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Quote from: em3rgentOrdr on May 05, 2011, 12:34:10 AM

Quote from: eMansipater on May 05, 2011, 12:25:58 AM

It seems likely that most users will accumulate both +'s and -'s as -'ed users try and cancel out their own "bad karma". Public records or the advanced system would reduce this. But there is also the fact that you can only - someone once every 10 days. So as long as other users consider your minus unjust, they will be able to easily outvote it.

It would be nice to know for which post (in addition from whom) I got -'ed for. Huh

+1

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Quote from: eMansipater on May 05, 2011, 12:25:58 AM

It seems likely that most users will accumulate both +'s and -'s as -'ed users try and cancel out their own "bad karma". Public records or the advanced system would reduce this. But there is also the fact that you can only - someone once every 10 days. So as long as other users consider your minus unjust, they will be able to easily outvote it.

It would be nice to know for which post (in addition from whom) I got -'ed for. Huh

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It seems likely that most users will accumulate both +'s and -'s as -'ed users try and cancel out their own "bad karma". Public records or the advanced system would reduce this. But there is also the fact that you can only - someone once every 10 days. So as long as other users consider your minus unjust, they will be able to easily outvote it.

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Quote from: trentzb on May 04, 2011, 11:32:50 PM

Although some may not give much importance to the applaud/smite, especially those who have got to know each other here for a while, new users could have hesitation about interacting and/or transacting with smitten members.

People who are paying attention to the reputation system will applaud/+ you to correct for any undeserved smites/-
Assuming you occasionally make valuable posts... and if you don't you probably deserve the smite anyway.

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Quote from: em3rgentOrdr on May 04, 2011, 11:19:06 PM

How about "+" and "-"?

Wow...looks like the forum owner has already adopted my suggestion! That was fast! Cheesy

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Quote from: nster on May 04, 2011, 10:40:47 PM

I just got a smite for no apparent reason....

This is exactly what my concern was in my post in similar Meta thread:

Quote from: trentzb on May 04, 2011, 08:40:47 PM

I can imagine that smite will get out of hand. I would much prefer an applaud feature only, although I could see how that could be abused as well. Alternately and maybe better yet, if the applaud/smite feature only becomes available for ~Jr/Full Member levels or better....does it already work this way? I don't have an alternate account to try it.

And I guess I got a smite for that...or any of my other 91 posts, or for any random reason. Is this really the way this is supposed to work? Although some may not give much importance to the applaud/smite, especially those who have got to know each other here for a while, new users could have hesitation about interacting and/or transacting with smitten members.

I realize it's purpose is not necessarily transaction rating, but if a new user or any user wants to conduct a transaction with someone on the forum the first thing (I suspect) that may cause trust issues is if the person has smites...which can come from anywhere.

I hope it is just that I don't understand how the applaud/smite works.

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I agree on remove the minuses. I personally see this system as a win/lose situation. I'd much prefer see a Thanks button and accumulation of thanks

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Quote from: kiba on May 04, 2011, 09:58:52 PM

Don't think reputation based on if forum goers agree with you is useful.

Rather have reputation related to doing business.

Business reputation is definitely useful, and that is precisely what the OTC ratings are for. It's also very valuable, though, for a first-time visitor to the forums to be able to tell which users simply post a lot, and which have achieved some kind of recognition by their peers. Especially if that visitor is a potential entrepreneur, investor, journalist, etc. There are a lot of people who use the forums but don't spend a lot of time on them getting to know everyone. We'll have to see how it goes--I think the advanced system sounds like a good idea.

Quote from: Alex Beckenham on May 04, 2011, 09:22:35 PM

But really, it'd be fine with me if there were no 'smite' option at all, just let people rack up the applause points.

This might be a good idea, too.

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Quote from: Alex Beckenham on May 04, 2011, 09:22:35 PM

Quote from: NghtRppr on May 04, 2011, 09:07:00 PM

I'm not too crazy about the titles because "applaud" and "smite" don't really suggest intended uses. Perhaps, "helpful" and "unhelpful"? That way it would discourage negative ratings just because of differences of opinion.

How about "Congratulate" / "Fire into the sun with a large catapult"

How about "+" and "-"?

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I just got a smite for no apparent reason....

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Don't think reputation based on if forum goers agree with you is useful.

Rather have reputation related to doing business.

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I don't like these things. Posts should stand on content, not reputation. (This is why I prefer anonymous boards like 4chan.)

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Quote from: NghtRppr on May 04, 2011, 09:07:00 PM

I'm not too crazy about the titles because "applaud" and "smite" don't really suggest intended uses. Perhaps, "helpful" and "unhelpful"? That way it would discourage negative ratings just because of differences of opinion.

How about "Congratulate" / "Fire into the sun with a large catapult"

But really, it'd be fine with me if there were no 'smite' option at all, just let people rack up the applause points.

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I'm not too crazy about the titles because "applaud" and "smite" don't really suggest intended uses. Perhaps, "helpful" and "unhelpful"? That way it would discourage negative ratings just because of differences of opinion.

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The advance system sounds better, but what I'd really like to have is a system like the otc web of trust where you can rate a person from -10 to +10 and change those ratings without restriction.

Edit: Btw, is it possible to see who has applauded or smited you? If not, does that apply to mods/admins as well?

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Quote from: eMansipater on May 04, 2011, 06:45:50 PM

Do we know the details of

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Set the minimum posts needed to modify karma - The number of posts needed to have a "karma".
Set wait time in hours - The time between smites or applauds.
Restrict administrators to wait time - If administrators have to wait for the time above as well.

Well, I know this much anyway...

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Sorry, you can't repeat a karma action without waiting 240 hours.

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Quote from: eMansipater on May 04, 2011, 07:07:27 PM

Quote from: mewantsbitcoins on May 04, 2011, 07:01:03 PM

One problem I see with this is that people who simply disagree on a subject will start giving each other negative karma and eventually it will invalidate the helpful post they make

I think this is one problem the advanced reputation system attempts to address--users who get in a negative karma war will end up invalidating their own ability to influence reputation. Can someone who has used the system comment on the "softer" points of how it tends to work out socially?

What about some sort of peer vouching system or mods review of a member before he/she becomes eligible for the system?

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I was wondering how this applaud / smile thing would work... now I get it

All I can say is; great, now bobR is going to troll AND smite on everyone.

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Quote from: mewantsbitcoins on May 04, 2011, 07:01:03 PM

One problem I see with this is that people who simply disagree on a subject will start giving each other negative karma and eventually it will invalidate the helpful post they make

I think this is one problem the advanced reputation system attempts to address--users who get in a negative karma war will end up invalidating their own ability to influence reputation. Can someone who has used the system comment on the "softer" points of how it tends to work out socially?

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Quote from: mewantsbitcoins on May 04, 2011, 07:01:03 PM

One problem I see with this is that people who simply disagree on a subject will start giving each other negative karma and eventually it will invalidate the helpful post they make

My fear too.

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