Topic: Apple pay will make bitcoin (even more) useless. Let's deal with it. - page 7. (Read 7886 times)

to give money to beggars on the internet:

No way that's just crap bitcoin is open source and a Currency not a Payment system!

not true. not true. Main companies apple has made agreements with are all over the world. Mastercard, Visa and such are all over the world. Basically almost every merchant with a PoS can accept it. Yes, apple pay is not a currency and will use local currency. That makes this strong. People are using fiat currency right now, fiat currency, even if there is inflation, quite small really, are strong. Why? because they are accepted as paying sistem in all territory  of the nation by everyone. so purple can trust fiat currency. And they can trust the payments system which is controlled by banks. They cannot make errors, see their money lost or stolen as with bitcoin Exactely for that reason, because there is a society responsible for their money. Bank has a debt with customer. With btc you are always risky. You never feel safe. If you pay something and you don't get the service, money is lost anyway. If a thkef steals your money, it is lost. If you have an address on your pc and your pc breaks, money is lost. If there is a bubble and bitcoin loses value, money is lost. While when happened thay a fiat currency lost 50% of his value in one week? when in history?
I am not saying that banks are good. They make profit, to much profit for my opinion for their real service. But the system is working right now. Hundred Billions dollars or euros move each hour everywhere and everything works. Yes, with some fees and a small inflation set by General reserve or what it is. But it works. With future payments made by nfc everyone will be able to pay with his bank account directly without carrying cash. Why would people use bitcoin? to try a new thing? to feel active brave against evil banks? to feel heroes? seriously.

You can only offend me. You don't understand how stupid is when an adult offends another adult man in the Internet. I find this quite silly and shameful. Anyway if you feel better, offend me. I think every word I have written.

And yes I invested in btc. I believed in the idea at first and wanted to make profit too obviously as you all. I invested in a risky thing aware of it and lost. I could gain profit, big profit, it did not happen. This does not make me stupid. Only stupid people can think that losing money happens only to stupid.

You're a typical "make me rich quick scheme" The exact garbages that are attracted to bubbles. LOL at your investment btw

I like your sig, still begging for bitcoins?

You like to invest into something you dont understand? Seems like a trend to you, and since you said  you "won" big.... i think you dont understand investment means..... to you its gambling.

So... now you keep making posts to show how retard you are?

Apple Pay is just a payment method service, which relies on a old as fck payment network "credit card". Do you know how many ppl with iPhone that is a subset of number CC holders?

So you think because millions ppl will use Apple Pay which makes the fees lower while did not even notice the fact that EVERY CC holders have been using CC and the fees have always been high. Now you want another middle man, and claim it will be cheaper?

yes plenty of reasons... same reasons you don't know and I don't honestly know too. Only reason I think bitcoin should rise is to make me rich and you too but hope is not enough. Ehi guys, face reality.... world is changing. Ban system is changing. Btc will soon be obsolete as every, every technology becomes. Sooner or later. I only hope later enough to reduce my loss at least. I hope in one small last bubble burst to retake my money and leave.

un fortunately i cannot sell. I would lose 40% of my investment. Btc has deluded me a lot. At first I was involved and invested a lot, I had some savings I did not use them to live, so I tried. I won something first, I invested a second time and at third time I involved a big capital. I was unlucky. It was in December 2013.

I guess this dumbass sold his coins..... Now hes hating.

I know this is a troll post, but everything you just described good be applied to why would we use fiat when we can use bitcoin. There are plenty of reasons why bitcoin may be a better option, and I'm sure you're already aware of these.

Okay, so my knowledge on Apple pay is not extensive. However, it is not comparable to Bitcoin on many levels. First, Bitcoin is a currency. Applepay is not a currency. Your money will still be subjected to the value and weaknesses of USD. Applepay does not have properties that will allow you to send money across the globe without consideration of nation states. (Gold does not have these properties either) Applepay is centralized and closed source. Payments can be undone.

From what I understand Applepay is paypal with NFC. Not anything like Bitcoin.

Hey dumbass, Apple Pay is only for merchants accepting payment. Bitcoin is for everyone.

Say i want to sent your ass some nickles, now can you show me how Apple Pay would let me send that nickle straight up your ass? put your iPhone right up your ass and i click send from my iphone?

No one know you were dropped and kicked in the head by your mom ... until you opened this thread.

If you don't want to own any Bitcoins, then you don't have to.

If believe that the only value in Bitcoin is low transaction fees, then you should sell all yours now and find something else to do with your time.

Don't worry - since Bitcoin is doomed so you won't be missing much.

not even one senseful answer.

I know my English is not perfect. ok? Hyde, hide, whatever

keyword: realiable IOS
>reliable
>closed source
Pick one.

I think you'll find that Swiss banks are now more Jekyll than Hyde.

And if it doesn't, we'll forget everything you told us, to spare you the embarrassment? That suits me; I don't mind forgetting you. Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

things are changing. Apple pay and nfc payments are ready to go. APPLE has made agreements with main companies to have very low fees. And everything will be very safe, since fingerprint scanner and reliable iOS. I guess this will be the raising trend of next years. Other tech companies will follow. People will use their smartphones to pay basically everything. Cash will be increasingly obsolete. In 10 years or more it could even be banished. At that time, payments by smartphone will be so common and safe that even fees will be very low, almost 0. Because with the growing mass of people paying those fees, banks will be able to lower. Anyway here in UE fees are actually very low, 0,2% for debt card and 0,3% for credit card.
So let's face this problem. What is the place of bitcoin in this scenario of fast cheap safe Mney transferring? why should people use bitcoin? to Hyde their money? there are better systems. You can buy gold, or put money in a Swiss bank. Or until cash will be used, it will be the simplest solution. For people not so inside tech, it is easier to make a bag of cars than buying bitcoin.
And please don't repeat the old Bullshits of government, of new world order, Nsa watching us. These are cliche. There is no secret bank organization ruling the world. Banks are over there to make their profit offering services as every fucking company. Normal people are not even interested in hiding money, since they have nothing to Hyde. So should we appeal to criminals? It would be good if even only them used bitcoin, but I don't think so.
Well guys, if the Ponzi is going to burst, remember that I told you.