it is withdrawn when the winnings are issued/withdrawn.
Is there anyone who actually wants to pay taxes though? Lol

I mean I understand that paying taxes is a will of a good citizen but let’s be honest if it wasn’t required, we wouldn’t be paying taxes at all? Why share your wins for the government to keep right? In a case that gambling is not allowed then and you still want to do your part as a citizen then you are just going to have to file it as an income tax.
Many people want to avoid paying taxes. Lol

It is not compulsory to pay tax because the government will not collect it.
If gambling is not allowed in the country then paying taxes will be a punishment for you, right? I mean then the government will consider you the one who broke the rules, including my own country gambling is prohibited so there is no need to pay taxes.
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Just curious since there are countries where gambling winnings are taxable... Those who have experience paying taxes on gambling winnings, how much do you typically pay? Also, is there a way to avoid these taxes without getting into trouble? If you don’t mind, please share your insights and mention the country you’re in if possible.
I think for those who are taxable, it is something like a business or personal income. So, undoubtedly you can hide the income from gambling (though only a few percent of people). And If anyone wants to pay the real then it is the best as income tax used to serve the country of his/her own.

I agree with you that these taxes are useful because they go towards developing the country, so it would be better not to avoid them and to adhere to them within the framework of integrity by declaring various gains and profits. But I wonder how anyone can hide these profits from the eyes of the authorities, especially the big profits. I do not think there is any way that can exempt the gambler from taxes except by not declaring these profits, but he will be forced to enter into the adventure of money laundering, which will cost him percentages that may exceed the taxes he wants to avoid. Even crypto profits must pass through legal financial channels to be converted into cash, and therefore their source must be proven.
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