Topic: Apple is considered safe but still you gotta be careful (Read 480 times)
I doubt they is any safe security anymore apple , Android etc.i just advice before you listen before you pick a wallet to safe your money that what I prescribe because everything now is written scam .
Okay so the original creator of the app posted a legit app. What was name of app? Then they change the app to the fake trezor app? <…>
That is what the available information suggests, being the prior app in the line of one to encypt files and store passwords. I haven’t manages to find the original name of the app though.Quote
So when the guy downloaded trezor app from the app store... it then ask for his seed and he then manually typed it in right? Then moment he did that, the coins were immediately lost?
Not exactly immediately (I doubt they have this past of the process fully automated), but very rapidly for sure. As soon as the people behind the fake app receive someone’s entered 24 word mnemonic, they’ll simply create a wallet using it, having thus access to the stored crypto, and being able to see and manage/move it at their will.Quote
How does one protect oneself then when downloading any apps from the apple app store then?
Apple is way safer than Android, but as this case exemplifies, there is no completely certainty that an app may include some sort of malware or be a hoax, and one should try to minimize what is being installed on sensitive devices, besides making sure it's legit. In this particular case though, knowing what is feasible and what is not (Trezor asking for the mnemonic) is paramount. I often wonder if the native operating system resources have/may, at some point, log and forward some of the data one types …
Okay so the original creator of the app posted a legit app. What was name of app? Then they change the app to the fake trezor app? I am getting confused on this part.
So when the guy downloaded trezor app from the app store... it then ask for his seed and he then manually typed it in right? Then moment he did that, the coins were immediately lost?
How does one protect oneself then when downloading any apps from the apple app store then? Im sure tons of you download like some video games there to play right? But as long as you make sure it has thousands of reviews... then its safe? I always check the reviews and see how many reviews an app has before i download it on my iphone. But could any apps you download have keylogger? I know there is keepass on apple store so wouldn't that mean if you download and store all your passwords in it... the legit keepass for example... well any app you download could be malicious and it could read all of your passwords on your keepass if it has keylogger?
So when the guy downloaded trezor app from the app store... it then ask for his seed and he then manually typed it in right? Then moment he did that, the coins were immediately lost?
How does one protect oneself then when downloading any apps from the apple app store then? Im sure tons of you download like some video games there to play right? But as long as you make sure it has thousands of reviews... then its safe? I always check the reviews and see how many reviews an app has before i download it on my iphone. But could any apps you download have keylogger? I know there is keepass on apple store so wouldn't that mean if you download and store all your passwords in it... the legit keepass for example... well any app you download could be malicious and it could read all of your passwords on your keepass if it has keylogger?
All talk about reliability and safety, this is just an advertisement for your brand.
Of course. All ads lie. They are always going to say we are the best, fastest, cheapest, most renowned. No one is going to advertise their brand as kind of ok, relatively expensive, and mediocre. This reminds me of Indian detergent ad where they spill out coffee, tea and some other stain causing things, use their 'magic' detergent powder and voilà the shirt is crystal clean. Meanwhile, me trying to remove couple stains of tea with same detergent, it didn't do shit.
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Although you said you disagree with me, you agreed with me on some points.
Although you said you disagree with me, you agreed with me on some points.
This suggests that nothing is perfect. Therefore, of course, you must always rely on your knowledge and a cool head.
Exactly. Don't rely on others and check everything yourself. If I recommended a great app to you and said there is no need to check it, I already did and it's safe, would you just trust me or carry out your own inspection? Maybe I am the best in the business, but I could still have overlooked something, made a mistake, or I am just having a bad day.All talk about reliability and safety, this is just an advertisement for your brand.
Of course. All ads lie. They are always going to say we are the best, fastest, cheapest, most renowned. No one is going to advertise their brand as kind of ok, relatively expensive, and mediocre. 
Somehow, I feel Apple is to be blamed for this sort of issues. They do claim that
Apple's fault was to not discover and remove the fake application. It's not Apple's fault that users didn't check what they were downloading and trusted that others (Apple staff) did their job for them. If the user was that reckless with his coins, it was just a matter of time when something bad would happen. He might have been lucky in the past, but this time it unfortunately caught up on him.I wonder how they miss this sort of activity if truly their moderators are working every day.
I work every day and I make mistakes because I am human, don't you? Those tasked to supervise me, recognize those mistakes and correct them. It's a team effort and there is always someone who is not at his best. I have corrected my direct supervisors several times. Keep your eyes open at all times, especially when you dealing with money. I disagree. Apple boasts that all apps are safe. That is, some responsible people must check the application several times before allowing this application for general use. I do not see any human factor here but only see human carelessness.
The scammers substituted and provided a safe version of the utility, which in no way justifies the App Store itself.
We know today that an audit was conducted following this event and several more apps were removed from the App Store. This suggests that nothing is perfect. All talk about reliability and safety, this is just an advertisement for your brand. Therefore, of course, you must always rely on your knowledge and a cool head.
Somehow, I feel Apple is to be blamed for this sort of issues. They do claim that
Apple's fault was to not discover and remove the fake application. It's not Apple's fault that users didn't check what they were downloading and trusted that others (Apple staff) did their job for them. If the user was that reckless with his coins, it was just a matter of time when something bad would happen. He might have been lucky in the past, but this time it unfortunately caught up on him.I wonder how they miss this sort of activity if truly their moderators are working every day.
I work every day and I make mistakes because I am human, don't you? Those tasked to supervise me, recognize those mistakes and correct them. It's a team effort and there is always someone who is not at his best. I have corrected my direct supervisors several times. Keep your eyes open at all times, especially when you dealing with money. 
Reviews should be read, but that on its own is no certain safeguard. This particular app has 155 reviews, mostly in the 5 star range. Not a massive amount, but enough for somebody that relies on this criteria alone to install the app, to his later to be met dismay.
It's always a common norm for many people to not read reviews in Apple store when compares to Google playstore because the trust Apple too much.
Somehow, I feel Apple is to be blamed for this sort of issues. They do claim that
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'everyday, moderators review worldwide Apple Store charts for quality and accuracy.'
https://www.apple.com/app-store/I wonder how they miss this sort of activity if truly their moderators are working every day.
We ain't safe any longer with what download anymore.
Our safety lies in our hands. If we're vigilant and aware of what we're downloading, we're safe if we're downloading the official app of any product. Before downloading, we're too resourceful to know who are the sources and if they're trustworthy and reputable, in that initiative, you'll know the fake apps and the official ones.This is the worst experience ever to lose all your savings in a twinkle of an eye.
This is the main reason why I go through all the recommendations rating of an app before I choose to download it.
The world will leave in is full of scams. The third parties shouldn't be trusted either when transacting information with them
Be careful too with the reviews below, I've seen apps that has thousands of downloads made by the culprit and probably paid people just to increase the number of downloads and to do fake reviews. This is the main reason why I go through all the recommendations rating of an app before I choose to download it.
The world will leave in is full of scams. The third parties shouldn't be trusted either when transacting information with them
I think there is no such thing as safe, from any kind of operating system or applications, if you just allow applications in your mobile, computer, or laptop, that will be the end of it, if you never care to read or research what is going to be installed, at the same time make sure the source is safe, and take time to review comments from any applications, you are going to put in your devices.
Couldn't believe it myself that Apple as stated by the OP who is known for their rigorous and strict requirements for apps to be published in their Appstore, I hope that Apple has taken an action towards this malware app that passed through their requirements
Nowhere online is safe anymore for this normal people who are naive when it comes to their online security, this event also serves as a PSA to every newbies and long time users in the forum to be careful on what you are clicking/download online because sometimes our arrogance that we might not be the victim of this kind of schemes will be our eventual downfall.
That's the human fault if they fell to the traps of a scammer because no matter what security you put on something for its safety there's nothing you could do if you fall for the traps of a scammer. The only way to avoid this from happening in the future is to be very cautious to everything you take from the internet because scammers are always planning way ahead of you. So check every reviews you see on the product or apps that you like to download but be wary because not all reviews are legit because you can easily identify a type of review that is written exaggeratedly to promote such apps/projects. Nowhere online is safe anymore for this normal people who are naive when it comes to their online security, this event also serves as a PSA to every newbies and long time users in the forum to be careful on what you are clicking/download online because sometimes our arrogance that we might not be the victim of this kind of schemes will be our eventual downfall.
Apple store is for IPhone what Playstore is for Android. When Apple store is compared to Playstore, its relatively very safe than the playstore. Apps on Playstore barely go through any severe scrutiny, mostbof the apps available on playstore are mainly apps that have been able to satisfy minimal conditions of which the most of it ends in a fee, who wouldn't afford that especially when what they stand to gain through there phishig or scam platform. Mean while, apple does a lot of scrutiny and verification on the apps in there apple store. Compared to android regular playstore, apple store is safe but, its best you always verify an app form its official site before downloading.
I only thought that android was the worst operating system for cryptocurrency but it seems none of these big companies are able to stop scammers from doing cryptocurrency scams by using their platform. I assume the biggest falt lies with the user who does not ever verify what he or she is downloading from these store. It is beeter to directly visit the service provider website in order to download any cryptocurrency app on your device.
The scammer was a genius, able to trick the user who had lost his btc...what you say is right, why does he not directly download the official application from trezor because usually, the official site includes a link to their original application on the app store. *big unexpected loss
<…> This is the main reason why I go through all the recommendations rating of an app before I choose to download it.<…>
Reviews should be read, but that on its own is no certain safeguard. This particular app has 155 reviews, mostly in the 5 star range. Not a massive amount, but enough for somebody that relies on this criteria alone to install the app, to his later to be met dismay.It having most 5 star reviews is red flag in itself.
I only thought that android was the worst operating system for cryptocurrency but it seems none of these big companies are able to stop scammers from doing cryptocurrency scams by using their platform. I assume the biggest falt lies with the user who does not ever verify what he or she is downloading from these store. It is beeter to directly visit the service provider website in order to download any cryptocurrency app on your device.
<…> This is the main reason why I go through all the recommendations rating of an app before I choose to download it.<…>
Reviews should be read, but that on its own is no certain safeguard. This particular app has 155 reviews, mostly in the 5 star range. Not a massive amount, but enough for somebody that relies on this criteria alone to install the app, to his later to be met dismay.This is very similar to those fake sites that follow the same procedure, and demand your 24 word mnemonic. Perhaps Trezor (not only them) should make it very clear in their material that they won’t ever ask for this information themselves, neither on any site nor app. The enclosed card warns about not revealing this info to others, but should probably emphasize that sites/apps with their brand (Trezor) as a claim are no exception to this.
Couldn't believe it myself that Apple as stated by the OP who is known for their rigorous and strict requirements for apps to be published in their Appstore, I hope that Apple has taken an action towards this malware app that passed through their requirements
Nowhere online is safe anymore for this normal people who are naive when it comes to their online security, this event also serves as a PSA to every newbies and long time users in the forum to be careful on what you are clicking/download online because sometimes our arrogance that we might not be the victim of this kind of schemes will be our eventual downfall.
Nowhere online is safe anymore for this normal people who are naive when it comes to their online security, this event also serves as a PSA to every newbies and long time users in the forum to be careful on what you are clicking/download online because sometimes our arrogance that we might not be the victim of this kind of schemes will be our eventual downfall.
We ain't safe any longer with what download anymore. This is the worst experience ever to lose all your savings in a twinkle of an eye.
This is the main reason why I go through all the recommendations rating of an app before I choose to download it.
The world will leave in is full of scams. The third parties shouldn't be trusted either when transacting information with them
This is the main reason why I go through all the recommendations rating of an app before I choose to download it.
The world will leave in is full of scams. The third parties shouldn't be trusted either when transacting information with them
I'm not sure if y'all aware of it but if not: https://decrypt.co/63508/fake-trezor-iphone-app-scams-user-out-of-600000-in-bitcoin
Apple is known for it's rigorous process before allowing apps to it's app store, hence people tend to get bit loose with what they are downloading.
Fake trezor app passed through apple tests, multiple people fell for it, one with 17 BTC.
Don't depend on third party for your security.
All those who lost BTC to this are to be blame for their misfortune, there is no trezor app on IOS and again it would have safe them alot if they do research first than trusting a third-party, when it comes to money or assets storing apps do not use any online stores, go straight to the app official website and download from there Apple is known for it's rigorous process before allowing apps to it's app store, hence people tend to get bit loose with what they are downloading.
Fake trezor app passed through apple tests, multiple people fell for it, one with 17 BTC.
Don't depend on third party for your security.
when it comes to an app store like Apple and Google they shouldn't be this easy to be fool by scammer which means they are absolutely not doing their job very well in terms of moderating the app they have on their platform.
You are kidding yourself if you think Apple or Google care about you, at all. They care about making money, and if scammers are willing to pay them, then Apple and Google will happily take their money. From fake apps on their respective app stores, to fake and scam extension on their browsers, to scam results being pushed to the top of Google results, to running ads from known scammers, to mining your data and selling it to third parties, the list goes on. You cannot rely on these companies to protect you in any way. They will happily sell out you, you security, and your data, if scammers are willing to pay them for the opportunity.We've seen all kinds of apps lead to the theft of bitcoin, everything from fake wallets like in this case, to something as simple as a new theme which had a keylogger built in and stole seed phrases as they were being entered in to legitimate wallet apps. If you use your phone for bitcoin, then you should download the bare minimum number of apps on it, and only open source reputable apps from sources your trust, ideally verified prior to installing. The same holds true for your computer or any other electronic devices. Each additional piece of software, app, browser extension, etc., you download is an added risk.
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