Topic: Apparently Chinese Mining Pools are sticking with Core! :) (Read 3739 times)
Good article. I see the AAron article just as FUD, so common in Bitcoin world. It means just one or two Chinese pools still supports Bitcoin Core, others Bitcoin Classic. Otherwise we would see more sources + pool statements supporting Bitcoin Classic they changed their support back to Bitcoin Core already... Anyway majority of Bitcoin business understands the change needs to be done, I saw only Ledger walet still supporting Bitcoin Core, not much impressive.
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Perhaps you just like to think that you are more informed than everyone else?
I don't hold it against them. It is hard to interpret the doublespeak coming out of the PRC when they preach of international cooperation, but pursue policies of international monopolization. Every state attempts to maintain rule of law over its citizens. The difference is if the laws of the state are codified by a representative government or by monopolists.
I see - so you do think that you are more informed than everyone else - glad we cleared that up.
As I am not as well informed as you I shall let you get back to informing people how uninformed they are without my distraction.
I am more informed than those who naively believe that the objective of communism is a socialist utopia or that the Chinese communist government doesn't run a state monopoly on all industries of any importance.
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Perhaps you just like to think that you are more informed than everyone else?
I don't hold it against them. It is hard to interpret the doublespeak coming out of the PRC when they preach of international cooperation, but pursue policies of international monopolization. Every state attempts to maintain rule of law over its citizens. The difference is if the laws of the state are codified by a representative government or by monopolists.
I see - so you do think that you are more informed than everyone else - glad we cleared that up.
As I am not as well informed as you I shall let you get back to informing people how uninformed they are without my further distraction.
They / You are either uninformed as to the objectives of a communist state or have a different political persuasion than I do. Imo, state monopoly is not desirable.
Well as I read your Wikipedia link and have not made a single comment about the "objectives of a communist" state it is rather hard to see how I (and the majority of western citizens as well let's not forget) are so uninformed.
I think that the objective of any state is power/control over its citizens and I would also assume that the majority of western citizens would also have a similar opinion (although unlike you I don't wish to put words in their mouth).
Perhaps you just like to think that you are more informed than everyone else?
I don't hold it against them. It is hard to interpret the doublespeak coming out of the PRC when they preach of international cooperation, but pursue policies of international monopolization. Every state attempts to maintain rule of law over its citizens. The difference is if the laws of the state are codified by a representative government or by monopolists.
They / You are either uninformed as to the objectives of a communist state or have a different political persuasion than I do. Imo, state monopoly is not desirable.
Well as I read your Wikipedia link and have not made a single comment about the "objectives of a communist" state it is rather hard to see how I (and the majority of western citizens as well let's not forget) are so uninformed.
I think that the objective of any state is power/control over its citizens and I would also assume that the majority of western citizens would also have a similar opinion (although unlike you I don't wish to put words in their mouth).
Perhaps you just like to think that you are more informed than everyone else?
It wouldn't be the first time that the majority is uninformed.
I don't see how uninformed got into it (thought you would just sneak that in did you)?
I don't presume that the majority of western citizens are so uninformed (although presumably you are accusing me of being uninformed along with everyone else).
They / You are either uninformed as to the objectives of a communist state or have a different political persuasion than I do. Imo, state monopoly is not desirable.
Everybody and family knows that all chinese and all chinese pools have signed a blood oath with Core... right? It's in their best interest.
It wouldn't be the first time that the majority is uninformed.
I don't see how uninformed got into it (thought you would just sneak that in did you)?
I don't presume that the majority of western citizens are so uninformed (although presumably you are accusing me of being uninformed along with everyone else).
My point is that it is naive to believe that the Chinese communist government doesn't control all aspects of mining within its political domain because the entire point of communism, by its very definition, is to establish a "state monopoly".
So as they control all aspects of computer manufacturing then the same thing applies to that and to clothing manufacturing, etc.
OMG - the world is controlled by a "state monopoly".
Imo, all industry located in the PRC is a state monopoly controlled by the government. You may not have an issue with this, but anyone concerned about the state of free enterprise in the world should. Monopoly is the antithesis to free enterprise.
That doesn't appear to be the view of the US or any other western government (and they are democracies then I assume it isn't the opinion of the majority of their citizens either).
So it appears to be yourself against the majority of western citizens in the world.
It wouldn't be the first time that the majority is uninformed.
My point is that it is naive to believe that the Chinese communist government doesn't control all aspects of mining within its political domain because the entire point of communism, by its very definition, is to establish a "state monopoly".
So as they control all aspects of computer manufacturing then the same thing applies to that and to clothing manufacturing, etc.
OMG - the world is controlled by a "state monopoly".
Imo, all industry located in the PRC is a state monopoly controlled by the government. You may not have an issue with this, but anyone concerned about the state of free enterprise in the world should. Monopoly is the antithesis to free enterprise.
That doesn't appear to be the view of the US or any other western government (and as they are democracies then I assume it isn't the opinion of the majority of their citizens either).
Free trade agreements being a very good example of the fact that western powers have no problem at all with it.
So it appears to be yourself against the majority of western citizens in the world.
My point is that it is naive to believe that the Chinese communist government doesn't control all aspects of mining within its political domain because the entire point of communism, by its very definition, is to establish a "state monopoly".
So as they control all aspects of computer manufacturing then the same thing applies to that and to clothing manufacturing, etc.
OMG - the world is controlled by a "state monopoly".
Imo, all industry located in the PRC is a state monopoly controlled by the government. You may not have an issue with this, but anyone concerned about the state of free enterprise in the world should. Monopoly is the antithesis to free enterprise.
You are free to have your own opinion on the true objectives of Mao's revolution. It is my opinion and that of Vladimir Lenin that the "socialist revolution" in the communist sense is to establish "nothing but state capitalist monopoly made to benefit the whole people."
Well - my opinion is actually based upon speaking to actual (and average) Chinese people who lived through the time of Mao (and none of which remember that time fondly) rather than on some Wikipedia pages.
And back to your whole point about this - if indeed the Chinese government is in control of Bitcoin because mining is a large/significant business operating in China then you must accept that the Chinese government is in control of Apple computers (and of computer hardware in general).
Hmm... wait - the Chinese make other things too don't they (like nearly all of the clothes people wear and toys they buy for their kids, etc.)
So again - what is your point? That the majority of manufacturing in the world today is under the control of the Chinese government?
where do you know about China? I think Mao is a great person, if in the present, he is notand, a lot of people do not understand the political, but also has many people to pursue freedom of speech and democracy, people around the world need democracy (I can't find a developed country is socialist) but you know, China is not a free speech countries，I don't want to talk too much about politics, I am a Chinese
He lives in China. lol
What? Bitcoin community has a lot of Chinese people, which is not surprising 
You are free to have your own opinion on the true objectives of Mao's revolution. It is my opinion and that of Vladimir Lenin that the "socialist revolution" in the communist sense is to establish "nothing but state capitalist monopoly made to benefit the whole people."
Well - my opinion is actually based upon speaking to actual (and average) Chinese people who lived through the time of Mao (and none of which remember that time fondly) rather than on some Wikipedia pages.
And back to your whole point about this - if indeed the Chinese government is in control of Bitcoin because mining is a large/significant business operating in China then you must accept that the Chinese government is in control of Apple computers (and of computer hardware in general).
Hmm... wait - the Chinese make other things too don't they (like nearly all of the clothes people wear and toys they buy for their kids, etc.)
So again - what is your point? That the majority of manufacturing in the world today is under the control of the Chinese government?
where do you know about China? I think Mao is a great person, if in the present, he is notand, a lot of people do not understand the political, but also has many people to pursue freedom of speech and democracy, people around the world need democracy (I can't find a developed country is socialist) but you know, China is not a free speech countries，I don't want to talk too much about politics, I am a Chinese
He lives in China. lol
You are free to have your own opinion on the true objectives of Mao's revolution. It is my opinion and that of Vladimir Lenin that the "socialist revolution" in the communist sense is to establish "nothing but state capitalist monopoly made to benefit the whole people."
Well - my opinion is actually based upon speaking to actual (and average) Chinese people who lived through the time of Mao (and none of which remember that time fondly) rather than on some Wikipedia pages.
And back to your whole point about this - if indeed the Chinese government is in control of Bitcoin because mining is a large/significant business operating in China then you must accept that the Chinese government is in control of Apple computers (and of computer hardware in general).
Hmm... wait - the Chinese make other things too don't they (like nearly all of the clothes people wear and toys they buy for their kids, etc.)
So again - what is your point? That the majority of manufacturing in the world today is under the control of the Chinese government?
where do you know about China? I think Mao is a great person, if in the present, he is notand, a lot of people do not understand the political, but also has many people to pursue freedom of speech and democracy, people around the world need democracy (I can't find a developed country is socialist) but you know, I don't want to talk too much about politics, I am a Chinese
My point is that it is naive to believe that the Chinese communist government doesn't control all aspects of mining within its political domain because the entire point of communism, by its very definition, is to establish a "state monopoly".
So as they control all aspects of computer manufacturing then the same thing applies to that and to clothing manufacturing, etc.
OMG - the world is controlled by a "state monopoly".
You are free to have your own opinion on the true objectives of Mao's revolution. It is my opinion and that of Vladimir Lenin that the "socialist revolution" in the communist sense is to establish "nothing but state capitalist monopoly made to benefit the whole people."
Well - my opinion is actually based upon speaking to actual (and average) Chinese people who lived through the time of Mao (and none of which remember that time fondly) rather than on some Wikipedia pages.
And back to your whole point about this - if indeed the Chinese government is in control of Bitcoin because mining is a large/significant business operating in China then you must accept that the Chinese government is in control of Apple computers (and of computer hardware in general).
Hmm... wait - the Chinese make other things too don't they (like nearly all of the clothes people wear and toys they buy for their kids, etc.)
So again - what is your point? That the majority of manufacturing in the world today is under the control of the Chinese government?
My point is that it is naive to believe that the Chinese communist government doesn't control all aspects of mining within its political domain because the entire point of communism, by its very definition, is to establish a "state monopoly".
Bitcoin core is the most simple solution and the one which is easiest to implement. So I see no problem with this, in my mind, BTC dev team should stop arguing for alternatives, implement this and business as usual.
You are free to have your own opinion on the true objectives of Mao's revolution. It is my opinion and that of Vladimir Lenin that the "socialist revolution" in the communist sense is to establish "nothing but state capitalist monopoly made to benefit the whole people."
Well - my opinion is actually based upon speaking to actual (and average) Chinese people who lived through the time of Mao (and none of which remember that time fondly) rather than on some Wikipedia pages.
And back to your whole point about this - if indeed the Chinese government is in control of Bitcoin because mining is a large/significant business operating in China then you must accept that the Chinese government is in control of Apple computers (and of computer hardware in general).
Hmm... wait - the Chinese make other things too don't they (like nearly all of the clothes people wear and toys they buy for their kids, etc.)
So again - what is your point? That the majority of manufacturing in the world today is under the control of the Chinese government?
Unfortunately, you are the one who is "seriously confused". Please, go enlighten yourself. There is no difference between State Socialism and State Capitalism.
And from that:
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Most current Communist groups descended from the Maoist ideological tradition still adopt the description of both China and the Soviet Union as being "state-capitalist" from a certain point in their history onwards—most commonly, the Soviet Union from 1956 to its collapse in 1991, and China from 1976 to the present.
So perhaps rather than 1980 I should have written 1976 - are we quibbling over 4 years now or are you just wanting to argue about terminology rather than actual practice?
(you seem to me to be the type who "just wants to win an argument" so I'm pretty sure I'm wasting my time responding)
You are free to have your own opinion on the true objectives of Mao's revolution. It is my opinion and that of Vladimir Lenin that the "socialist revolution" in the communist sense is to establish "nothing but state capitalist monopoly made to benefit the whole people."
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