Apple iPhone Factory Unlocking - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158490 - page 2.

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Quote from: PatrickOMFG on January 28, 2013, 05:28:04 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on January 28, 2013, 05:24:12 PM

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 04:14:09 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on January 28, 2013, 04:06:39 PM

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 03:12:51 PM

Not a big deal, I don't really see what harm anyone can do with an IMEI though.
There, unfortunately, isn't another way to factory unlock an iPhone without the IMEI.

Many people on here know were I'm employed and have much of my info for previous trades (and I would be willing to share those details with trustworthy people) if that helps build trust.

From what I understand (and this is just from some quick random internet reading), someone could emulate or rewrite a phone's IMEI to gain access to the same plan at the original phone is on. So, theoretically, you could take my IMEI and put all sorts of fun stuff (text messaging, data roaming, purchases, etc) on my next phone bill. I am no expert, so it could be that this is completely wrong.

I'm not saying you would, as I really don't think you would, but I don't like to take chances like this anymore. If you could point me to a reliable source stating that this isn't possible, then I might reconsider. Also, the trust-building things you mentioned wouldn't hurt.

I don't have an official source but it's likely hard, if not impossible, to "create" a new/different IMEI number on an iPhone's Logic Board.

I understand your precautions and don't blame you for having them. I'll PM you for some more details about me.

Thanks. I did hear from others that the ROM isn't reflashable at all (which is usually true for anything called ROM). Thanks as well for following up with the details about yourself. I do believe that you aren't out to do anything scammish at this point.

Wtfvanity brings up a good point about AT&T doing it for free. The only reason I would want to unlock my phone would be to resell it when I renew my contract, so I may as well wait and do it for free.

One more question - Would I be able to verify the unlock on my phone, without attempting to switch to another network?

Don't quote me on this but last time I checked if your iPhone becomes unlocked, the next time you connect it to iTunes it will give you a message saying it has been unlocked that looks similar to this.

+1 . Remember to plug your iPhone into iTunes after you use the unlock service.

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Quote from: PatrickOMFG on January 28, 2013, 05:28:04 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on January 28, 2013, 05:24:12 PM

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 04:14:09 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on January 28, 2013, 04:06:39 PM

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 03:12:51 PM

Not a big deal, I don't really see what harm anyone can do with an IMEI though.
There, unfortunately, isn't another way to factory unlock an iPhone without the IMEI.

Many people on here know were I'm employed and have much of my info for previous trades (and I would be willing to share those details with trustworthy people) if that helps build trust.

From what I understand (and this is just from some quick random internet reading), someone could emulate or rewrite a phone's IMEI to gain access to the same plan at the original phone is on. So, theoretically, you could take my IMEI and put all sorts of fun stuff (text messaging, data roaming, purchases, etc) on my next phone bill. I am no expert, so it could be that this is completely wrong.

I'm not saying you would, as I really don't think you would, but I don't like to take chances like this anymore. If you could point me to a reliable source stating that this isn't possible, then I might reconsider. Also, the trust-building things you mentioned wouldn't hurt.

I don't have an official source but it's likely hard, if not impossible, to "create" a new/different IMEI number on an iPhone's Logic Board.

I understand your precautions and don't blame you for having them. I'll PM you for some more details about me.

Thanks. I did hear from others that the ROM isn't reflashable at all (which is usually true for anything called ROM). Thanks as well for following up with the details about yourself. I do believe that you aren't out to do anything scammish at this point.

Wtfvanity brings up a good point about AT&T doing it for free. The only reason I would want to unlock my phone would be to resell it when I renew my contract, so I may as well wait and do it for free.

One more question - Would I be able to verify the unlock on my phone, without attempting to switch to another network?

Don't quote me on this but last time I checked if your iPhone becomes unlocked, the next time you connect it to iTunes it will give you a message saying it has been unlocked that looks similar to this.

Thanks!

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Quote from: SgtSpike on January 28, 2013, 05:24:12 PM

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 04:14:09 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on January 28, 2013, 04:06:39 PM

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 03:12:51 PM

Not a big deal, I don't really see what harm anyone can do with an IMEI though.
There, unfortunately, isn't another way to factory unlock an iPhone without the IMEI.

Many people on here know were I'm employed and have much of my info for previous trades (and I would be willing to share those details with trustworthy people) if that helps build trust.

From what I understand (and this is just from some quick random internet reading), someone could emulate or rewrite a phone's IMEI to gain access to the same plan at the original phone is on. So, theoretically, you could take my IMEI and put all sorts of fun stuff (text messaging, data roaming, purchases, etc) on my next phone bill. I am no expert, so it could be that this is completely wrong.

I'm not saying you would, as I really don't think you would, but I don't like to take chances like this anymore. If you could point me to a reliable source stating that this isn't possible, then I might reconsider. Also, the trust-building things you mentioned wouldn't hurt.

I don't have an official source but it's likely hard, if not impossible, to "create" a new/different IMEI number on an iPhone's Logic Board.

I understand your precautions and don't blame you for having them. I'll PM you for some more details about me.

Thanks. I did hear from others that the ROM isn't reflashable at all (which is usually true for anything called ROM). Thanks as well for following up with the details about yourself. I do believe that you aren't out to do anything scammish at this point.

Wtfvanity brings up a good point about AT&T doing it for free. The only reason I would want to unlock my phone would be to resell it when I renew my contract, so I may as well wait and do it for free.

One more question - Would I be able to verify the unlock on my phone, without attempting to switch to another network?

Don't quote me on this but last time I checked if your iPhone becomes unlocked, the next time you connect it to iTunes it will give you a message saying it has been unlocked that looks similar to this.

http://www.rndmr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/unlock-message.jpg

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Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 04:14:09 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on January 28, 2013, 04:06:39 PM

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 03:12:51 PM

Not a big deal, I don't really see what harm anyone can do with an IMEI though.
There, unfortunately, isn't another way to factory unlock an iPhone without the IMEI.

Many people on here know were I'm employed and have much of my info for previous trades (and I would be willing to share those details with trustworthy people) if that helps build trust.

From what I understand (and this is just from some quick random internet reading), someone could emulate or rewrite a phone's IMEI to gain access to the same plan at the original phone is on. So, theoretically, you could take my IMEI and put all sorts of fun stuff (text messaging, data roaming, purchases, etc) on my next phone bill. I am no expert, so it could be that this is completely wrong.

I'm not saying you would, as I really don't think you would, but I don't like to take chances like this anymore. If you could point me to a reliable source stating that this isn't possible, then I might reconsider. Also, the trust-building things you mentioned wouldn't hurt.

I don't have an official source but it's likely hard, if not impossible, to "create" a new/different IMEI number on an iPhone's Logic Board.

I understand your precautions and don't blame you for having them. I'll PM you for some more details about me.

Thanks. I did hear from others that the ROM isn't reflashable at all (which is usually true for anything called ROM). Thanks as well for following up with the details about yourself. I do believe that you aren't out to do anything scammish at this point.

Wtfvanity brings up a good point about AT&T doing it for free. The only reason I would want to unlock my phone would be to resell it when I renew my contract, so I may as well wait and do it for free.

One more question - Would I be able to verify the unlock on my phone, without attempting to switch to another network?

wtfvanity

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WTF???

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 04:18:26 PM

Quote from: wtfvanity on January 28, 2013, 04:08:51 PM

http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp%3Fsid%3DKB414532%26cv%3D820#fbid=WfLJgTwPamw

ATT says they do it for free if your old account wasn't unpaid or terminated early. If you are a current customer, the account has to be in good standing.

I never realized that before, google search showed me that. I'm just going to submit it to ATT.

You're correct, the main benefit to my unlocking service compared AT&T is listed below:

•Less wait time (typically unlocked in 24 hours vs. 5-7 business days)
•No application denial (Any iPhone that meets my requirements will be unlocked or you get a full refund)
•Unlock for iPhone's whose contract has not yet expired/terminated (AT&T will not do an unlock for iPhone's still under a contact)

If they deny me, I'll PM you. Not in a hurry, it's sat in a draw for a month.

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Quote from: wtfvanity on January 28, 2013, 04:08:51 PM

http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp%3Fsid%3DKB414532%26cv%3D820#fbid=WfLJgTwPamw

ATT says they do it for free if your old account wasn't unpaid or terminated early. If you are a current customer, the account has to be in good standing.

I never realized that before, google search showed me that. I'm just going to submit it to ATT.

You're correct, the main benefit to my unlocking service compared AT&T is listed below:

•Less wait time (typically unlocked in 24 hours vs. 5-7 business days)
•No application denial (Any iPhone that meets my requirements will be unlocked or you get a full refund)
•Unlock for iPhone's whose contract has not yet expired/terminated (AT&T will not do an unlock for iPhone's still under a contact)

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Quote from: SgtSpike on January 28, 2013, 04:06:39 PM

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 03:12:51 PM

Not a big deal, I don't really see what harm anyone can do with an IMEI though.
There, unfortunately, isn't another way to factory unlock an iPhone without the IMEI.

Many people on here know were I'm employed and have much of my info for previous trades (and I would be willing to share those details with trustworthy people) if that helps build trust.

From what I understand (and this is just from some quick random internet reading), someone could emulate or rewrite a phone's IMEI to gain access to the same plan at the original phone is on. So, theoretically, you could take my IMEI and put all sorts of fun stuff (text messaging, data roaming, purchases, etc) on my next phone bill. I am no expert, so it could be that this is completely wrong.

I'm not saying you would, as I really don't think you would, but I don't like to take chances like this anymore. If you could point me to a reliable source stating that this isn't possible, then I might reconsider. Also, the trust-building things you mentioned wouldn't hurt.

I don't have an official source but it's likely hard, if not impossible, to "create" a new/different IMEI number on an iPhone's Logic Board.

I understand your precautions and don't blame you for having them. I'll PM you for some more details about me.

wtfvanity

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WTF???

http://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp%3Fsid%3DKB414532%26cv%3D820#fbid=WfLJgTwPamw

ATT says they do it for free if your old account wasn't unpaid or terminated early. If you are a current customer, the account has to be in good standing.

I never realized that before, google search showed me that. I'm just going to submit it to ATT.

theboss

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Quote from: wtfvanity on January 28, 2013, 04:02:44 PM

Does the phone currently have to have service for it to work? Say I moved to the iphone 5, have an old iphone4 sitting around, it has no SIM card in it now... but would love to toss it on tmobiles $30 prepaid plan.

It does not need to be in service to be unlocked

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Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 03:12:51 PM

Not a big deal, I don't really see what harm anyone can do with an IMEI though.
There, unfortunately, isn't another way to factory unlock an iPhone without the IMEI.

Many people on here know were I'm employed and have much of my info for previous trades (and I would be willing to share those details with trustworthy people) if that helps build trust.

From what I understand (and this is just from some quick random internet reading), someone could emulate or rewrite a phone's IMEI to gain access to the same plan at the original phone is on. So, theoretically, you could take my IMEI and put all sorts of fun stuff (text messaging, data roaming, purchases, etc) on my next phone bill. I am no expert, so it could be that this is completely wrong.

I'm not saying you would, as I really don't think you would, but I don't like to take chances like this anymore. If you could point me to a reliable source stating that this isn't possible, then I might reconsider. Also, the trust-building things you mentioned wouldn't hurt.

wtfvanity

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WTF???

Does the phone currently have to have service for it to work? Say I moved to the iphone 5, have an old iphone4 sitting around, it has no SIM card in it now... but would love to toss it on tmobiles $30 prepaid plan.

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Quote from: greyhawk on January 28, 2013, 03:51:44 PM

Quite right.

Just putting it out there because a lot of people don't know about this yet.

Thanks for the info, I added that requirement to the list just to be safe!

iPhone's can still be unlocked if purchased after that date, it's just up to the purchaser if they don't mind taking that risk.

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Quite right.

Just putting it out there because a lot of people don't know about this yet.

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Quote from: greyhawk on January 28, 2013, 03:30:29 PM

Note that this service is now illegal in the US.

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-unlock-phone-illegal-20130125,0,3942514.story

Not quite, this policy/law is only for phones that are purchased brand new on or after January 26th. 2013:

"'Legacy' or used handsets purchased before today can still be unlocked without any finger-wagging from federal courts."

Also:
"So, what does this mean exactly? Well, Electronic Frontier Foundation attorney Mitch Stoltz told us, "What's happening is not that the Copyright Office is declaring unlocking to be illegal, but rather that they're taking away a shield that unlockers could use in court if they get sued.""

Source:
Library of Congress: https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2012-26308.pdf
Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/26/unlock-phone-exemption-ends/

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Note that this service is now illegal in the US.

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-unlock-phone-illegal-20130125,0,3942514.story

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Not a big deal, I don't really see what harm anyone can do with an IMEI though.
There, unfortunately, isn't another way to factory unlock an iPhone without the IMEI.

Many people on here know were I'm employed and have much of my info for previous trades (and I would be willing to share those details with trustworthy people) if that helps build trust.

SgtSpike

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Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 02:39:47 PM

Quote from: SgtSpike on January 28, 2013, 02:22:54 PM

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 02:12:03 PM

To get my service started (and prove my legitimacy), I'm willing to do my first unlock via BTC for very small amount:

Alright, I'll take you up on it for that price.

Great, you can PM me your IMEI and iPhone model.

Sorry, changed my mind after reading this: http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090816175338AA61UpL

It's not that I don't trust you, it's just that I don't trust anyone on the internet anymore. Wink

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Quote from: SgtSpike on January 28, 2013, 02:22:54 PM

Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 02:12:03 PM

To get my service started (and prove my legitimacy), I'm willing to do my first unlock via BTC for very small amount:

Alright, I'll take you up on it for that price.

Great, you can PM me your IMEI and iPhone model.

SgtSpike

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Quote from: theboss on January 28, 2013, 02:12:03 PM

To get my service started (and prove my legitimacy), I'm willing to do my first unlock via BTC for very small amount:

Alright, I'll take you up on it for that price.

theboss

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To get my service started (and prove my legitimacy), I'm willing to do my first unlock via BTC for very small amount:

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