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Quote from: alani123 on March 31, 2024, 08:22:59 AM

But as of today, there's 0 strategy involved in moneypot copycats. It's all just randomness and luck.

This is the truth that some may have a hard time understanding.

It's a game of luck because the house has the edge, it's not hard to analyze then our chances of winning as obviously in the long run it's the casino (house) which will be victorious. If we talk about being profitable, then it should not be a crash game, try sports betting or poker, I'm sure there are people who succeeded to be profitable on that type of gambling, so consider it as an inspiration to try to make your own journey too.

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Profitable for who? These games are profitable for the casino and only the casino.

Back when Moneypot was first created there used to be a feature where a "pot" was shared originating from past losses. So those making the highest multiplier bet would get most of the pot. There was indeed a mathematical strategy to even beat the house edge back then and it was very competitive. But this feature was eventually canceled because it was easy to abuse with boting and the huge competition to beat the house edge was also hurting investors, while very few actual players were playing the game with strategy in mind to beat the house edge.

But as of today, there's 0 strategy involved in moneypot copycats. It's all just randomness and luck.

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Coming from my experience I advise players to not take crash games seriously, no way you can make money out of it, it's delusional if you think that you can make money out of it, yes there are instances when you can hit a big jackpot because of the multiplier but it's so rare to happen.

I met some people who won huge in the crash game but the reward was just enough to recover their losses, their past losses were bigger than their rewards and since they continued to play the amount that they've lost will continue to continue.

Never treat gambling as a means to make money, don't make it your main motivation to gamble, just enjoy the game there will be an opportunity to make money along the way, and it will not come from the pressure to win.

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Quote from: bakasabo on March 31, 2024, 05:11:31 AM

OP, what exactly do you want to figure out? Does random really work or is there a magical strategy for luck? It is best to consider that all gambling games are not profitable, but entertaining. And it will be easier to gamble with a vision like that. I have player lots of crash rounds, and all I can say that it is all random. Dont try to find any kind of strategy or algorithm. All the games are random.

You said it well: gambling is not profitable, but can be entertaining. I hope all these young people the OP talks about are aware that crash games are not a "source of income", but games that can be expensive if not played responsibly.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on March 31, 2024, 05:13:01 AM

Profitable if you always cash out before it crashes, not profitable if you late to cash out. Wink

Quote from: wiss19 on March 31, 2024, 04:56:32 AM

In terms of winning chances, it's not always 10% but it varies on the multiplier that we choose. I don't think you can use a martingale system in crash games because AFAIK they don't have an autobet function and others that makes the system easy to use, and then the game needs waiting. Martingale is still a risky strategy and many gamblers don't recommend doing it.

Without autobet function, you can use martingale strategy. Just cash out when the multiplier reach 2x and double your deposit every time you lose, so you're already use martingale strategy in crash.

Martingale strategy is risky because you won't able to beat the house.

You're all tips are good but still we can't beat house because always It's going to be winner as I personally use crash many times with different strategies, and usually I have lost but as I have some profit then leaving is good but as my greediness encourage for the better profit I have loses and things been never came on positive side for me.
Few days back I was on one site with I have odds @2.5 and use martingale which works for me, and I am able to have good profit but as I go for the big and then quickly I lost all my funds and then have lesson just take some profit and leave is the best option instead of going to have big jackpot type amount is usually ended on loose and heart broken.

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Profitable if you always cash out before it crashes, not profitable if you late to cash out. Wink

Quote from: wiss19 on March 31, 2024, 04:56:32 AM

In terms of winning chances, it's not always 10% but it varies on the multiplier that we choose. I don't think you can use a martingale system in crash games because AFAIK they don't have an autobet function and others that makes the system easy to use, and then the game needs waiting. Martingale is still a risky strategy and many gamblers don't recommend doing it.

Without autobet function, you can use martingale strategy. Just cash out when the multiplier reach 2x and double your deposit every time you lose, so you're already use martingale strategy in crash.

Martingale strategy is risky because you won't able to beat the house.

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OP, what exactly do you want to figure out? Does random really work or is there a magical strategy for luck? It is best to consider that all gambling games are not profitable, but entertaining. And it will be easier to gamble with a vision like that. I have player lots of crash rounds, and all I can say that it is all random. Dont try to find any kind of strategy or algorithm. All the games are random.

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The main reason on why we keep playing games in the casino is because it gives us an entertainment. Winning is only just a bonus here and can come if we are lucky. There is nothing interesting in what you have said there but what is more interesting is when a person gambles it all in the casino games. Crash games are random games that even the owners don't have access to their possible outcomes.

In terms of winning chances, it's not always 10% but it varies on the multiplier that we choose. I don't think you can use a martingale system in crash games because AFAIK they don't have an autobet function and others that makes the system easy to use, and then the game needs waiting. Martingale is still a risky strategy and many gamblers don't recommend doing it.

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Is crash game or any other gambling game profitable? There 2 answers for this question, first is YES it is profitable when you are winning and second is NO, it is not profitable when you are losing

Talking about your story, it is quite normal when most gamblers (no matter their background are), when they are jumped into gambling then they do not care much about the low winning probability because it is what gambling is. As long as there is a chance to win (although small only) then they will do it for their own reason. Lastly, about martingale strategy, it is the most used strategy by gamblers because they think that by doubling bet after loss will make them win eventually but most of them do not realize that there is also a chance to face so long losing streak that will eat their balance.

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I don't know man, I feel like any gambling game out there, if you're not the house, it's not really profitable because you risk money with a small chance of winning it back, that's gambling for you and no matter how much copium we all inhale just to make justifications that our gambling habits are somewhat making us a profit, it's still gambling and we would still lose more even if we experience some wins. That's why gambling businesses are regulated and licenses are difficult to be acquired, it's a really profitable way to make money because it's the people that are willingly losing their money in your casino, no advertising needed, gamblers will come no matter what.

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There are no bookmakers in crash games. These are random games which are completely based on luck. There are no odds to be given whatsoever. What remains though is the house edge.

So it is absurd to try to make regular money out of it. If you are lucky and you stay with the game, sooner or later you will suffer a loss and the house edge will prevail over your luck. Your luck isn't permanent but the house edge will always be there in every game.

It seems they have a poor choice of hobby.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 25, 2024, 12:33:25 PM

You talk about martingale strategy. The truth is that it is best to use martingale in just casino games like roulettes, blackjack, baccarat, dice and others like that with at least 2 to 3 odds with almost similar certainty of wining. Like in 2 odds, having chance of 40 to 50% while inn3 odds, having a chance of 30 to 33% of winning. It should not be used with lower odds or crash games.

Is crash game profitable? Is gambling profitable itself? No. Just that different games and matches have different risks. If you like crash games, why not go for it and spend little but be expecting losses more than profit.

Oh! I don't know what you're talking about but it's not Martingale, no matter what you game, return is 2:1, it's that simple any other percentage is useless. It's as simple as doubling the bet. Those percentages mentioned are an error/wrong.

Crash at bc.game you can see the different ways to analyze the WC.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on March 26, 2024, 02:40:29 PM

Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on March 25, 2024, 12:26:31 PM

A lot of youths in Africa are into aviator and a lot of other crash games... what's interesting is that 90 percent of these young people have skills, jobs and sources of income,..why are we playing these games when the odds are constantly against us.
People come up with patterns trying to understand the algorithm of these games but from my experience these games have no pattern
They are been controlled by the bookmakers, out of a 100 percent the chances of winning is 10 percent
After winning more than 4 times In a row just know that losses is bound to happen even if you don't lose that same day
Crash games are not going to give you that extra source of income you are looking for.
Using the martingale system in these games is quite risky because sometimes you might lose 20 times in a row
And continuing in this system will make you an addict,, protect your financial life at all cost, stake what you can afford to lose and be disciplined

The opinion you have so given is the reason it is called gambling. It is not certain that you must win and like you said, the probability of winning is highly against the gambler. This does not mean people should abstain completely from gambling because people still win and that is how the business is sustained. One thing about gambling is that the higher the risk the higher the odds such that a single big win will cover several months of losing and possibly make the gambler rich. If you consider the promises such games hold, you will see that the risk is worth taking.

I think in my opinion any gambling is not profitable, in a sense that profitable means that you can constantly win or earn money from it, but in gambling its not; you are rarely to win unless you are a very lucky person, but in general I don't consider gambling games as profitable, maybe as a lucky wealth, meaning you could win in gambling yes, and the amount you can win is based on what risk you put it in; by winning you could change your life. But the thing is, is it going to happen to all of us or to simply anyone believing and hoping that they might win a jackpot? I think not. There's no guaranteed in gambling so don't treat or say that is profitable because it is not, maybe for me I don't treat it that way but for sure many wil disagree with my statement.

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Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on March 25, 2024, 12:26:31 PM

A lot of youths in Africa are into aviator and a lot of other crash games... what's interesting is that 90 percent of these young people have skills, jobs and sources of income,..why are we playing these games when the odds are constantly against us.
People come up with patterns trying to understand the algorithm of these games but from my experience these games have no pattern
They are been controlled by the bookmakers, out of a 100 percent the chances of winning is 10 percent
After winning more than 4 times In a row just know that losses is bound to happen even if you don't lose that same day
Crash games are not going to give you that extra source of income you are looking for.
Using the martingale system in these games is quite risky because sometimes you might lose 20 times in a row
And continuing in this system will make you an addict,, protect your financial life at all cost, stake what you can afford to lose and be disciplined

The opinion you have so given is the reason it is called gambling. It is not certain that you must win and like you said, the probability of winning is highly against the gambler. This does not mean people should abstain completely from gambling because people still win and that is how the business is sustained. One thing about gambling is that the higher the risk the higher the odds such that a single big win will cover several months of losing and possibly make the gambler rich. If you consider the promises such games hold, you will see that the risk is worth taking.

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in the past I carried out an interesting research on this type of game for a casino...
I believe that the novelty of the game, combined with the fact that it is possible to receive large rewards based on the odds chosen, makes the game very popular.
but it's still a casino game. any illusion of "big win" is related to risk and so on ...
there is the "house edge" advantage for bookmaker. I don't think anything else needs to be said.
Just a note for OP I don't understand where the statistic "after 4 wins then there is a defeat" comes from.
At what level of risk? Without this data any calculation is practically useless.

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Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on March 25, 2024, 12:26:31 PM

A lot of youths in Africa are into aviator and a lot of other crash games... what's interesting is that 90 percent of these young people have skills, jobs and sources of income,..why are we playing these games when the odds are constantly against us.
People come up with patterns trying to understand the algorithm of these games but from my experience these games have no pattern
They are been controlled by the bookmakers, out of a 100 percent the chances of winning is 10 percent
After winning more than 4 times In a row just know that losses is bound to happen even if you don't lose that same day
Crash games are not going to give you that extra source of income you are looking for.
Using the martingale system in these games is quite risky because sometimes you might lose 20 times in a row
And continuing in this system will make you an addict,, protect your financial life at all cost, stake what you can afford to lose and be disciplined

Martingale strategy for a luck based games? Good luck with that.. Sooner or later you would really be able to find for yourself busted up on doing crash games on which we know that same as dice these kind of games
doesnt really have any pattern when it comes on when you would really be winning. There's no patter that you can be able to form because if there's one then for sure people would be exploiting it
and casinos would really go bankrupt. One of the main reasons on why gambling business is profitable due to this kind of reason on which people are really that a fan on trying out to find on
something which we know that its not something possible when it comes to luck based games.

Better not to make yourself having those kind of chasing some patterns because sooner or later you will just notice out that you would be losing up more rather than on
winning up. These games are really giving on that kind of impulse feeling due to instant results but be careful in dealing with those emotions because this is something that cant really
be handled out if you do make yourself that too impulsive.

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Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on March 25, 2024, 12:26:31 PM

A lot of youths in Africa are into aviator and a lot of other crash games... what's interesting is that 90 percent of these young people have skills, jobs and sources of income,..why are we playing these games when the odds are constantly against us.
People come up with patterns trying to understand the algorithm of these games but from my experience these games have no pattern
They are been controlled by the bookmakers, out of a 100 percent the chances of winning is 10 percent
After winning more than 4 times In a row just know that losses is bound to happen even if you don't lose that same day
Crash games are not going to give you that extra source of income you are looking for.
Using the martingale system in these games is quite risky because sometimes you might lose 20 times in a row
And continuing in this system will make you an addict,, protect your financial life at all cost, stake what you can afford to lose and be disciplined

You might be right but I may say that you just say based on your own experience, gamble is always about luck I agreed on that but when you say a gambler can not win more than 4 times a roll I think you are mistaken.
Gambler can win up to 20 times when luck is with him, we don't know the time luck nocks on our door that's why most atimes we lose more than we are supposed to lose. Some people thinks that when they win today tomorrow they gamble that same time and with that same odds. There is nothing that's not always against everyone in Gamble, both the odds and the games are always against us, we can see that when we lose, today this odd might win for us but tomorrow or that's same day the same odd and the same pattern will not longer work for us the way we wanted.
Am not a fan of 1 particular pattern, I always like changing my pattern of gambling that's why today if this one didn't work for me I change it to another and it always helps.

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Quote from: moneystery on March 26, 2024, 10:05:06 AM

whatever games the casino provides will not benefit the players. because from the start the casino designed the game using odds that were in the casino's favor. no matter how hard players try to look for patterns, tricks, etc., it will be useless because from the start it is the casino that will benefit.

In the long process, no one will benefit but to say that they really have no benefit at all. Then, there will be no winners and there will be no people that are happy with their achievements when they gamble. But it's true that gambling games are designed with the odds of letting the casino win at most times but there is a slight benefit from the players. We don't know if it's just only a matter of financial, emotional or any other aspects that we're seeing it as beneficial to the players.

Quote from: moneystery on March 26, 2024, 10:05:06 AM

the only games that are profitable for players are skill-based games, such as poker or cards, where players can show their skills, and that's it. apart from that, gambling games will benefit the casino.

I think that they're the same but you mean about the benefit is that the chance of winning is greater with these skill based games than of those that are purely luck based games. But I agree that these skill based games like sports betting are good ways for someone to test his skills. As for cards, it also includes some luck though because you can't predict what cards that will come to you but as a skilled card player, you know how to bluff and do some emotional tricks against the other tables.

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I also believe it is critical to be mindful of the possibility for obsession with these games. Crash games may be quite addicting, and it's easy to become engrossed by the thrill and possibility for enormous rewards. If you find yourself devoting more time and money to these games than you expected, it may be time to take a break and reconsider your relationship with them. It's difficult to stop the pattern of addiction, but there are options offered to assist. One approach is to speak with a clinician or counsellor about your gambling tendencies. An additional option is to join a support group for those who are battling with problem gambling. Although gambling dependency is a serious issue, it is possible to overcome it with the right support.

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Quote from: Sir_Garry55 on March 25, 2024, 12:26:31 PM

Crash games are not going to give you that extra source of income you are looking for.
Using the martingale system in these games is quite risky because sometimes you might lose 20 times in a row
And continuing in this system will make you an addict,, protect your financial life at all cost, stake what you can afford to lose and be disciplined

Well, no gambling game could give you such feat of being a good source of income. Gambling will always be a game of chance and with that, there will always be a tendency for you to lose and as well all know it happens often. I came across with crash games but I never had my interest into it. Many people are into crash games because of big multipliers however, money is just too fast in this game and in the long run, I cannot see someone who bets much and those who will use martingale strategy, will be winning in the long run unless they are lucky enough to do so. Discipline with bets will indeed help you prolong your bankroll but situation won't chage if you'd be continuously losing. Those who enjoys it has valid feelings; maybe they have a bigger tisk tolerance than those who are not into crash games. At the end of the day it is our bankroll and preference of gambling in general, which will complete our gambling experience.

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