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Topic: Anyone think Ron Paul could win 3% of the popular vote? (Read 1551 times)

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I'm pretty sure he would except most of his 'supporters who would actually vote for him' are probably in mental clinics and the like.

Ron Paul is basically a death association tool for the mainstream. He's a total loon who just happens to "believe in" some good ideas in addition to everything else. If RP really wanted to help the ideas he supposedly believes in, he'd sit quietly in the background and pay so someone more respectable could present those ideas.



What an atrocious post. You don't know the meaning of respect.

Dr. Ron Paul has a perfect voting record (for the good of the people) in 20 years as a congressman, unlike like the lunatic warmonger binge spender dictators that occupy the US government right now. Before 2008, hardly anyone had heard of Barack Hussein Obama. He's not respectable, he hasn't done a damn thing, unless you count him being gifted with the presidency in one hand and the nobel peace prize in the other.


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A vote for Paul robs Johnson of his vote. I hope that people vote for Johnson instead because it would give the Libertarian candidate a greater chance of being in the debate in 2016.
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Is it that truth is spoken and appeal is made to reason that you think is lunacy? 

Or perhaps you are deluded enough to think his appeal to allow competitive currencies would threaten your position?   

Give us something more please Smiley     

No. It's his manner that makes him come off as crazy. Listen to anything where RP is speaking live... half the time he sounds perfectly sane and the other half he sounds like he's senile. That's the reason people think he's crazy, because of the 'drift off' and him losing his train of thought.




I also would like an example.  Perhaps you are referring to the fact that he actually thinks and answers questions rather than simply reading from a script? 

As the most popular political speaker of our generation based on number of people who go to hear him speak, you are in a minority with this opinion.  That doesn't make you wrong of course, I'm still interested to hear what you mean exactly. 


 

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No. There is no way for him to get 3% on write-ins alone for which he did not ask. Among his supporters: a few will write in his name, some are going to vote for Romney, some will not vote at all, most will vote for Gary Johnson. If Gary Johnson is serious about a 2016 run, HE NEEDS 5% of the popular vote this year.

I met Jim Gray, he said 5% is the goal because that will give them Federal matching funds and ballot access that would effectively establish the Libertarian Party as a serious contender for the forseeable future, even after Johnson. That is why they are working so hard on getting non-Libertarians to vote for him, because it could potentially end the two-party system or bring a major re-alignment era. That is why I am trying to convince the voters in my solidly democratic district in a solidly republican state to vote for Gary Johnson. It is not a "waste of a vote" if we can get above 5%.

Jim Gray: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EhrIZpdVhs
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No. There is no way for him to get 3% on write-ins alone for which he did not ask. Among his supporters: a few will write in his name, some are going to vote for Romney, some will not vote at all, most will vote for Gary Johnson. If Gary Johnson is serious about a 2016 run, HE NEEDS 5% of the popular vote this year.

I met Jim Gray, he said 5% is the goal because that will give them Federal matching funds and ballot access that would effectively establish the Libertarian Party as a serious contender for the forseeable future, even after Johnson. That is why they are working so hard on getting non-Libertarians to vote for him, because it could potentially end the two-party system or bring a major re-alignment era. That is why I am trying to convince the voters in my solidly democratic district in a solidly republican state to vote for Gary Johnson. It is not a "waste of a vote" if we can get above 5%.
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so many posts and no new bets. It doesn't seem from the things you say that anyone's unsure of the outcome
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Is it that truth is spoken and appeal is made to reason that you think is lunacy? 

Or perhaps you are deluded enough to think his appeal to allow competitive currencies would threaten your position?   

Give us something more please Smiley     

No. It's his manner that makes him come off as crazy. Listen to anything where RP is speaking live... half the time he sounds perfectly sane and the other half he sounds like he's senile. That's the reason people think he's crazy, because of the 'drift off' and him losing his train of thought.

I've never heard this happen. Could you provide a link to a Youtube or other video where it does?
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Is it that truth is spoken and appeal is made to reason that you think is lunacy? 

Or perhaps you are deluded enough to think his appeal to allow competitive currencies would threaten your position?   

Give us something more please Smiley     

No. It's his manner that makes him come off as crazy. Listen to anything where RP is speaking live... half the time he sounds perfectly sane and the other half he sounds like he's senile. That's the reason people think he's crazy, because of the 'drift off' and him losing his train of thought.

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I think RP is a non-starter. He's just too crazy, too old and too out of touch with the modern age.

I actually feel bad about him pushing some good ideas (like flat tax) because it tends to scare the moderates to the point that they dislike the idea...

IMO RP supporters need to get over it, write him letters, convince him to fund an articulate younger candidate that shares the core values but someone who'll be able to speak without sounding like a loon.



Is it that truth is spoken and appeal is made to reason that you think is lunacy? 

Or perhaps you are deluded enough to think his appeal to allow competitive currencies would threaten your position?   

Give us something more please Smiley     
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I think RP is a non-starter. He's just too crazy, too old and too out of touch with the modern age.

I actually feel bad about him pushing some good ideas (like flat tax) because it tends to scare the moderates to the point that they dislike the idea...

IMO RP supporters need to get over it, write him letters, convince him to fund an articulate younger candidate that shares the core values but someone who'll be able to speak without sounding like a loon.


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He has not endorsed any other party or anyone. A lot of his supporters and general people fed up with the system may write him in

If you do you could make a bit of change on this bet:

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=796

I'm not sure I understand this bet.  I mean, everybody knows RP is the most popular politician of our generation, so is the bet about whether the news houses are aloud to speak his name aloud on election day?  Seeing as they have been clear they won't speak his name, as a popular candidate is not desirable, I could see why the votes are more in the red on this one.

   

assumes 3% of popular votes counted
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He has not endorsed any other party or anyone. A lot of his supporters and general people fed up with the system may write him in

If you do you could make a bit of change on this bet:

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=796

I'm not sure I understand this bet.  I mean, everybody knows RP is the most popular politician of our generation, so is the bet about whether the news houses are aloud to speak his name aloud on election day?  Seeing as they have been clear they won't speak his name, as a popular candidate is not desirable, I could see why the votes are more in the red on this one.

   
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I'm turning to agree. Moving closer to pledge this will be my last election I vote for President until more than a donkey and an elephant are allowed in the debates
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Gary Johnson!
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I'm pretty sure he would except most of his 'supporters who would actually vote for him' are probably in mental clinics and the like.

Ron Paul is basically a death association tool for the mainstream. He's a total loon who just happens to "believe in" some good ideas in addition to everything else. If RP really wanted to help the ideas he supposedly believes in, he'd sit quietly in the background and pay so someone more respectable could present those ideas.

What aspects of Dr. Paul's personality, behavior, or hell, even voting record indicate mental instability?

None, the above is a person subject to huffpost and democracyNOW propaganda. I suppose it is not insane to disagree with auditing the fed, reducing police state activity, etc since the world is a complicated place. But Ron Paul has definitely shown no signs of insanity. Maybe idealism, for better or worse, but not insanity.
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California is very populus, and Texas is his home state.

And Ron Paul has such a following; people that work in the elections may definitely want to count people who write his name.
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I'm pretty sure he would except most of his 'supporters who would actually vote for him' are probably in mental clinics and the like.

Ron Paul is basically a death association tool for the mainstream. He's a total loon who just happens to "believe in" some good ideas in addition to everything else. If RP really wanted to help the ideas he supposedly believes in, he'd sit quietly in the background and pay so someone more respectable could present those ideas.

What aspects of Dr. Paul's personality, behavior, or hell, even voting record indicate mental instability?
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