It's a perma ban that was reduce to sig ban only, users who were granted that reduction of punishment should be thankful.
This forum is not only about signature campaign, and I believe if you are a good contributor to the forum with the post you are making, your contribution will never change even not wearing a signature.
Like I always read, signature is a privilege and because one made a serious offense, temporarily that privilege was taken.
my 2 cents.
Topic: [Appeal] 1-2years sig ban is too much for Good for the forum users - page 2. (Read 659 times)
If having no signature affects their activity on the forum - maybe they're here for the wrong reason to begin with. The 1-2 year sig ban is good enough. A 1000-merit penalty (or deranking to Newbie) would be even better so that they would have to earn their way back (now they just need to wait it out).
Deranking to newbies after remove permanent bans might make them mad, especially whom are here to work for campaigns. They mostly won't be able to come back (repromotions) to higher ranks. Because some (or most) of them even are not earned too much merits (or a single of merit) after 14 months since the birthday of merit system. Therefore, such deranks/ demotions might results in another chaotic situation (due to massive complaints and appeals) in the forum, that might not what we expect for. Additionally, I don't think mods expect that (at least in near future) because they actually have huge workloads recent days due to perma-ban appeals and plagiarsim reports. 
Let's not forget that not so long ago, appealing to get unbanned after getting permabanned for plagiarism was like one trying to "chew water". It was mission impossible.
Currently, I think 1-2 year signature ban is okay rather than lose your account forever which would now be the case to all offenders had a second chance and signature bans not been considered yet.
So one step at a time....
Currently, I think 1-2 year signature ban is okay rather than lose your account forever which would now be the case to all offenders had a second chance and signature bans not been considered yet.
So one step at a time....
First they have not been labeled "good for the forum" They've been labelled a "net positive" and there is a difference. At whatever point in time, these members plagiarized something and until now had gotten away with it. Some have done it more than once, luckily for the older members though they flew under the radar long enough to redeem themselves. However if the punishment is a slap on the wrist, then it's not a strong enough deterrent, it also has to be punitive enough to not make the permaban seem overly severe.
A minimum 1 year ban seems fair. I second suchmoon in regards to their priorities if they choose to become inactive. I think most of these members could find their way back from a deranking, but think that it wouldn't demontenize things enough unless you meant on top of the current punishment.
A minimum 1 year ban seems fair. I second suchmoon in regards to their priorities if they choose to become inactive. I think most of these members could find their way back from a deranking, but think that it wouldn't demontenize things enough unless you meant on top of the current punishment.
Completely disagree with you. I think that 1-2 years signature ban is the best solution in this situation. Plagiarism, even if it was done years ago still deserves strict penalty. 60 days ban + signature ban for few months isn't enough in my opinion and it wouldn't have big effect. In past users who made this mistake didn't got second chance and now they got some mercy. I don't agree that we should make this penalty even less strict. Actually, signature ban isn't strict penalty in my opinion at all. Very well said by suchmoon - if user can't use forum without wearing signature, probably he joined Bitcointalk for a wrong reasons.
IMO 1-2 year signature ban is fair.
The forum is not a place in which people can earn income for doing low effort tasks, and it not a place where posting should be considered a "job". You should post if you have a genuine interest in the topic of discussion, and any signature income should be an added bonus.
The forum is not a place in which people can earn income for doing low effort tasks, and it not a place where posting should be considered a "job". You should post if you have a genuine interest in the topic of discussion, and any signature income should be an added bonus.
If having no signature affects their activity on the forum - maybe they're here for the wrong reason to begin with. The 1-2 year sig ban is good enough. A 1000-merit penalty (or deranking to Newbie) would be even better so that they would have to earn their way back (now they just need to wait it out).
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If a forum member have been lable "good for the forum", that's a users that have helped contributed positively to the growth of the forum either by quality contributions, scam/spam busting etc, I believe the 1-2years ban from wearing signatures is just too much. Maybe a lesser punishment should been introduced, I'm ok with the 60days or more temporary ban as the case may be but for the signature aspect, I suggest it should be reduced to months. Maybe maximum 4-6months and if they commit same offends whether with past or future post, they get permanent ban.
I know they have already received some mercy by not getting permanent banned like regular users but the forum administrators should show more mercy as these users have showed interest in making the forum better, it should be reduced to months as this will definitely affect their activeness on the forum.
From a concerned forum member who haven't be affected in any form.
I know they have already received some mercy by not getting permanent banned like regular users but the forum administrators should show more mercy as these users have showed interest in making the forum better, it should be reduced to months as this will definitely affect their activeness on the forum.
From a concerned forum member who haven't be affected in any form.
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