Arbitrage on sportsbetting is possible? - page 2.

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Quote from: bearexin on November 05, 2019, 03:08:12 PM

Honestly, I am not sure the term arbitrage is right to use here. But, I am about to ask:

Will it be profitable if we bet on both the side of a sport but in different gambling house with different odds. Definitely one team will win so that I will get profits which will be covering the losses in another house? Given that I am betting same amount of money on both of the houses.

Let me explain with example:
2 gambling houses : House-A and House-B
2 sport team : Team-1 and Team-2

House-A is showing odd of 3.5 for the betting of, if Team-1 wins.
House-B is showing odd of 4.0 for the betting of, if Team-2 wins.

Now, I bet on Team-1 in House-A and on Team-2 in House-B for the amount of $10 each.

Team-1 wins.

I will lose $10 in House-B but I will get $30+ from House-A.

Now, my balance must have grown from $20 to $30+

Where or what I am missing out here or are you already doing this? Roll Eyes

Two-odds are technically possible. But what big money can you play with? The difference will be minimal. So, I think you can earn very small amount of money with this way.

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It is completely possible op, but there are risks involved as @tyKiwanuka mentioned. If you wish to reduce risks, you need to bet one half on Pinnacle and the other half on a soft-book.

Quote from: DarkStar_ on November 06, 2019, 12:58:06 AM

It's possible, but expecting to make more than maybe 2% best case is completely unrealistic today. 300% will give you a voided bet because clearly one side has a price error and leave you with one side of the "arbitrage" uncovered.

Have to disagree with the 2% unrealistic part since it is possible to find 2-3% regularly these days through sites like Bitedge etc.

Almost 3% right here : https://bitedge.com/sports-betting-tools-and-resources/crypto-betting-edge-alerts/

Apart from that, I agree with everything else.

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I think that this topic is not discussed as much as it should in a gamblers circle like this zone of the forum.Arbitrage in sport betting is possible but only if you do it with some friends and you talk all day with each other through social media which is easy nowadays.After all of you doing research on which game has different odds in different bookmakers you start playing each one placing a bet in a different bookmaker.

Like that African proverb says,if you want to go fast go alone but if you want to go far go together.

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Quote from: bearexin on November 05, 2019, 03:08:12 PM

House-A is showing odd of 3.5 for the betting of, if Team-1 wins.
House-B is showing odd of 4.0 for the betting of, if Team-2 wins.

Good luck with those odds. More accurate might be 1.99 and 2.03, for a solid 0.49% profit. It's possible, but expecting to make more than maybe 2% best case is completely unrealistic today. 300% will give you a voided bet because clearly one side has a price error and leave you with one side of the "arbitrage" uncovered.

Quote from: Avirunes on November 05, 2019, 10:31:39 PM

However I do have a question, regarding sportsbook not welcoming such bets- what if we are betting on on the selections on different sportsbook? I think that will be allowed right?

They'll still ban/limit you eventually if it's the type of the book to do so. Your bets will usually always have value and show that you are a consistent winner, and soft books don't want those players.

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It's pretty imaginitive to evem hope for these kinds of odds tbh. Dude, just look at various events happening in bettings and you'd see that such odds never happen, even across betting platforms. Plus, the losing sports betting site would surely go bankrupt if ever it continues such progress of setting odds. Its like your asking gambling sites to let everyone profit, which is not gonna happen. Its each man for their own here.

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Quote from: ralle14 on November 05, 2019, 05:19:51 PM

There's a few sports bettors here who did this way of betting before, they even had their own thread to share the bets with everyone but it didn't last that long because like what the guys above said it's difficult to look for both odds that are guaranteed to profit. Also I agree with tyKi said, some sportsbook doesn't welcome gamblers who does this bets I remember there was a new sportsbook that had good odds than most sportsbook and someone used their odds to make an arbitrage bet and his account was limited.

Yeah I recall DarkStar_ coming up with something like that and I admit it was not much profitable but free money is money so can't complain that.

However I do have a question, regarding sportsbook not welcoming such bets- what if we are betting on on the selections on different sportsbook? I think that will be allowed right?

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Quote from: bearexin on November 05, 2019, 03:08:12 PM

Where or what I am missing out here or are you already doing this? Roll Eyes

You don't miss anything if it will happen in reality.

You can't find such odds today between sportsbook to sportsbook.

But the door is always open for you to test it. Come back here and see what will be the result.

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There's a few sports bettors here who did this way of betting before, they even had their own thread to share the bets with everyone but it didn't last that long because like what the guys above said it's difficult to look for both odds that are guaranteed to profit. Also I agree with tyKi said, some sportsbook doesn't welcome gamblers who does this bets I remember there was a new sportsbook that had good odds than most sportsbook and someone used their odds to make an arbitrage bet and his account was limited.

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It will be very profitable if you do this. The problem is, you won't find these kind of odds Grin

Some 15 years ago you could earn good money with just playing surebets, but nowadays this is a pretty hard business.

With more or less centralized odds, the amount of surebets have gone down a lot. And the sure % you can make has also gone down.

Bookmakers don't like surebetters, so the longer you do this, the more problems will arise, e.g. bookmakers closing your account or limiting you to ridiculous low limits. And since most surebets are found between the non-asian bookmakers, you are in dire need of accounts with these bookmakers.

There is also some risk involved of losing most of your bank even though this way of betting is considered to be "sure". That is when either one bookmaker decides to void your bet out of the blue or when you bet on sports where there are different rules for the sports. For example in Tennis, if a player retires, one bookmaker might void your (winning) bet, while with the other bookmaker your bet stands and you lose your stake there.

There are lots of websites with surebets, if you google for it, here is one example: https://www.oddsportal.com/sure-bets/

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Good imagination Grin

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Do you think will it be that easy to get odds like that? I mean the real catch in your "strategy" must be the odds.

Usually people do predict in a same way (betting on strong team) because they do predict based of past performances. Still, people do go betting on other side (betting on weak side) due to personal reasons like "showing patriotism" or "my favorite player plays there so I want that underdog to win".

If 2 different group of people predict differently BUT again in different houses then you may go for "arbitrage" betting.

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Honestly, I am not sure the term arbitrage is right to use here. But, I am about to ask:

Will it be profitable if we bet on both the side of a sport but in different gambling house with different odds. Definitely one team will win so that I will get profits which will be covering the losses in another house? Given that I am betting same amount of money on both of the houses.

Let me explain with example:
2 gambling houses : House-A and House-B
2 sport team : Team-1 and Team-2

House-A is showing odd of 3.5 for the betting of, if Team-1 wins.
House-B is showing odd of 4.0 for the betting of, if Team-2 wins.

Now, I bet on Team-1 in House-A and on Team-2 in House-B for the amount of $10 each.

Team-1 wins.

I will lose $10 in House-B but I will get $30+ from House-A.

Now, my balance must have grown from $20 to $30+

Where or what I am missing out here or are you already doing this? Roll Eyes

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