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Quote from: just_Alice on August 13, 2021, 08:57:03 PM

That’s more difficult than it sounds Cheesy

Sure. But not impossible, buddy.
What he said is correct, even it is difficult to do.

Quote from: just_Alice on August 13, 2021, 08:57:03 PM

That’s why I’d suggest people not do gambling “on a daily basis” at all.

You can suggest people, but people have their own choices. A few people may play gambling daily, I have a friend that mostly plays gambling every day. You can think it is a rare case, in fact it is real.

Quote from: just_Alice on August 13, 2021, 08:57:03 PM

The best option here is prevention. I don’t think anyone should gamble daily, or schedule it, e.g. once every 3 days.

Each gambler has their own style of gambling. A few people gamble daily, some play weekly, and others may play without a schedule. So, the time to spend for each gambler may be varied or different. I think there is no problem with this matter. You can choose which one suits you.

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Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on August 14, 2021, 03:27:43 AM

Not knowing the time and the amount you wager or you bet is an indication of a addiction to me since you are not aware of what that simple thing and you are too focused in gambling soon you might even know that you already lost a big amount of money and probably you will realize that you can't even live without gambling.

Everything that cost you so much can be also called addiction. What I mean with so much are paying attention to the things that you supposed to not doing that thing for such a long hours like gambling because I do think that we should still have a self control and limitation in everything that we do especially in a thing that we were going to spend our time, second of course the amount of money that you spent. Gambling has a purpose but it depends on the person perspective about it, some may take it as an entertainment and some take it a serious thing, so yeah anything like excess is a gambling.

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Quote from: VanityWallets2015 on August 14, 2021, 03:27:43 AM

Not knowing the time and the amount you wager or you bet is an indication of a addiction to me since you are not aware of what that simple thing and you are too focused in gambling soon you might even know that you already lost a big amount of money and probably you will realize that you can't even live without gambling.

This were everything starts, some didn't know it yet unless their love one's already told them about it or when their property or relationship already been broke. Only few wil realize the addiction not until they will find another activities to keep them away on it. If there will be a sort of people who really takes seriously managing their time and money then starting gambling will never have this bad interpretation.

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Exactly.
Not many gamblers are aware of this.
much only concerned about what and how much they will earn probably.
But once again, this is still "probably", which means that he may lose and also may win.
That is why it is better to make ourselves manage with that limitation, both for the funds and also emotions.

Quote from: Desmong on July 24, 2021, 12:32:34 PM

Some people could bet without even knowing the amount of time and money they have invested in gambling which could look obvious and call for estimation. I gamble a lot and sometimes I don't even know if it's becoming excess not.

This may be because of gambling addiction. Once people are in this situation, they will not be aware that they are all in too much or even excessing money to gambling

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Quote from: macson on August 12, 2021, 06:16:09 PM

manage your gambling time and funds and stop immediately after losing, do not borrow money to continue your gambling.

This is a good attitude to apply when we gamble on a daily basis. If in one day all funds for gambling are over, just stop it immediately. Just come back again to gamble tomorrow. There is no need to force continuing gambling by using other funds or even take a loan from our family members or close friends. It will harm us, loaning is a bad idea for sure.

That’s more difficult than it sounds Cheesy

That’s why I’d suggest people not do gambling “on a daily basis” at all. When you do something daily it becomes a habit, and habits are hard to let go of (paradoxically, even harder for better educated and disciplined people, that’s why such people are also in the risk group, not only reckless, as many believe). And habits grow into addiction.

The best option here is prevention. I don’t think anyone should gamble daily, or schedule it, e.g. once every 3 days. Just do it whenever you feel like it, sometimes daily, sometimes a week-long break. In such a case, the probability of developing an addiction is significantly reduced.

I strongly agree with you.

The best option is prevention, because gambling is much dangerous than it looks. Others says it's fun but it's not, once you bit the bait, there's only high chance of getting addicted rather than quitting instantly after you feel agitated losing your money. That's why it's better not to test your curiosity towards gambling because it might you to a rabbit hole where you won't be able to get out because of your addiction.

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Easier said than done. That is what I can say with that "manage your gambling time and funds".

This is the most difficult problem of gambling addicts.
They are told many times by their parents or relatives - hey! let's finish your games, stop spending family money ... "And such a person cannot cope with himself and stop playing. But his relatives simply do not understand that it is almost impossible for him to quit playing, because relatives are often not so strong addicted to gambling and think it's easy. Such situations often become a source of family conflicts and can even lead to tragic consequences. Sometimes the efforts of relatives to make the gambler get distracted - go in for sports, read books, finally watch movies, etc., do not help at all. I must say that being distracted from the game, the gambler does not feel well, but only waits for the film to end in order to run back to the game table.
Nobody really knows how to humanely solve this problem.

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Quote from: macson on August 12, 2021, 06:16:09 PM

manage your gambling time and funds and stop immediately after losing, do not borrow money to continue your gambling.

This is a good attitude to apply when we gamble on a daily basis. If in one day all funds for gambling are over, just stop it immediately. Just come back again to gamble tomorrow. There is no need to force continuing gambling by using other funds or even take a loan from our family members or close friends. It will harm us, loaning is a bad idea for sure.

Easier said than done. That is what I can say with that "manage your gambling time and funds".

That is a good attitude indeed but it is often not used by most of the gamblers because of the fact that they can't control themselves especially when they are winning. Winning and losing can change your gambling habits depending on the situation. One day you might win and because of that you might become greedy and will gamble more or on the other hand, one day you might lose and because you can't control yourself you will do anything just to recover your losses.

There is nothing wrong with borrowing money with your relatives as long as you know how to pay it. What's wrong is that you are borrowing huge amounts of money and yet you can't pay it.

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In a person subject to gambling addiction, it is as if a demon and an angel are fighting all the time. Well, the demon or Satan says: "play, play more, more ...", the angel says: "change your mind, stop ... You will lose everything ... You will regret ..". And what should such a person do if such a struggle is going on in his brain all the time. So after all it is quite possible to go crazy. Here, of course, first of all, it all depends on the willpower to say "no" to Satan! Unfortunately, not everyone has such willpower. And then the person turns into a gambling addict and he should already be treated, because this is already a mental illness. In some countries (for example in the UK) there are even rehabilitation centers for such patients.

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Not knowing the time and the amount you wager or you bet is an indication of a addiction to me since you are not aware of what that simple thing and you are too focused in gambling soon you might even know that you already lost a big amount of money and probably you will realize that you can't even live without gambling.

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Quote from: Desmong on July 24, 2021, 12:32:34 PM

I have seen people gambling with positive vibes of them winning at all costs. I could remember when I started gambling, I was always optimistic of winning high bets that will later cool my mind and cover all my accumulated loses. I believe the same thing happens to other people making them to bet more, becoming addicted to gambling.

Some people could bet without even knowing the amount of time and money they have invested in gambling which could look obvious and call for estimation. I gamble a lot and sometimes I don't even know if it's becoming excess not.

Anything like excess gambling?

your life, your control you have to remember that. If you can't control your gambling passion, it will be very difficult for you to win. when you eat or drink too much, your body will be badly affected because of the effects of being excessive. manage your gambling time and funds and stop immediately after losing, do not borrow money to continue your gambling.

This is a very important factor, money must be owned, but in reality, things like this for some people are quite difficult to do because often the initial intention is like that, but after they lose and lose their money, the first thing they feel is not solving it. but instead add to the load because of their greed and lust.
sometimes things like this often happen not only for gambling addicts but some people have felt the same way

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I have watched several twitch streams of people gambling and some channels that I follow the guys are good at what they do and play for quite a long time and at the end of the day they don't always win but overall have remained profitable.

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Anything like excess gambling

Maybe yes maybe no, If you are going to gamble for a long time and not be profitable then we could say that's excess gambling which changes to chasing your losses but if you win most of your games that's never going to be excess gambling.

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Quote from: Qunenin on August 13, 2021, 05:51:32 PM

The question is why people spend excessive in gambling ? I think it is the greed. People know that if they are lucky they could make a lot of money in very les time so they put extra money in gambling to get rich more quickly. However they should realize that people lose more often than winning.

Unfortunately the greed in them, does not let them think that other scenario and when they lose their all money, they are just left crying.

Yes, greed will be with those who want to get more money from gambling. If they realize and see that will not always happening in gambling, they will not try hard, instead only playing gambling without any intention. But it seems that many people out there can win from gambling, which attracts them to try their luck. It will be okay if they start with control of themselves. Otherwise, they will not have a chance to manage their money and will only lose it in many gambling games. The greed will make them disappointed for some time, but that does not make them stop gambling because they always think that they will tell their luck to win some money next time.

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Quote from: macson on August 12, 2021, 06:16:09 PM

manage your gambling time and funds and stop immediately after losing, do not borrow money to continue your gambling.

This is a good attitude to apply when we gamble on a daily basis. If in one day all funds for gambling are over, just stop it immediately. Just come back again to gamble tomorrow. There is no need to force continuing gambling by using other funds or even take a loan from our family members or close friends. It will harm us, loaning is a bad idea for sure.

That’s more difficult than it sounds Cheesy

That’s why I’d suggest people not do gambling “on a daily basis” at all. When you do something daily it becomes a habit, and habits are hard to let go of (paradoxically, even harder for better educated and disciplined people, that’s why such people are also in the risk group, not only reckless, as many believe). And habits grow into addiction.

The best option here is prevention. I don’t think anyone should gamble daily, or schedule it, e.g. once every 3 days. Just do it whenever you feel like it, sometimes daily, sometimes a week-long break. In such a case, the probability of developing an addiction is significantly reduced.

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Quote from: macson on August 12, 2021, 06:16:09 PM

If you can't control your gambling passion, it will be very difficult for you to win.

Although no big correlation between self-control and winning, controlling the excessive desire surely can make us gamble properly at least. Winning may have complex factors, not only self-control. However, self-control is one of the factors that play important roles.

Gambling is not just about fun and making money, its also a battle with yourself that you need to win always because you are the one controlling your emotion and making your own strategy so if you failed to do so, you might ended up addict in gambling, this can be a result of an excessive gambling, this is not good to continue playing.

You wont really be needing to battle yourself if you dont have that intent on the first place when it comes on making money because gambling cant really be considered to be a source of income which most people

been trying to seek or prove of,which in result that they do spend more than on the amount that they could afford to lose and theyve done it on excessive manner which in the end of the day there's nothing

that would be left into their pocket and this is where problem do rise on where they dont have something to spend out of their purses or wallets. Anything excessive is always bad.

The question is why people spend excessive in gambling ? I think it is the greed. People know that if they are lucky they could make a lot of money in very les time so they put extra money in gambling to get rich more quickly. However they should realize that people lose more often than winning.

Unfortunately the greed in them, does not let them think that other scenario and when they lose their all money, they are just left crying.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on August 13, 2021, 04:16:54 PM

Quote from: macson on August 12, 2021, 06:16:09 PM

If you can't control your gambling passion, it will be very difficult for you to win.

Although no big correlation between self-control and winning, controlling the excessive desire surely can make us gamble properly at least. Winning may have complex factors, not only self-control. However, self-control is one of the factors that play important roles.

Gambling is not just about fun and making money, its also a battle with yourself that you need to win always because you are the one controlling your emotion and making your own strategy so if you failed to do so, you might ended up addict in gambling, this can be a result of an excessive gambling, this is not good to continue playing.

You wont really be needing to battle yourself if you dont have that intent on the first place when it comes on making money because gambling cant really be considered to be a source of income which most people

been trying to seek or prove of,which in result that they do spend more than on the amount that they could afford to lose and theyve done it on excessive manner which in the end of the day there's nothing

that would be left into their pocket and this is where problem do rise on where they dont have something to spend out of their purses or wallets. Anything excessive is always bad.

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Quote from: macson on August 12, 2021, 06:16:09 PM

If you can't control your gambling passion, it will be very difficult for you to win.

Although no big correlation between self-control and winning, controlling the excessive desire surely can make us gamble properly at least. Winning may have complex factors, not only self-control. However, self-control is one of the factors that play important roles.

Quote from: macson on August 12, 2021, 06:16:09 PM

manage your gambling time and funds and stop immediately after losing, do not borrow money to continue your gambling.

This is a good attitude to apply when we gamble on a daily basis. If in one day all funds for gambling are over, just stop it immediately. Just come back again to gamble tomorrow. There is no need to force continuing gambling by using other funds or even take a loan from our family members or close friends. It will harm us, loaning is a bad idea for sure.

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Quote from: Desmong on July 24, 2021, 12:32:34 PM

I have seen people gambling with positive vibes of them winning at all costs. I could remember when I started gambling, I was always optimistic of winning high bets that will later cool my mind and cover all my accumulated loses. I believe the same thing happens to other people making them to bet more, becoming addicted to gambling.

Some people could bet without even knowing the amount of time and money they have invested in gambling which could look obvious and call for estimation. I gamble a lot and sometimes I don't even know if it's becoming excess not.

Anything like excess gambling?

your life, your control you have to remember that. If you can't control your gambling passion, it will be very difficult for you to win. when you eat or drink too much, your body will be badly affected because of the effects of being excessive. manage your gambling time and funds and stop immediately after losing, do not borrow money to continue your gambling.

My first thought is just the same: excessive is when you cannot control what you are doing, or at least have a good degree of control, and that is causing problems in your life. But on a second thought, I think that some people could actually go beyond what is reasonable and for their particular circumstances they do not feel adverse effects on their life - e.g. they have enough assets to cover the losses or do not have a family that depends on them. Still, they may be gambling excessively.

Excessive acts would really be always the result on having no good self control into things not only on gambling but also in other things as well on where it does need up some awareness about the risk behind.

You can deal with everything but of course it would really be needing some limit because everything which is excess would really be harmful into individual.It would mainly affect depending on situation or basis.

Gambling could be harmful if you do make yourself get addicted, not literally but in terms of finances which would really be put up in big risk.

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Quote from: macson on August 12, 2021, 06:16:09 PM

Quote from: Desmong on July 24, 2021, 12:32:34 PM

I have seen people gambling with positive vibes of them winning at all costs. I could remember when I started gambling, I was always optimistic of winning high bets that will later cool my mind and cover all my accumulated loses. I believe the same thing happens to other people making them to bet more, becoming addicted to gambling.

Some people could bet without even knowing the amount of time and money they have invested in gambling which could look obvious and call for estimation. I gamble a lot and sometimes I don't even know if it's becoming excess not.

Anything like excess gambling?

your life, your control you have to remember that. If you can't control your gambling passion, it will be very difficult for you to win. when you eat or drink too much, your body will be badly affected because of the effects of being excessive. manage your gambling time and funds and stop immediately after losing, do not borrow money to continue your gambling.

My first thought is just the same: excessive is when you cannot control what you are doing, or at least have a good degree of control, and that is causing problems in your life. But on a second thought, I think that some people could actually go beyond what is reasonable and for their particular circumstances they do not feel adverse effects on their life - e.g. they have enough assets to cover the losses or do not have a family that depends on them. Still, they may be gambling excessively.

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Yes, there is something called "excess gambling". This is when people keep on gambling and avoid their main responsibilities. Anything excess isn't good for anyone. You eat too much, its not good. You drink too much, its bad. You work too much. Not good for your health at all. In the same way, gamble too much even if you can afford, its going to affect your life negatively. You should keep this in mind, any kind of addiction can kill anyone.

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Quote from: Desmong on July 24, 2021, 12:32:34 PM

I have seen people gambling with positive vibes of them winning at all costs. I could remember when I started gambling, I was always optimistic of winning high bets that will later cool my mind and cover all my accumulated loses. I believe the same thing happens to other people making them to bet more, becoming addicted to gambling.

Some people could bet without even knowing the amount of time and money they have invested in gambling which could look obvious and call for estimation. I gamble a lot and sometimes I don't even know if it's becoming excess not.

Anything like excess gambling?

your life, your control you have to remember that. If you can't control your gambling passion, it will be very difficult for you to win. when you eat or drink too much, your body will be badly affected because of the effects of being excessive. manage your gambling time and funds and stop immediately after losing, do not borrow money to continue your gambling.

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