Topic: Are Etherum and Emunie scamcoins? - page 6. (Read 9743 times)

How so? I quoted a post made on a public forum. It showed Dans name and his words. Both are already in the public realm.

No, the chat posted above is not from any public forum. It's from the private founders skype group. It shows that the poster (MrV) has no principles whatsoever, and that we should be glad that he left eMunie, among with people defending him. It's like we had the NSA directly within our group. Any points you may have had against Visin (but never gave any proof to the accusations), are now void anyway.

1: I haven't posted anything from a private conversation. I believe everything above was posted in a public forum.

5: Dan knows my identity. Posting in a public forum with your real name is foolish in my opinion.

mrVegas or mrVegad (whichever it is in your attempt to hide "your" identity) as well as eid for cross-posting the discussion:

I'm utterly shocked and appalled at your apparent lack of any ethical or moral character.  To post the above discussions that were made in a private environment speaks volumes about you as a person.   To list the names of those that wish to remain anonymous implies you should consider a position at the NSA.  I’m sure they would welcome your lack of integrity with open arms.   

Frankly, I should not be surprised by your behavior above as you previously attempted to badger me incessantly on another topic to “tell me their names” within the beta chat box.  Thankfully, my integrity and moral compass is above such reproach.  I will unquestionably maintain the anonymity of ANYONE who wishes to remain so (including your identity) as this is only a decision each person can make on their own.  This, unfortunately, is not something you can apparently comprehend.

Until such time as you yourself come “out from the shadows” of anonymity and post your true name and relevant/verifiable identification I will consider you to be nothing more than a coward. 

And you consider yourself an American?  You should be ashamed of yourself.

mrVegas or mrVegad (whichever it is in your attempt to hide "your" identity) as well as eid for cross-posting the discussion:

I'm utterly shocked and appalled at your apparent lack of any ethical or moral character.  To post the above discussions that were made in a private environment speaks volumes about you as a person.   To list the names of those that wish to remain anonymous implies you should consider a position at the NSA.  I’m sure they would welcome your lack of integrity with open arms.   

Frankly, I should not be surprised by your behavior above as you previously attempted to badger me incessantly on another topic to “tell me their names” within the beta chat box.  Thankfully, my integrity and moral compass is above such reproach.  I will unquestionably maintain the anonymity of ANYONE who wishes to remain so (including your identity) as this is only a decision each person can make on their own.  This, unfortunately, is not something you can apparently comprehend.

Until such time as you yourself come “out from the shadows” of anonymity and post your true name and relevant/verifiable identification I will consider you to be nothing more than a coward. 

And you consider yourself an American?  You should be ashamed of yourself.

mrVegas or mrVegad (whichever it is in your attempt to hide "your" identity) as well as eid for cross-posting the discussion:

I'm utterly shocked and appalled at your apparent lack of any ethical or moral character.  To post the above discussions that were made in a private environment speaks volumes about you as a person.   To list the names of those that wish to remain anonymous implies you should consider a position at the NSA.  I’m sure they would welcome your lack of integrity with open arms.  

Frankly, I should not be surprised by your behavior above as you previously attempted to badger me incessantly on another topic to “tell me their names” within the beta chat box.  Thankfully, my integrity and moral compass is above such reproach.  I will unquestionably maintain the anonymity of ANYONE who wishes to remain so (including your identity) as this is only a decision each person can make on their own.  This, unfortunately, is not something you can apparently comprehend.

Until such time as you yourself come “out from the shadows” of anonymity and post your true name and relevant/verifiable identification I will consider you to be nothing more than a coward.  

And you consider yourself an American?  You should be ashamed of yourself.

[7:26:53 PM] Dan Hughes - eMunie: Steg job public wont care about centralization anyway, and thats our real market, because its the only market large enough to effect real change

Well the details are dynamic, they are changing as we speak.
This is the beauty of it all, it isn't a state that someone came up with a theoretical idea and went all in (as cool as it might be), every idea is tested, every option is valued - and in the end the best is taken.

So many technical aspects of the client have changed and might still change, the investment you make it the same as you make in any other coin - based on if you believe this can and will be a big thing.
No one makes you buy into this coin, this is 100% optional and there will be an option to get coins via hatching (similar to mining).

I think if you truly compare eMunie to any other coin (besides bitcoin), you will see that even prior launch, the efforts gone into development are huge - whilst other coins with over $50M in market cap don't have anything that differentiates them from the rest (besides block time / reward size).

Well the details are dynamic, they are changing as we speak.

This is the beauty of it all, it isn't a state that someone came up with a theoretical idea and went all in (as cool as it might be), every idea is tested, every option is valued - and in the end the best is taken.

So many technical aspects of the client have changed and might still change, the investment you make it the same as you make in any other coin - based on if you believe this can and will be a big thing.

I think if you truly compare eMunie to any other coin (besides bitcoin), you will see that even prior launch, the efforts gone into development are huge - whilst other coins with over $50M in market cap don't have anything that differentiates them from the rest (besides block time / reward size).

of course both are scams

That's ridiculous with the IPO, canceled IPO, and fairly disingenuous explanation of said cancellation and new IPO on the horizon. However, I don't think that eMunie is a scam. I don't think either outright intend to be, the question is whether or not people might feel cheated afterwards.

The danger I see with eMunie is that very little information on the mechanical details has been released as far as I can tell, though I haven't gone sifting through the entire forum. eMunie might not be the protocol that some people imagine it to be. Regardless, I think the likelihood of it doing well for some time may be high. However, the closer the IPO gets (is there a new date set yet?) without the technical details of the protocol being explained in a legible format should raise the wariness of investors. It's investing into a black box.

Ethereum on the other hand has been more open about the details, however there is very little in code (afaik) and they are/were asking for a ridiculous amount of money to make a protocol that has a lot of buzzwords that sound like cool ideas, but will they have a real near-term impact? My intuition is doubtful on that. It doesn't help that there is not just the IPO, but also setting their organization up with control of a large percentage of the currency. I think the risk of people feeling cheated by Ethereum is much higher.