Apple Vision Pro and its Implication in Online Gambling - page 3.

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Quote from: Wexnident on June 08, 2023, 05:58:40 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

Oh it's the new VR gear, with a seemingly insane price tag afaik AND a battery life that sucks ass. The thing is, there are probably more bad sides to it but just these two are already more of a reason that shows this thing isn't really worth it for what they showcased (which was err, watching movies, live virtual showing/presentation idk what you'd call it really, and other stuff similar to that). A laptop or mobile phone would 100% suffice, and be a lot more comfortable with a LOT lower of price tag. This is just a premium, expensive idk, toy for people who want some luxury in life. Which I kinda get, Apple does have their target audience as those tbf.

But to it gambling, I don't think it matters much. It just enhances the experience if it can do what I'm imagining it can, since it has afaik AR tech as well? Should be a rather immersive experience imo. But to buy it just to gamble? Nah, I'm better off going to a physical casino really.

That's literally the bare minimum of what it should do, and I do think Apple got it right but I just don't see people going out of their way to buy stuff like this (I do know that people will buy this) when a macbook does the same thing for less than the regular price of a Vision Pro, without the sucky battery life, the subpar features and benefits, and the price too. And in my opinion (don't ratify me on this) if you're someone who wants to be even more immersed in your gambling session that you'd rather buy this overpriced hunk of plastic and silicon rather than just literally going to your nearest casino and playing whatever similar game is presented on the gambling site, you have a brain problem and you should get yourself checked because that is not a normal way of thinking.

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Is this better on Oculus VR?

Did you mean better than? I will say so, but also very expensive. Apple Vision Pro cost $3500 which is more than expensive. But it is the best that I have seen. According to the review I have watched before it is eyes sensitive. If you look at apps on the vision pro, the app will detect that as it increases in size, and if you want to click on the app, only what you need to do is to touch your thumb with your fore finger and it will click. Apps and everything is controlled by your eyes and your fingers. It would be of nice experience, but the battery is not strong and it is too expensive. Some VR devices are requires you to connect to a PC or console though, while Oculus VR like Quest or Meta Quest 2 last 2 to 3 hours after fully charged.

This is insane I mean the price, I don't know why some people still go for that over priced products Apple has lost its place in the market and we have better products that can compete with Apple at a cheaper rate and some of them are more durable compared to Apple products that lack battery.

We already have something like this produced by Samsung and can be used on Android phones that meet its standard, unlike this one that is limited to only Apple devices.

If we do speak about Apple products then for sure it would really be that in premium price which is something that normal because they do really have that expensive products. Do we really think that people would be buying up this thing to have that other real experience in gambling? I dont think so but rather they would really be just simply be contented with their current experienced on using up their devices. It might be giving off that typical or casual experience but the difference isnt that much and not all would really be that spending up tons on something like this.People or gamblers would rather be using up the funds or money on their gambling spending rather than spending on some eyeglass type or wearable on which it doesnt really give out that much significant experience. Online gambling implication or effect?
I dont see for it to be that big or really just that been ignored most likely.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

Oh it's the new VR gear, with a seemingly insane price tag afaik AND a battery life that sucks ass. The thing is, there are probably more bad sides to it but just these two are already more of a reason that shows this thing isn't really worth it for what they showcased (which was err, watching movies, live virtual showing/presentation idk what you'd call it really, and other stuff similar to that). A laptop or mobile phone would 100% suffice, and be a lot more comfortable with a LOT lower of price tag. This is just a premium, expensive idk, toy for people who want some luxury in life. Which I kinda get, Apple does have their target audience as those tbf.

But to it gambling, I don't think it matters much. It just enhances the experience if it can do what I'm imagining it can, since it has afaik AR tech as well? Should be a rather immersive experience imo. But to buy it just to gamble? Nah, I'm better off going to a physical casino really.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on June 08, 2023, 11:04:54 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on June 08, 2023, 10:53:01 AM

Is this better on Oculus VR?

Did you mean better than? I will say so, but also very expensive. Apple Vision Pro cost $3500 which is more than expensive. But it is the best that I have seen. According to the review I have watched before it is eyes sensitive. If you look at apps on the vision pro, the app will detect that as it increases in size, and if you want to click on the app, only what you need to do is to touch your thumb with your fore finger and it will click. Apps and everything is controlled by your eyes and your fingers. It would be of nice experience, but the battery is not strong and it is too expensive. Some VR devices are requires you to connect to a PC or console though, while Oculus VR like Quest or Meta Quest 2 last 2 to 3 hours after fully charged.

This is insane I mean the price, I don't know why some people still go for that over priced products Apple has lost its place in the market and we have better products that can compete with Apple at a cheaper rate and some of them are more durable compared to Apple products that lack battery.

We already have something like this produced by Samsung and can be used on Android phones that meet its standard, unlike this one that is limited to only Apple devices.

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It can work as a marketing boost for casinos which decide introducing this feature to their platforms, so they can be noticed as "innovative" by the public, but for real I don't think it's going to be so entertaining like they promise, as the technology hasn't evolved to a decent satisfaction level yet. Gamblers looking for immersive experience still have to go to land based casinos, there isn't any other alternative for now and probably there won't be for the next decade, at least.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction.

Still depends on the casino who wants to implement on such device. Because implementing this means another source of budget for the graphics that may look a real casino, and buying this one knowing this is a apple product, too expensive, which i don't think casino will consider easily. Well, if they do, that's great, having great experience is better but winning is the best, lossing is worst lol.

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It doesn't have any promising gambling implication, it's a massive disappointment and Apple should realize what they are doing by now. They're a tech company first and a luxury brand second, so they ought to stop releasing trash products like these in the future from now on. Going back to this sorry excuse for a VR headset, first thing's first, it's tacky. The moment you wear that shit around your face you don't look like you're doing work, you'd look like you're watching VR porn through you knockoff google lenses, and besides the fashion part, you're working with an overpriced VR headphone that only gives you 2 hour of playtime. Plus there's not a lot of things you could do on it too, it's mainly usable for work with all these "excel sheets and productivity" mumbo-jumbo they are talking about during its press release.

Apple Vision Pro is a massive disappointment, it's not gonna promise anything besides that dizzying starting price. People are still going to buy it for sure but the stock value of Apple will be the one to decide whether they did something smart or dumb, and upon looking at it, I don't think they revolutionized anything here.

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Quote from: swogerino on June 08, 2023, 04:02:11 PM

However there are about 80% of gamblers who do not give a damn about this technology as they are happy with how things are now.

It is an Apple tech, and gamblers who make use of android and windows OS have no use for it yet not until the technology is copied and the replicated by other manufacturers to make It available to other people non-apple users. For the online gambling I doubt that many people will be comfortable repeatedly wearing a big eye glass to gamble, some people who gamble online like for it to be private and something they can do without other people's knowledge, the Apple Vision Pro is not for them.

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I don't see how it the Vision Pro will have big effects on online gambling, but I'm pretty sure that the adult entertainment industry will come up with some innovative stuff.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on June 08, 2023, 04:14:39 PM

It can change the interfase for the client/player, and you can be more "immersive" but in the end its gonna be the same as always, you are gonna spend the same mone you spend today and make the same plays you make today.

In the first days maybe a company gains a little momentum with the early adoption but not so much.

You can just use that money as your capital instead of spending that much on an item that can’t totally affect your gambling experience. Well, rich people will always want to follow the trend so I expect many will still buy and since this is not just about gambling, many are curious about this thing and how it can change the experience of many. Let’s just see if Apple will allow us to experience it without buying it, because I’m curious too.

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It can change the interfase for the client/player, and you can be more "immersive" but in the end its gonna be the same as always, you are gonna spend the same mone you spend today and make the same plays you make today.

In the first days maybe a company gains a little momentum with the early adoption but not so much.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

On June 5th, Apple released Apple Vision Pro, calling it their first spatial computer. It is an amazing piece of technology and innovation. They continuously push the boundaries of what is possible. I watched the introduction on YouTube, and it was terrific.

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Apple today unveiled Apple Vision Pro, a revolutionary spatial computer that seamlessly blends digital content with the physical world, while allowing users to stay present and connected to others. Vision Pro creates an infinite canvas for apps that scales beyond the boundaries of a traditional display and introduces a fully three-dimensional user interface controlled by the most natural and intuitive inputs possible — a user’s eyes, hands, and voice. Featuring visionOS, the world’s first spatial operating system, Vision Pro lets users interact with digital content in a way that feels like it is physically present in their space. The breakthrough design of Vision Pro features an ultra-high-resolution display system that packs 23 million pixels across two displays, and custom Apple silicon in a unique dual-chip design to ensure every experience feels like it’s taking place in front of the user’s eyes in real time.

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

1. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vision-pro/

I think that since the metaverse became a thing people have been thinking about the possibility of online gambling taking yet another step and becoming way more realistic than what we have right now, and I think this is inevitable, it will not happen tomorrow as I think the price of those devices is going to be too high for the majority of the population, but give it a few decades and they will be everywhere, so it is important that casinos begin to explore those new possibilities, since the first casino which creates an attractive experience you can go through in conjunction with VR equipment will become the leader of that new market.

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They say that Apple gets every product right and I guess they got the Vision Pro right as a product but I doubt all gamblers would love that.Sure most of us of the generation that have been born in 1990 and up will love that as we grew up with video games like Nintendo,Sega and Sony as kids and then moved to other games,mostly to casino providers where we are now Grin

and personally I would love to be immersed in the world of slot machines,their medieval themes would look so real and the level of adrenaline and emotions will be insane when we play slot machines with this new technology.

However there are about 80% of gamblers who do not give a damn about this technology as they are happy with how things are now.

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I don't think that this device can increase the gambling satisfaction a person experienced in gambling without integrating metaverse. Since this gadget works as a mobile phone set into a VR googles then there is nothing new experience it gives but a bragging right that they had an expensive VR gadget.

Quote from: ralle14 on June 08, 2023, 03:36:54 PM

It could encourage third party providers to make VR or AR games in the future, but I agree with the others this shouldn't have that much impact in the gambling space since they're not necessary as most of the casino games can be played without it. IMO they're more suitable for physical casinos than online so most gamblers won't have to spend so much money just to experience a different gameplay. I doubt it'll increase the case of gambling addictions when there's barely any need to get the new Apple device.

I think it will heighten the entertainment if metaverse is integrated on the apps that will run on the device. Else it will be just a normal experience which I also don't think will affect the gambling experience of a person that much. Thus, I also think that it won't have that much impact on the gambling addiction of a person.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 08, 2023, 01:06:22 PM

I think that there won't be any great implication, because Apple Vision Pro is a stupid product with a really stupid price. It is scandalous to pay 3500$ for a Vision pro.

In my opinion the first revolution will start when a cheap product with great technology will come out, and technology at the moment is "unripe".

Exactly, who will spend that much for a product like this, and I’m sure other brand will have a better version of this one who will offer it at a cheaper price. If this is Metaverse then they should make it cheaper so that many can afford and the trend will continue. I assume this product will not get much of a buyer, the price is too much for a less feature of this product, better to wait for more years and we will see this trend to be more cheaper.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on June 08, 2023, 10:47:36 AM

According to two YouTube videos that I watched after the Apple Vision Pro was released, they said people should take note that it can only last two hours after it is fully charged. Some people may want to track their gambling activities like in sport betting, this can not much be of any help. But it would be of good experience for casino users.

With what I learn about it too, only apple apps are still there for now. With time developers will have app there too. Likely it is using a different OS that is not iOS and macOS. But for gambling sites to have apps for it, it will take time. But if there is web browser, it can be used to access gambling site on it easily.

Another thing is that wearing this for long may not be that comfortable at all.

Also isolating yourself to do things on this thing may be kind of weird for people around you.

I havent watched it yet but this one turns out to be that just like on putting up your mobile phone into a VR googles or headset
https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/virtual-reality-1.3455804

It might be different but it would really be just a similar concept on which i dont see any difference at all. Adding up that addiction? I dont think so.
Gamblers would really be much preferring on using up those casual engagement on which they arent really that wearing up something.Although with this tech existing then it wont really be that
surprising that there would be those people who would really be loving to test it out and would really tend to see that it is something that giving that different vibe
or experience.

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It could encourage third party providers to make VR or AR games in the future, but I agree with the others this shouldn't have that much impact in the gambling space since they're not necessary as most of the casino games can be played without it. IMO they're more suitable for physical casinos than online so most gamblers won't have to spend so much money just to experience a different gameplay. I doubt it'll increase the case of gambling addictions when there's barely any need to get the new Apple device.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic. Gambling with this device would make it feel like you are in a casino. I am pretty sure the experience would be out of this world - the visuals, the sounds, the overall feel. On the other hand, it seems that it could be easy for a gambler to lose track of time while using the device because the immersive experience might make it difficult to see or be aware of the time, leading to a potential increase in gambling addiction. The odds against the player won't change, only the experience. Please share your thoughts on this matter.

A gambling addict doesn't need a casino environment and can be satisfied with online gambling but i wouldn't say the same for newcomers to gambling. Gambling at the casino is a very attractive environment for beginners. If you feel like a king there and the more you earn, the more likely you are to lose money.

The fact that VR and AR technologies keep the casino environment alive will of course start gambling for those who are new to gambling and those who are hesitant to go to the casino. Vision Pro will be ideal, especially for those who want to gamble at the casino and hesitate to go there. Vision pro has the potential to conquer not only the gambling industry but also many experience based industries.

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I think that there won't be any great implication, because Apple Vision Pro is a stupid product with a really stupid price. It is scandalous to pay 3500$ for a Vision pro.

In my opinion the first revolution will start when a cheap product with great technology will come out, and technology at the moment is "unripe".

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on June 08, 2023, 10:32:29 AM

I wonder what this means for the gambling industry, the gambling experience, and gambling addiction. I would like us to discuss this topic.

This is a stupidly overpriced product. But it may sell well due to Apple's branding. But I don't see any impact on the gambling industry unless someone wants to experience casino in metaverse. Usually seasoned gamblers will not want to experience this, rather they would like to focus on the game to make money.
For some newbie gamblers, who had never experienced casino, they might want to try this just to experience it. At the end of the day, entire metaverse concept is rubbish and it will eventually die down.

The Metaverse Casino is pretty interesting, but some of the Metaverse projects aren't just Apple Vision. Even before Apple Vision came out, there were a lot of cheaper VR products out there. Apple Vision is priced at $ 3500 and this is certainly quite expensive.
For those who want to experience the Metaverse presented by Apple, maybe price won't be a problem. But for some people spending that much money just for a device that is not very useful, they certainly won't do it. Of course there will be many similar devices that are cheaper.

That's what I was thinking when I checked the price of this gadget, not everyone can afford to buy one.
But that is true, with the launch of this Apple product, definitely, there will be similar products from other brands that will emerge fast.
So yes, once the public can afford this type of gadget, a lot will be hooked into this and gambling industry is no exception.
A lot of younger ones are already into the gaming industry today, so gambling industry is quite reachable by this generation.

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