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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 29, 2024, 02:34:58 AM

You can defined it your way but my interest is to understand this>>> Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

In any kind of activity or sports which involves two opposite team, where at the end of such activity or sport, only one team is supposed to win or the both team draws, such kinds of activity or game can be used for gambling. If such activities gave you the opportunity to predict between the both team which will win, it is gambling and that's to say yes to your question.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 29, 2024, 09:12:30 PM

If you are watching a sports match and then you and your friends are taking the opposite teams and whoever loses will pay the lunch, that's probably not gambling.

If two people bet and the loser will pay for launch, that is fun but it is gambling. This is how gambling should be. It should not be a way to look for money but to bet for fun. This is gambling that you explained and not the other way around.

Quote from: arjunmujay on January 30, 2024, 03:23:25 AM

I don't think it's gambling, because it involves one person.
It's different if you're watching a match with friends, then both people eat together and agree that the loser will pay for the food from the person who wins too, that's a gambling activity even if you don't give money directly.

Like I said, it is gambling. Food is something that has value and you pay money to get the food. That makes it gambling. If no money is involved, it is not gambling. In this case, food is the money and it is gambling.

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Once you use your money in any sporting stuff with mindset of getting something back, then such process is refer to as gambling, we can say is not gambling when nothing is attached and you are just a spectator, what's even stake, using your money to stake and expecting to get double, triple or more folds of your funds, no matter how we try to twist it, every event or functions that's is involved with staking your money is pure gambling in really sense because if you are to your stake, it will decrease or depreciate as investments do, you will lose all the funds, no one will be remaining, so no matter how see it or perceive to be, stake remains gambling.

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Quote from: arjunmujay on January 30, 2024, 03:23:25 AM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 29, 2024, 09:12:30 PM

Even if you gamble for fun or for chasing profits, that's still gambling. What counts is that you are betting money and expects more money if you win. That's perhaps the main thing about gambling. So whether the way to play that is through a game of cards or through a game of dice or by betting through sports matches doesn't matter. The point is that you are gambling.

If you are watching a sports match and then you and your friends are taking the opposite teams and whoever loses will pay the lunch, that's probably not gambling.

I don't think it's gambling, because it involves one person.

What is not gambling? Gambling is not about how many players are playing. It doesn't mean that since only 1 is playing, it is not gambling. It also doesn't follow that since 2, 3, 4, 10, etc players are playing, it is gambling.

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It's different if you're watching a match with friends, then both people eat together and agree that the loser will pay for the food from the person who wins too, that's a gambling activity even if you don't give money directly.

I don't think it is gambling. Nobody is betting. Nobody earns money from that bet. So that is not gambling. The things that make a game or a dare gambling are not there. Otherwise friends could be charged with illegal gambling simply because one bought a box of pizza for his friends for siding with a losing team.

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If someone asks you if sports games or other competitive activities with prizes are games, you can't just say yes or no. The risks and rewards of sports and gaming are similar, but people approach them in different ways. You need to be skilled, plan, and play fair to win in sports. Their worth depends on how well the teams or players do. Bets on sports events are both a gamble and a risk of losing money. Some people bet on how the game will end to try to win money. Today, a lot of people bet on sports, so it can be tough to tell the difference between games and sports. Betting on outcomes you don't know is more like gaming than sports most of the time.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on January 29, 2024, 09:12:30 PM

Even if you gamble for fun or for chasing profits, that's still gambling. What counts is that you are betting money and expects more money if you win. That's perhaps the main thing about gambling. So whether the way to play that is through a game of cards or through a game of dice or by betting through sports matches doesn't matter. The point is that you are gambling.

If you are watching a sports match and then you and your friends are taking the opposite teams and whoever loses will pay the lunch, that's probably not gambling.

I don't think it's gambling, because it involves one person.
It's different if you're watching a match with friends, then both people eat together and agree that the loser will pay for the food from the person who wins too, that's a gambling activity even if you don't give money directly.

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Even if you gamble for fun or for chasing profits, that's still gambling. What counts is that you are betting money and expects more money if you win. That's perhaps the main thing about gambling. So whether the way to play that is through a game of cards or through a game of dice or by betting through sports matches doesn't matter. The point is that you are gambling.

If you are watching a sports match and then you and your friends are taking the opposite teams and whoever loses will pay the lunch, that's probably not gambling.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 29, 2024, 02:34:58 AM

Me: Gambling is a game of chances to winning or loosing where stakes are involved. It is an activity of personal desires to decide if you derives chasing after profits or catching funs.

However you tends to define gambling, it would be incomplete if stakes, risks and challenging activities (competitions) are not mentioned.

You can defined it your way but my interest is to understand this>>> Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

So let's look on the dictionary for an exact definition of what gambling is

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Gambling, the betting or staking of something of value, with the consciousness of risk and hope of gain, on the outcome of a game, a contest, or an uncertain event whose result may be determined by chance or accident or have an unexpected result because of the bettor’s miscalculation.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/gambling

So yes when the activities or sporting events have money and something valuable is involved it can be considered gambling so sports can be considered gambling to some extent, based on the definition of a dictionary but sports enthusiasts do not attach gambling to it, they want to see the performance level, skills, and strategy employed by the athlete, teams, and fighters so they can participate without the involvement of money.

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Quote from: MainIbem on January 29, 2024, 03:03:52 PM

Hey any activity that brought two or more people together that involves staking or money is gambling, gambling can only take place if Money is involved otherwise it's not called gambling rather gaming. Gaming is a thing to play to keep you busy or ease yourself from being bored or depressed if you are playing games on your phone that is not gambling and if you are two or more playing games without staking money or staking anything is still called gaming so, gaming is what one or two persons does to keep themselves busy without involving money.

It's true what you said, if two or more people play a game and the one who wins will get the amount of money they bet according to the agreement they have set before playing and if the game being played does not involve betting, the winner doesn't get anything and the loser doesn't get anything either. don't get any punishment then it's right just to fill their free time when they have free time and don't know what to do so they just play to fill their free time.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 29, 2024, 02:38:54 AM

If there is no money involved, it is not gambling. If there is money involved, it is called gambling.

I have seen two local football teams betting with funds that whichever team that wins the match at the final rounds wins as a champion 🏆 of the game and so, they wins the bet (stakes) as an award.
In here, does that also implies gambling?

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Well you could say that. Since you are staking something to receive something, you are essentially 'gambling' to make sure that your staked amount isn't lost at all. If there isn't anything that can be lost to whatever you'll be doing, then I wouldn't call it as gambling but rather as free money, though of course that doesn't happen at all Grin

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Gambling comes from various things, simply put, we bet in various fields using money as a entertainment prize and this includes gambling, but this is gambling at a level that is not sustainable. But on the other hand, if someone bets without using money or is just joking, it will not be called gambling. Gambling arises from both parties determining their guarantees in every aspect they undertake.

For that reason, I think what you have said is purely called gambling. Whether in football or other betting, if money becomes a prize, of course it will be called gambling. Because gambling is always synonymous with money and whatever they bet on if they don't risk money then it won't be called gambling.

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Gambling will always involve stakes and competing with the house, or opponent if it's a game that has to do with poker.

Quote from: EluguHcman on January 29, 2024, 02:34:58 AM

Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

It is hard to understand the team you're talking about in particular but if you're talking about the casino team. To make the game fair and to prevent any sort of manipulation the casino team is not allowed to gamble on their platform so the gambling is between you and the game provider. Therefore it is all competition activities are handled by the casino. Is like owning a vehicle company and having a deal with battery battery-making company.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 29, 2024, 02:34:58 AM

You can defined it your way but my interest is to understand this>>> Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

In agreement to what other users have said already, YES! is the answer to your question.

Gambling can be defined in different ways, with different words, which still mean the same thing. That's to say, gambling just means the same thing, no matter how it is defined.

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An activity characterized by a balance between winning and losing that is governed by a mixture of skill and chance, usually with money wagered on the outcome.

I got that definition of gambling from an English-version-dictionary (Android-version) and the definition is selfexplanatory.

For example, if there is a fight between two students in a school and someone says that he or she is placing a bet that „student A“ will win the fight and another person also says that he or she is placing a money bet that „student B“ will win the fight, that is just a typical example of gambling. You can also set as many examples as you want, using other scenarios. As long as money is being staked and the end result would be a win or lose, that is just gambling.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 29, 2024, 02:34:58 AM

Me: Gambling is a game of chances to winning or loosing where stakes are involved. It is an activity of personal desires to decide if you derives chasing after profits or catching funs.

However you tends to define gambling, it would be incomplete if stakes, risks and challenging activities (competitions) are not mentioned.

You can defined it your way but my interest is to understand this>>> Are sports games or related competitive activities which stakes are involved between both sides or teams also gambling?
Remember, there would be a winner to be rewarded and a looser to lost the stakes.

Anything that involves staking an amount of money is gambling, this may be in sports, politics or any or discussion or arguments as long as money is being involved it's called gambling because we are staking on what we are making argument or discussion on, that stake is what makes the difference, one doesn't have to go to the casino house before he knows he's gambling, if we can stake money on anything we have with others then we have just gambled.

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Quote from: EluguHcman on January 29, 2024, 02:34:58 AM

Me: Gambling is a game of chances to winning or loosing where stakes are involved. It is an activity of personal desires to decide if you derives chasing after profits or catching funs.

Gambling is when we risk something we have to gain more... gambling is when we risk what we have to gain something else more valuable. So we go to work and we risk our bodies & minds to make money? Don't you think it's gambling? For me, it is... because we can make more money, but we can lose something else more valuable in that process.

So life is a game of chances if we look at it carefully. You can win some girl or not? You need to make a move and risk something, are you ready to do it or not? You can get something or you can lose everything... Life is one big gambling game, we either play it and make chances for us or we quit.

If we don't play/risk, we don't have a chance to win anything. If we try it we have a chance. Simple as that.

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Quote from: uneng on January 29, 2024, 12:20:51 PM

Every event we don't have 100% assurance about their results can be bet on, and this very act is considered gambling.

This is the philosophy behind gambling. Gambling is a money venture. An investment for the bookies. If it is so 100% that you will win, then bookies will not put it up for gambling but the fact that there is a possibility of losing and then the bookies profiting is what makes it gambling. It is a 50/50 game. A win for the gamer is a loss for the bookie and a loss to the gamer is a win for the gamer. So at every point, someone is winning and the other is losing. Gambling is never a win-win.

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Hey any activity that brought two or more people together that involves staking or money is gambling, gambling can only take place if Money is involved otherwise it's not called gambling rather gaming. Gaming is a thing to play to keep you busy or ease yourself from being bored or depressed if you are playing games on your phone that is not gambling and if you are two or more playing games without staking money or staking anything is still called gaming so, gaming is what one or two persons does to keep themselves busy without involving money.

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As long as stakes are there then it is gambling. If there are no bets involved, you wouldn't call it a gamble but when using this term and defining your decision like it is all what you've got and you have taken a risk, then it is a gamble.

So, the common use of it is when we're placing bets to any sporting activities and in return, we've got a potential to win and of course, losing is there too.

Come to think of it when you do not put any bet and just play sports, there's no gambling activity involved and it is not the same.

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Quote from: Jaycoinz on January 29, 2024, 01:45:54 PM

Quote from: Oshosondy on January 29, 2024, 02:38:54 AM

So far you stake your money, it is gambling. In fact, that is what that makes it to be called gambling. Gambling means you are risking your money on betting. Gambling has been existing since the old age when there are no casinos and bookies.

If there is no money involved, it is not gambling. If there is money involved, it is called gambling.

Yeah I think I have even something like this before as a discussion topic. I am also skeptical about this idea of anything that money is stake as gambling but after the whole argument I seem the point from where others were going and I now understood so I just have this question about this thought which is what if me and spouse put money that which person is gonna actually be the first to finish eating something, can this also be classified as gambling.

If it will have a reward for who will be finishing it first and punishment to the one who will finish it late then I think it caan be counted as gambling. You gain or lose something from an argument, contrasting perspective, predictions, assumptions, and such then that's gambling. It's concept is simply and will be more confusing if it would be associated with investments because risk is always present and there is also a tendency for either profit or loss, however investment is purely involving money and cannot be done with just agreements alone.

But with normal competitions without staking anything and just a matter of gaining or not losing anything then I guess it won't be considered. It will depend on the approach; I cannot call perhaps a tournament which will require joining fees and getting a chance to win all of the prize pool gambling. Maybe it is depending on the orientation. If the joining fee of every tem or player will be all going to prize pool then that would be gambling; winner takes all. But with instances wherein joining fees would be used to pay the staff or organizers of the event, and that prize pool will be coming from a sponsor, then that would be more of a tournament. Am I making the right analogy?

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