All the hyip is trustworth, I mean when it's new and you invest small amount.
I prefer play blackjack and lost than invest to hyip.
Topic: Anyone know a trustworth and stable HYIP investement site? - page 4. (Read 5167 times)
Anybody tried this?
All sites promising high returns are, across-the-board, scams. There is only one that I know of which wasn't run as a scam, but they lost all their investor's money through carelessness anyway and are slowly trying to pay back the initial investment.
Any system that solicits small investments across the internet is almost certainly incapable of returning a profit to those investors.
I do have first-hand knowledge on this subject because I run an investment program using only my personal wealth and i do what HYIPs claim to do. I am not soliciting investment online, though that is a possibility in the distant future. I would expect that anyone who invests in my program (if I accept outside investment) will meet me in person, have all my contact information (phone, email, name, address; all of it), and would have a signed contract for the investment agreement.
A person running a legitimate program will not spend their time looking for investors. They will spend their time looking for insurance companies and financial auditors - which is exactly what I am trying to do. They care about securing funds, rather than acquiring them.
Any system that solicits small investments across the internet is almost certainly incapable of returning a profit to those investors.
I do have first-hand knowledge on this subject because I run an investment program using only my personal wealth and i do what HYIPs claim to do. I am not soliciting investment online, though that is a possibility in the distant future. I would expect that anyone who invests in my program (if I accept outside investment) will meet me in person, have all my contact information (phone, email, name, address; all of it), and would have a signed contract for the investment agreement.
A person running a legitimate program will not spend their time looking for investors. They will spend their time looking for insurance companies and financial auditors - which is exactly what I am trying to do. They care about securing funds, rather than acquiring them.
Its ponzi theres none trusted ponzi / hyip .
your only chance of getting your money back is if more people will "invest" after you. If you know that and still want to go ahead
If you know that and still go ahead, then you are knowingly cooperating with stealing money from other people so that you can get paid.
That one looks "trustworthy" inasmuch as they don't claim to be mining bitcoins, playing poker, trading bitcoins, mining oil, or "investing" the money in other nonsense, so they aren't completely lying.
But it's still a ponzi, know going in that they are going to take your money, and give it to people that "invested" before you, and your only chance of getting your money back is if more people will "invest" after you. If you know that and still want to go ahead, go for it, but don't be shocked or outraged if/when they run out of money and leave you holding the bag.
But it's still a ponzi, know going in that they are going to take your money, and give it to people that "invested" before you, and your only chance of getting your money back is if more people will "invest" after you. If you know that and still want to go ahead, go for it, but don't be shocked or outraged if/when they run out of money and leave you holding the bag.
the most simplistic explanation and example of a HYIP is bitgem...
its a hot potato
one person buys this 'potato' or 'gem' and holds it. it does nothing else but burns you, so you want to get rid of it. So you sell it for atleast the value you paid or with a small profit ontop.
the next person buys it and holds it. it does nothing else but burns them, so they... blah blah blah
i call them hot potato's, other people call them ponzi's, pass the parcel, 'rob peter to pay paul'
ponzi and 'rob peter to pay paul' are usually controlled and managed by a person. but the most simplified ponzi scam that is run by only code on a website is what i mentioned in the top line.
im not going to link any HYIP's direct as i hate HYIP's, i just mention it to show an example of it.
its a hot potato
one person buys this 'potato' or 'gem' and holds it. it does nothing else but burns you, so you want to get rid of it. So you sell it for atleast the value you paid or with a small profit ontop.
the next person buys it and holds it. it does nothing else but burns them, so they... blah blah blah
i call them hot potato's, other people call them ponzi's, pass the parcel, 'rob peter to pay paul'
ponzi and 'rob peter to pay paul' are usually controlled and managed by a person. but the most simplified ponzi scam that is run by only code on a website is what i mentioned in the top line.
im not going to link any HYIP's direct as i hate HYIP's, i just mention it to show an example of it.
LOL! That looks dodgy as fuck, the question you should be asking is, where are they getting their profits from? If they don't list it, don't give them their money or take a closer look and see where the source is.
In this case it's a pyramid type scheme which I have seen a lot around, they basically make money by people like you signing up and then referring people on the website, you'd honestly be better off investing in a gambling share if you want Bitcoins that badly, at least you know where the money is coming from.
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Solid Share Pro offer you a solid profit,2.4%-6% daily for you forever.3 level referral system:10-3-1%.
In this case it's a pyramid type scheme which I have seen a lot around, they basically make money by people like you signing up and then referring people on the website, you'd honestly be better off investing in a gambling share if you want Bitcoins that badly, at least you know where the money is coming from.
I looked at many sites,but dont know wich are scams
I think it's possible to run a Ponzi scheme without it being a scam. If you are honest about it being a Ponzi, then how is it a scam? If everyone knows up front that the last depositors lose out, then it's not a scam, it's more like a game.
Exponential growth is baked in to the definition of how Ponzi schemes work: each time anyone deposits, the scheme's assets grow, but their liablilities grow fast, making them less and less solvent with each deposiy. So they can't be stable.
In summary: it's possible to find trustworthy Ponzis, but not to find stable ones.
Nothing in life is for free
Well, that's certainly interesting.
Any word on how they are doing with it?
Just curious.
In case you didn't notice, "Bitcoinbikers" is the owner of that ponzi.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-bitcoin-open-ponzi-game-with-150-hourly-payouts-684082
Well, that's certainly interesting.
Any word on how they are doing with it?
Just curious.
I'm sorry.
I should have written MoneyMakerGroup.
Mea Culpa!
I should have written MoneyMakerGroup.
Mea Culpa!
Took a look at about a half a dozen of the HYIP listed there. Every one of them looks like a ponzi to me.
Yeah, a shitload of them are for sure!
Easy way to make a living I guess if you could live with yourself doing that sort of thing.
I couldn't.
I'm sorry.
I should have written MoneyMakerGroup.
Mea Culpa!
I should have written MoneyMakerGroup.
Mea Culpa!
Took a look at about a half a dozen of the HYIP listed there. Every one of them looks like a ponzi to me.
I'm sorry.
I should have written MoneyMakerGroup.
Mea Culpa!
I should have written MoneyMakerGroup.
Mea Culpa!
I looked at many sites,but dont know wich are scams
They all are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program
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A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors.
There is no such thing as a HYIP that isn't a scam.
Not necessarily, some are just incredibly risky.
Any logical explanation of how a system can survive by paying investors with its own investor's money ? The return liability will only increase with time leading to a collapse.
Not all HYIPs are Ponzis but all Ponzis are HYIPs.
Any example of HYIP that is not a ponzi ? Please dont say MLM ...those are NOT HYIP.
Take a look around at MoneyMakers.
Searched Google... these are the top 3....
1. http://www.billboard.com/articles/list/5930326/music-s-top-40-money-makers-2014-the-rich-list
2. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=money+maker
3. http://www.beebsandhermoneymakers.com/
I looked at many sites,but dont know wich are scams
They all are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program
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A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors.
There is no such thing as a HYIP that isn't a scam.
Not necessarily, some are just incredibly risky.
Any logical explanation of how a system can survive by paying investors with its own investor's money ? The return liability will only increase with time leading to a collapse.
Not all HYIPs are Ponzis but all Ponzis are HYIPs.
Any example of HYIP that is not a ponzi ? Please dont say MLM ...those are NOT HYIP.
Take a look around at MoneyMakers.
I looked at many sites,but dont know wich are scams
They all are.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-yield_investment_program
Quote
A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scam that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors.
There is no such thing as a HYIP that isn't a scam.
Not necessarily, some are just incredibly risky.
Any logical explanation of how a system can survive by paying investors with its own investor's money ? The return liability will only increase with time leading to a collapse.
Not all HYIPs are Ponzis but all Ponzis are HYIPs.
Any example of HYIP that is not a ponzi ? Please dont say MLM ...those are NOT HYIP.
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